The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Cetra]

I would say Cell Saga Tenshinhan already has the chance but he would also die even if he'd succeed because of the Kiko-ho.

[Battousai]

If they can work together, they can beat Freeza 1st form. But only if Tenshinhan uses Shin Kikoho.

I doubt Freeza would be hit by a Kienzan, that attack isn't that fast. However, Kikoho blast is one of the fastest attacks in the series. And damn powerful.

Kuririn uses solar flare, Tenshinhan blast the hell out of Freeza with Shin Kikoho.Yamcha watches. They win.

[Kid Buu]

There is a Vs. thread dude.

Anyway, to answer your question:

Krillin: Freeza still functioned after he was chopped in half by his own disc, so Krillin would have to cut him vertically to win. Kind of similar to how Trunks did it, actually.

Tenshinhan: Maybe with the Kikoho plot hax, but that would also kill him in return, so technically maybe a draw at best.

Yamcha; No.

[GTX]

Even Goku ssgss can still get one shotted by laser. So yes the answer is all of them can certainly.

[FoolsGil]

Tenshinhan has the best chance, if he's willing to die for it.

[Khin]

Kurrin and Tenshinhan at their prime are only 1rst Form Freeza level at best with Yamcha being Goku(Namek Arrival) to Ginyu level.They would get wrecked by 2nd Form Freeza unless Ten will recieve a Cell Saga Kikoho hax.

[Noah]

New matches:

- Super Boo-Piccolo x SSJ3 Gotenks

- Beyond Limits SSJ4 Goku x Golden Freeza

- SSJ4 Vegeta x SSGSS Goku

- Final Form Freeza (RoF) x Super Boo-tenks

[SSGSS Vegetto]

New matches:

- Super Boo-Piccolo x SSJ3 Gotenks

- Beyond Limits SSJ4 Goku x Golden Freeza

- SSJ4 Vegeta x SSGSS Goku

- Final Form Freeza (RoF) x Super Boo-tenks

1) SSJ3 Gotenks wins.
2) Golden Freeza stomps. (GT cannot compete with Super! 3 clashes destroy the universe, it's settled, Beerus sneezing away a planet.)
3) SSGSS Goku stomps easy. (The same feats. as above.)
4)Final Form Freeza (RoF) may win this.

[Battousai]

New matches:

- Super Boo-Piccolo x SSJ3 Gotenks

- Beyond Limits SSJ4 Goku x Golden Freeza

- SSJ4 Vegeta x SSGSS Goku

- Final Form Freeza (RoF) x Super Boo-tenks

1. Close battle. If Gotenks isn't fooling around, he wins.

2. Golden Freeza stomps. He's god level.

3. SSGSS Goku one shots.

4. Very close battle. Super Bootenks, due to his regeneration ability, wins.

[GTX]

New matches:

- Super Boo-Piccolo x SSJ3 Gotenks

- Beyond Limits SSJ4 Goku x Golden Freeza

- SSJ4 Vegeta x SSGSS Goku

- Final Form Freeza (RoF) x Super Boo-tenks

> super boo piccollo stomp
> ssj 4 goku stomp. He lost to goku in human form so it's setled he is no match
> SSJ 4 vegeta stomp. It has much stronger body and endurance.
> bootenks stomp. bootenks has much better endurance
Actually i don't think ssj g is a lot increase from ssj 3 because it still lose to beerus factually.

[Hero]

New matches:

- Super Boo-Piccolo x SSJ3 Gotenks

- Beyond Limits SSJ4 Goku x Golden Freeza

- SSJ4 Vegeta x SSGSS Goku

- Final Form Freeza (RoF) x Super Boo-tenks

- Super Boo- Piccolo stomps even with a not-so-big power advantage due to his newly acquired smarts. In fact, he kills Gotenks with the fusion's own kamikaze ghost.
- According to GT logic: GT Goku finger flicks. According to normal logic: I have regular 4th form RF Frieza beating SSJ4 Limits Surpassed Goku easily.
- I have God Goku winning this with ease.
- Frieza finger disintegrates them.


