"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[ZombieVito]

So glad Piccolo is fighting for U6. He's my favorite character.

This pretty much states, that Piccolo is stronger than Trunks or Goten.

Or it could be that Goku and Vegeta wanted to avoid trouble with their wives for entering kid Goten and Trunks into a dangerous event (with no cash incentive).

How is a no killing tournament dangerous?

[LuckyCat]

How is a no killing tournament dangerous?

Broken ribs, broken arms, damage to teeth? Not to mention it takes place in some crazy distant land. Most parents wouldn't be too thrilled about this for their kids, especially when there's so little to gain.

[raulvalente]

Both Goten and Trunks have potential, they could hold their own on a tournament if they fought seriously. Especially Goten.

[Hellspawn28]

So glad Piccolo is fighting for U6. He's my favorite character.

This pretty much states, that Piccolo is stronger than Trunks or Goten.

Wasn't he always? Piccolo was stronger than the Super Saiyans in the Cell saga after he fused with Kami.

Are Goten and Trunks just as strong as they where on the Buu saga? I think that they probably stop training after Buu since Chi Chi try to focus studying on Goten and Bluma wants Trunks to be a businessman. Even in GT, Trunks mentions Goku, Gohan, Goten, Vegeta and Piccolo being one of the strongest warriors on Earth.

[precita]

How are Trunks and Goten stronger than Piccolo? They're Super Saiyans, but they have no fighting experience and have never seen true combat without fusing. Piccolo was already stronger than Super Saiyan Goku, Vegeta and Trunks in the Cell saga after fusing with Kami.

There are people who seriously think they're as strong as Goku was on Namek? They they could beat Freeza at 100% on Namek? I doubt it.

[LightBing]

Are Goten and Trunks just as strong as they where on the Buu saga? I think that they probably stop training after Buu since Chi Chi try to focus studying on Goten and Bluma wants Trunks to be a businessman. Even in GT, Trunks mentions Goku, Gohan, Goten, Vegeta and Piccolo being one of the strongest warriors on Earth.

They must be. They never really trained, only fight played, with Trunks probably sometimes copying his father, going into the gravity room and stuff. They're regular kids.

I don't know were you're getting their mothers intentions towards the kids. Chi-chi didn't seemed to push Goten to study like Gohan, I think it's mentioned in the series how she relaxed after Goku's death in the Cell Games. I never saw Bulma say anything regarding Trunks future.

How are Trunks and Goten stronger than Piccolo? They're Super Saiyans, but they have no fighting experience and have never seen true combat without fusing. Piccolo was already stronger than Super Saiyan Goku, Vegeta and Trunks in the Cell saga after fusing with Kami.

There are people who seriously think they're as strong as Goku was on Namek? They they could beat Freeza at 100% on Namek? I doubt it.

It's not 100% confirmed they are stronger than Piccolo. However, they are for sure stronger than #18. During their fight Trunks launched a ki attack, which he was careful enough to restrain so was not to accidentally kill #18. She was able to dodge but acknowledged she had to end the match immediately.

For me they are stronger than Piccolo, there's enough prove to put them close to the Adult Saiyans.

[Doctor.]

How are Trunks and Goten stronger than Piccolo? They're Super Saiyans, but they have no fighting experience and have never seen true combat without fusing. Piccolo was already stronger than Super Saiyan Goku, Vegeta and Trunks in the Cell saga after fusing with Kami.

There are people who seriously think they're as strong as Goku was on Namek? They they could beat Freeza at 100% on Namek? I doubt it.

And that's irrelevant, the kids are stronger than those Super Saiyans too. Gohan said they'd surpass him, Goten managed to give Gohan a good workout and Trunks sufficed as a good training partner for Vegeta. Piccolo was astonished at their power and he also called them Earth's last hope BEFORE he knew of fusion. The Daizenshuu also claims Goten has the same power as Gohan. Super Saiyan Trunks was about to kill #18, by her own admission.

They are that strong, saying they're weaker than Freeza is blatant denial.

[irreality]

There are people who seriously think they're as strong as Goku was on Namek? They they could beat Freeza at 100% on Namek? I doubt it.

Umm… it was pretty explicitly stated that they can in the JSAT. When Tarble tells them that Avo and Cado are as strong as freeza, Goku and Vegeta are like: oh, that is perfect for Goten and Trunks!

[fadeddreams5]

I'm fairly certain Super will retcon anything indicating they're stronger than Piccolo. It may have been the case, but it was always a stupid decision. Goku picking Piccolo over them is already evidence.

[Sandubadear]

Gohan said they'd surpass him

Yet they never did. In my opinion Goten and Trunks are about the same level of Gohan in the Android arc (except they can go SSJ, Gohan couldn't).

[Noah]

I'm fairly certain Super will retcon anything indicating they're stronger than Piccolo. It may have been the case, but it was always a stupid decision. Goku picking Piccolo over them is already evidence.

