Is LSSJ Its own form?

[HybridSaiyan]

Is the Legendery Super Saiyan its own form? How strong do you think Broly could have gotten if he wasn't killed? Would his power just keep increasing? It's kind of scary that he has an endless supply of energy. When he transforms i noticed his cheeks and eyes rip apart. I'm sure the guy could rival Beerus in the end. Man, you know the fights get intense with Broly involved.

[VegettoEX]

It's given its own separate name (as you've used: "Legendary Super Saiyan"), and the various guidebooks do break it out as its own separate form. Daizenshuu 6 describes it as, "Perhaps this instinct-driven form is the true Super Saiyan, which the legend says will 'love destruction and slaughter'".

Is the endless supply of energy a dub thing? Doesn't he just say at one particular point that his energy is overflowing?

[HybridSaiyan]

It's given its own separate name (as you've used: "Legendary Super Saiyan"), and the various guidebooks do break it out as its own separate form. Daizenshuu 6 describes it as, "Perhaps this instinct-driven form is the true Super Saiyan, which the legend says will 'love destruction and slaughter'".

Is the endless supply of energy a dub thing? Doesn't he just say at one particular point that his energy is overflowing?

He definitely fits into that role of "destruction and slaughter" He's everything you'd want from a heartless psycho killing machine. He even titles himself as a devil.

I got that information from the Dragon Ball Wiki. Not sure if it's reliable or not because you see Broly get slightly fatigued nearing the end of the 8th Movie.

[yamu]

In every piece of material I've seen, LSSJ is described as if it is a unique form. The true "Legend" of the Super Saiyan, the one that appears once every thousand years or whatever the number was. It's interesting because it calls into question whether the Z Fighter Saiyans are true Super Saiyans, or a watered down version of the form.

[HybridSaiyan]

In every piece of material I've seen, LSSJ is described as if it is a unique form. The true "Legend" of the Super Saiyan, the one that appears once every thousand years or whatever the number was. It's interesting because it calls into question whether the Z Fighter Saiyans are true Super Saiyans, or a watered down version of the form.

I do believe the Saiyan Z-fighters are still Super Saiyans however i'm sure this was the real Legendary Super Saiyan that appears every thousand of years as you've said. I mean, think about it. All the remaining saiyans and hybrids can pretty much turn super saiyan easily. You'll never see another Saiyan transformation like Broly. I'm sure he's the true Saiyan of Legend. He did effortlessly take out 4 Super Saiyans aha.

[dbgtFO]

I got that information from the Dragon Ball Wiki. Not sure if it's reliable or not because you see Broly get slightly fatigued nearing the end of the 8th Movie.

The infinitele rising energy/infinite energy is just a dub thing as VegettoEX suggested, but I don't recall Broly looking particularly fatigued at any point in movie 8, only annoyance at Goku for getting back up again and again.

[rereboy]

Is the endless supply of energy a dub thing? Doesn't he just say at one particular point that his energy is overflowing?

After defeating the gang, Broly, for no reason, while he was just floating in the air and no enemy in sight, feels his power rising, almost to a painful level, and he relieves himself by letting loose some of that power. Why that happens it's never explained, and some fans have theorized that he might just naturally have a rising Ki while in LSSJ, which would explain the scene.

[HybridSaiyan]

I got that information from the Dragon Ball Wiki. Not sure if it's reliable or not because you see Broly get slightly fatigued nearing the end of the 8th Movie.

The infinitele rising energy/infinite energy is just a dub thing as VegettoEX suggested, but I don't recall Broly looking particularly fatigued at any point in movie 8, only annoyance at Goku for getting back up again and again.

Maybe I'm wrong then. I just had a little image in my head of Broly breathing slightly more as if he was tired.
Also does anyone know why his hair was more blonde in the 10th movie? Maybe because he was a regular Super Saiyan before he transformed?

[dbgtFO]

I got that information from the Dragon Ball Wiki. Not sure if it's reliable or not because you see Broly get slightly fatigued nearing the end of the 8th Movie.

The infinitele rising energy/infinite energy is just a dub thing as VegettoEX suggested, but I don't recall Broly looking particularly fatigued at any point in movie 8, only annoyance at Goku for getting back up again and again.

Maybe I'm wrong then. I just had a little image in my head of Broly breathing slightly more as if he was tired.
Also does anyone know why his hair was more blonde in the 10th movie? Maybe because he was a regular Super Saiyan before he transformed?