Now time for my gauntlet!

How far do these characters go?

-Roshi (Resurrection F)
- Chiaotzu (Buu arc)
- Yamcha (Android arc)
- Tenshinhan (Buu arc- NO Shin Kikoho)
-Tenshinhan (Buu arc- can use Tri-Beam)
- Krillin (Android arc)
- Base Goten (post- RoSaT)
- Base Trunks (post- RoSaT)
- Base Vegeta (BoG)
- Base Goku (BoG - NO Kaioken)
- Yamcha, Tien and Krillin

Gauntlet:
0. Raditz
1. Nappa
2. Over 8,000 Goku
3. Saiyan Saga Vegeta
4. 24,000 Vegeta
5. Monster Zarbon
6. Recoome
7. Namek 90,000 Goku
8. Captain Ginyu
9. Namek Kaioken (180,000) Goku
10. First Form Frieza
11. Second Form Frieza
12. Third Form Frieza
13. Vegeta (Final Zenkai)
14. Frieza Saga Goku (NO Kaioken)
15. KK x 10 Frieza Saga Goku
16. 50% Frieza
17. 70% Frieza
18. 100% Frieza
19. SSJ Goku (Namek)
20. Insert character here if you go with Base Saiyans > Frieza


My answers:
- Roshi wipes out Raditz with a full power KHH but has no chance against Nappa
- Chizotzu beats Monster Zarbon after a long battle
- Yamcha has the hardest battle of his life fighting aginst 3rd form Frieza but wins in the end, barely.
- Without his Kikoho, Tien beats No-Kaioken Frieza Saga Goku (the 3,000,000 one) but loses badly against the KKx 10.
- With his Kikoho, Tien wins easily against 3,000,000 Goku but still can't win against the KK x 10.
- Krillin beats Frieza Saga Goku but once again loses to the KK x 10.
- Goten utterly destroys Frieza Saga Goku but still loses to the KK x 10.
- Trunks shares Goten's fate.
- BoG Base Vegeta has a hard fight against 100% Frieza but wins due to Frieza's lack of stamina and a precisely timed Final Flash.
- BoG Base Goku wins just like Vegeta except with a KHH.
- Team Human beats SSJ Goku with Tenshinhan holding Goku down with the Shin Kikoho and Krillin slicing him with a Kienzan. Yamcha is their human shield.

[Noah]

You have:

Yamcha (Android Arc) > 3rd Form Freeza?

Krillin (Android Arc) > Goku (Namek Arc)?

A bit of an exaggeration, if you allow me.

[RandomGuy96]

New matches:

- Super Boo-Piccolo x SSJ3 Gotenks

- Beyond Limits SSJ4 Goku x Golden Freeza

- SSJ4 Vegeta x SSGSS Goku

- Final Form Freeza (RoF) x Super Boo-tenks

1. Super Buu already won, so...

2. There's no way to tell.

3. There's no way to tell.

4. Buutenks stomps.

There's really no reason to believe Freeza is that strong without his Golden form; all that's really known is 1st form Freeza > SS Gohan and final form Freeza < base Goku, and Goku's own base power is screwball in that movie. Because I don't like buffing characters for no reason, and because Roshi wasn't sure about Freeza being totally untouchable to SS Gohan immediately, I just assume 1st form Freeza is x1.5 superior to SS Gohan. I peg final form Freeza at about Ultimate Gohan tier.

[Lord Beerus]

Now time for my gauntlet!

How far do these characters go?