Not really. If Gotenks is not a good choice because of his time limit, Goten or Trunks individually would be a mess since they lack tactics and fight experience like Piccolo. Is not all about power, I guess

[precita]

Trunks and Goten probably would have surpassed Gohan and everyone else if they trained seriously and got stronger and stronger as time went on...yet we know that's unlikely to happen.

In GT they both never got any stronger than a standard Super Saiyan, I doubt Super will be any different.

[Vaughngief]

I haven't been on the forums for a while and I tried doing some digging, but couldn't find anything and I didn't wanna resort to DBZ youtubers. Were U7's tournament participants picked and some theory about female saiyans?

[Doctor.]

I haven't been on the forums for a while and I tried doing some digging, but couldn't find anything and I didn't wanna resort to DBZ youtubers. Were U7's tournament participants picked and some theory about female saiyans?

Universe 7's participants have been picked yes. They are Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo, Majin Boo and a secret fifth contestant, the strongest person Beerus has ever fought barring Whis.

The theory about female Saiyans comes from Champa and Vados saying they were gonna recruit some Saiyans for their team and, earlier in the chapter, Goku said he liked Chi-Chi because she's strong willed, and Vegeta mentions that it's because of his Saiyan blood, all Saiyan women were like that. Some people interpreted this as foreshadowing.

[Neon Z]

For me they are stronger than Piccolo, there's enough prove to put them close to the Adult Saiyans.

Vegeta took out Trunks with one straight hit after he became a SSJ, when he saw him using the form for the first time though. And there's also how, when the Gotenks fusion time ran out, Super Buu became Piccolo Buu, rather than Trunks Buu.

They had a lot of potential, considering how easily they got to those levels, but the only scene that really suggests that they were really strong overall (rather than just surprisingly strong for who they are) is the battle with #18, and even that can be mostly excused due to the surprise factor, since she likely wouldn't be expecting to fight anyone even near their level.

[DBZ_Lee]

I'm a little disappointed that Toyotarō hasn't been able to re-draw the Super version of the "F" Arc. Though I understand it has probably been done to get the manga far enough ahead of the Series.
I do get that he's not long drawn the movie version, but with the changes that have been made, it would have been nice to have had the Super re-telling, too. I assume the Super Manga will eventually be released in tankōbon format as "Anime Comics" the same as BoG was, and "F" which is released early December - having thought about it, it could be that this release is the reason they don't want the Arc also appearing in V-Jump at the moment.

Though I'm sure that when Super does get a tankōbon release, the Arc will be re-drawn anyhow.

[dbzfan7]

The picked contestants were never about most powerful when it came to the earthlings. Otherwise they'd super convenient power up every saiyan so they at least are closer to Goku and Vegeta levels. The fighters I don't think will all be Goku or Vegeta tier so it's fine to have Boo and Piccolo. Otherwise I'll laugh so hard if those two are wasted, and it's a 3-5 scenario after they possibly lose.

[Doctor.]

The picked contestants were never about most powerful when it came to the earthlings. Otherwise they'd super convenient power up every saiyan so they at least are closer to Goku and Vegeta levels. The fighters I don't think will all be Goku or Vegeta tier so it's fine to have Boo and Piccolo. Otherwise I'll laugh so hard if those two are wasted, and it's a 3-5 scenario after they possibly lose.

I mean, Boo is still very powerful on his own right. The only one in the team that seems like a pushover is Piccolo.

[eledoremassis02]

The picked contestants were never about most powerful when it came to the earthlings. Otherwise they'd super convenient power up every saiyan so they at least are closer to Goku and Vegeta levels. The fighters I don't think will all be Goku or Vegeta tier so it's fine to have Boo and Piccolo. Otherwise I'll laugh so hard if those two are wasted, and it's a 3-5 scenario after they possibly lose.

Him skipping ahead kinda makes me glad I'm getting the Vjumps as I fear we won't get tankobans. I'm not sure the Freeza arc will be drawn so I just threw in the revival F manga in there to fill it in a bit.

[dbzfan7]

The picked contestants were never about most powerful when it came to the earthlings. Otherwise they'd super convenient power up every saiyan so they at least are closer to Goku and Vegeta levels. The fighters I don't think will all be Goku or Vegeta tier so it's fine to have Boo and Piccolo. Otherwise I'll laugh so hard if those two are wasted, and it's a 3-5 scenario after they possibly lose.

I mean, Boo is still very powerful on his own right. The only one in the team that seems like a pushover is Piccolo.

Well they have 5 days to train too to become something....if they even do train. They probably will, and I'd be shocked if they didn't.....ok maybe not if fatass did nothing since he's an asshole, but Piccolo will train for sure. Though that test thing makes me wonder if Boo will pass. Why bother bringing it up if everyone is gonna pass? Only thing I can think of is a joke of how Boo and Goku barely pass or something like that, or Boo will literally fail and so someone will have to take his place. Somehow if that happened, I'd bet on Mr. Satan taking it by accident.