Sadly it never got an official explanation. The most common fan explanation is that Paragus' mind controlling device, which emits a green energy, caused that effect in movie 8 and still lingered even, when Broly was LSS.
After spending 7 years without that influence, the effect naturally disappeared too.

Of course in newer material, Broly's hair color couldn't be greener!

[HybridSaiyan]

Sadly it never got an official explanation. The most common fan explanation is that Paragus' mind controlling device, which emits a green energy, caused that effect in movie 8 and still lingered even, when Broly was LSS.
After spending 7 years without that influence, the effect naturally disappeared too.

Of course in newer material, Broly's hair color couldn't be greener!

That's a really good theory and it actually makes a lot of sense. I can't believe I never thought of that sooner. Paragus' mind control device did alter the change in his aura.

Also I found the scene where broly gets fatigued or if you want to call it that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLtbZr-euhQ

Skip to 14:04

[Scarlet Spider]

Sadly it never got an official explanation. The most common fan explanation is that Paragus' mind controlling device, which emits a green energy, caused that effect in movie 8 and still lingered even, when Broly was LSS.
After spending 7 years without that influence, the effect naturally disappeared too.

Of course in newer material, Broly's hair color couldn't be greener!

That's a really good theory and it actually makes a lot of sense. I can't believe I never thought of that sooner. Paragus' mind control device did alter the change in his aura.

Also I found the scene where broly gets fatigued or if you want to call it that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLtbZr-euhQ

Skip to 14:04

Yeah I assumed the mind control device had effects on his transformation colors/skin color.

Broly looks to be in moderate discomfort from the rising ki energy.

[Xeztin]

Since we are talking about the LSSJ being it's own form, I'll break down what I have come to believe;

There are actually three legends of the "Super Saiyans".

1) Begins with the first one being the Original Super Saiyan. He was supposedly a Golden Great Ape and hadn't mastered the form, (SSJ4) so he became wild and out of control. This is the legend that the Saiyans understand (different from the warning Freeza knows)

2) Bardock is the second legend we here about (in this certain order). He is the Super Saiyan legend known by Freeza and feared by Chilled. He is NOT* the Original Super Saiyan. He probably existed before or after the OSSJ, but they are two different beings all together. This legend is only a warning and nothing more. This isn't technically a legend, seeing as how the Saiyans weren't aware of Bardocks transformation, only Freezas ancestors were.

3) This one belongs to Broly, and is a different legend than the ones above. Imo, this is a certain SSJ that was only told in stories, as Vegeta states. Different from the OSSJ, in that this one had no historical records...only fables told by each other. The LSSJ form probably happens due to an increase in Power throughout the childs conception, or maybe a genetic mutation of some sort. No one really knows why Broly is a Legendary Super Saiyan, and there is no history behind it as mentioned above.

[KentalSSJ6]

Since we are talking about the LSSJ being it's own form, I'll break down what I have come to believe;

There are actually three legends of the "Super Saiyans".

1) Begins with the first one being the Original Super Saiyan. He was supposedly a Golden Great Ape and hadn't mastered the form, (SSJ4) so he became wild and out of control. This is the legend that the Saiyans understand (different from the warning Freeza knows)

2) Bardock is the second legend we here about (in this certain order). He is the Super Saiyan legend known by Freeza and feared by Chilled. He is NOT* the Original Super Saiyan. He probably existed before or after the OSSJ, but they are two different beings all together. This legend is only a warning and nothing more. This isn't technically a legend, seeing as how the Saiyans weren't aware of Bardocks transformation, only Freezas ancestors were.

3) This one belongs to Broly, and is a different legend than the ones above. Imo, this is a certain SSJ that was only told in stories, as Vegeta states. Different from the OSSJ, in that this one had no historical records...only fables told by each other. The LSSJ form probably happens due to an increase in Power throughout the childs conception, or maybe a genetic mutation of some sort. No one really knows why Broly is a Legendary Super Saiyan, and there is no history behind it as mentioned above.

DB Minus showed us Freeza supposedly knew of Super Saiyan God as well.

[Xeztin]

Since we are talking about the LSSJ being it's own form, I'll break down what I have come to believe;

There are actually three legends of the "Super Saiyans".

1) Begins with the first one being the Original Super Saiyan. He was supposedly a Golden Great Ape and hadn't mastered the form, (SSJ4) so he became wild and out of control. This is the legend that the Saiyans understand (different from the warning Freeza knows)

2) Bardock is the second legend we here about (in this certain order). He is the Super Saiyan legend known by Freeza and feared by Chilled. He is NOT* the Original Super Saiyan. He probably existed before or after the OSSJ, but they are two different beings all together. This legend is only a warning and nothing more. This isn't technically a legend, seeing as how the Saiyans weren't aware of Bardocks transformation, only Freezas ancestors were.

3) This one belongs to Broly, and is a different legend than the ones above. Imo, this is a certain SSJ that was only told in stories, as Vegeta states. Different from the OSSJ, in that this one had no historical records...only fables told by each other. The LSSJ form probably happens due to an increase in Power throughout the childs conception, or maybe a genetic mutation of some sort. No one really knows why Broly is a Legendary Super Saiyan, and there is no history behind it as mentioned above.

DB Minus showed us Freeza supposedly knew of Super Saiyan God as well.

Right, Ill add that to the list, Freeza, or his henchmen knowing about the OSSJG shouldn't be too hard to explain, since it happened on Planet Vegeta, Saiyan's fighting among themselves was probably a big thing, or "News worthy" if you will, and a lot of people even on different worlds more than likely heard about the war at the time. Especially neighboring planets, which could explain why one of Freeza's henchmen knew, and either Freeza wasn't born yet, or was on the other side of the Universe. Few eyewitnesses could have turned it into a "Legend" or "tale" I suppose. I could be entirely wrong.

[LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta]

Lssj is it's own form. Has bigger muscles without speed boost is a trait unique to it,and forever growing power.

[dragonballer]

Sadly it never got an official explanation. The most common fan explanation is that Paragus' mind controlling device, which emits a green energy, caused that effect in movie 8 and still lingered even, when Broly was LSS.
After spending 7 years without that influence, the effect naturally disappeared too.

Of course in newer material, Broly's hair color couldn't be greener!

That's a really good theory and it actually makes a lot of sense. I can't believe I never thought of that sooner. Paragus' mind control device did alter the change in his aura.

Also I found the scene where broly gets fatigued or if you want to call it that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLtbZr-euhQ

Skip to 14:04

Yeah I assumed the mind control device had effects on his transformation colors/skin color.

Broly looks to be in moderate discomfort from the rising ki energy.

actually,in movie 10, broly has green "shadows" on his hair,if the control device has something to do with it,it's influence didn't disappered completely in seven years. or maybe the meteor of movie 8 gave some special light effect on broly hair.

[LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta]

Of course in newer material, Broly's hair color couldn't be greener![/quote]

That's a really good theory and it actually makes a lot of sense. I can't believe I never thought of that sooner. Paragus' mind control device did alter the change in his aura.

Also I found the scene where broly gets fatigued or if you want to call it that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLtbZr-euhQ

Skip to 14:04[/quote]

Yeah I assumed the mind control device had effects on his transformation colors/skin color.

Broly looks to be in moderate discomfort from the rising ki energy.[/quote]

actually,in movie 10, broly has green "shadows" on his hair,if the control device has something to do with it,it's influence didn't disappered completely in seven years. or maybe the meteor of movie 8 gave some special light effect on broly hair.[/quote]


I think commit camory gave lighting effect,I mean Goku had PURPLE HAIR in the film....so that supports what you said a crap ton,even if people will keep thinking it's the device.

[precita]

What I don't get is how was Broly literally defeated by one punch in Movie 8 from a worn down Goku and everyone else badly damaged and nearly fainted? Even the combined power of their weakened states shouldn't have been enough to defeat him in one hit.

Honestly the whole climax of Movie 8 is beyond bizarre. Its like they built up Broly so strong they had no realistic way to show them beating him.

[Kuririn Fan]

What I don't get is how was Broly literally defeated by one punch in Movie 8 from a worn down Goku and everyone else badly damaged and nearly fainted? Even the combined power of their weakened states shouldn't have been enough to defeat him in one hit.

Honestly the whole climax of Movie 8 is beyond bizarre. Its like they built up Broly so strong they had no realistic way to show them beating him.

That was the place of his wound as a baby.

[LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta]

What I don't get is how was Broly literally defeated by one punch in Movie 8 from a worn down Goku and everyone else badly damaged and nearly fainted? Even the combined power of their weakened states shouldn't have been enough to defeat him in one hit.

Honestly the whole climax of Movie 8 is beyond bizarre. Its like they built up Broly so strong they had no realistic way to show them beating him.

That was the place of his wound as a baby.

Yes,however it was healed by then it seams as the spot was fine,while in movie 10 he still had the wound from Goku's punch. The only hing that can beat Broly is plot holes,or GT characters....or end of Z characters. But if you take either Lssj3 or Lssj4 Broly from Heroes vs beerus and whis....broly ROFLSTOMPS em.