-Roshi (Resurrection F)
- Chiaotzu (Buu arc)
- Yamcha (Android arc)
- Tenshinhan (Buu arc- NO Shin Kikoho)
-Tenshinhan (Buu arc- can use Tri-Beam)
- Krillin (Android arc)
- Base Goten (post- RoSaT)
- Base Trunks (post- RoSaT)
- Base Vegeta (BoG)
- Base Goku (BoG - NO Kaioken)
- Yamcha, Tenshinhan and Krillin

Gauntlet:
0. Raditz
1. Nappa
2. Over 8,000 Goku
3. Saiyan Saga Vegeta
4. 24,000 Vegeta
5. Monster Zarbon
6. Recoome
7. Namek 90,000 Goku
8. Captain Ginyu
9. Namek Kaioken (180,000) Goku
10. First Form Freeza
11. Second Form Freeza
12. Third Form Freeza
13. Vegeta (Final Zenkai)
14. Freeza Saga Goku (NO Kaioken)
15. KK x 10 Freeza Saga Goku
16. stops at 100% Freeza
17. 70% Freeza
18. 100% Freeza
19. SSJ Goku (Namek)
20. Insert character here if you go with Base Saiyans > Freeza

- Roshi (Resurrection F) stops at Captain Ginyu
- Chiaotzu (Buu arc) stops at Namek Kaioken Goku
- Yamcha (Android arc) stops at Third Form Freeza
- Tenshinhan (Buu arc- NO Shin Kikoho) stops at Vegeta (Final Zenkai)
- Tenshinhan (Buu arc- can use Tri-Beam) stops at Freeza Saga Goku (NO Kaioken)
- Krillin (Android arc) stops at Vegeta (Final Zenkai)
- Base Goten (post- RoSaT) stops at 100% Freeza
- Base Trunks (post- RoSaT) stops at 100% Freeza
- Base Vegeta (BoG) stops at 100% Freeza
- Base Goku (BoG - NO Kaioken) stops at 100% Freeza
- Yamcha, Tenshinhan and Krillin stops at 50% Freeza

[DanielSSJ]

Let's say Krillin, Yamcha and Tenshinhan are at their prime (so whatever they were at their peaks, not when they stop training and get weaker), could they defeat Freeza on Namek?

Since we know every Saiyan, Piccolo, Android 18, etc. could all beat Freeza on Namek, what about the humans?

Based on how Beerus says that Goku wasn't strong enough to beat Freeza in his normal form, I doubt the humans would have the necessary power to do anything to Freeza. Their only chance would be a Taiyoken/Kienzan combo, but that would make to much sense.

[DanielSSJ]

Now time for my gauntlet!

How far do these characters go?

-Roshi (Resurrection F)
- Chiaotzu (Buu arc)
- Yamcha (Android arc)
- Tenshinhan (Buu arc- NO Shin Kikoho)
-Tenshinhan (Buu arc- can use Tri-Beam)
- Krillin (Android arc)
- Base Goten (post- RoSaT)
- Base Trunks (post- RoSaT)
- Base Vegeta (BoG)
- Base Goku (BoG - NO Kaioken)
- Yamcha, Tenshinhan and Krillin

Gauntlet:
0. Raditz
1. Nappa
2. Over 8,000 Goku
3. Saiyan Saga Vegeta
4. 24,000 Vegeta
5. Monster Zarbon
6. Recoome
7. Namek 90,000 Goku
8. Captain Ginyu
9. Namek Kaioken (180,000) Goku
10. First Form Freeza
11. Second Form Freeza
12. Third Form Freeza
13. Vegeta (Final Zenkai)
14. Freeza Saga Goku (NO Kaioken)
15. KK x 10 Freeza Saga Goku
16. stops at 100% Freeza
17. 70% Freeza
18. 100% Freeza
19. SSJ Goku (Namek)
20. Insert character here if you go with Base Saiyans > Freeza

- Roshi wouldn't make it past Nappa
- Chaozu stops at Ginyu
- Ten without Kikoho stops at 2nd Form Freeza
- Ten with Kikoho stops at Freeza arc Goku (no Kaioken)
- Kuririn stops at 2nd Form Freeza, unless he can pull off a Taioken/Kienzan cambo, in which case he makes it to 100% Freeza.
- Goten and Trunks make it to Goku (KK x10)
- Goku and Vegeta stop at 100% Freeza

[Methuselah]

New matches:

- Super Boo-Piccolo x SSJ3 Gotenks

Buu could probably just absorb him again if it came down to it. Even without that, he's still the smarter and more skilled fighter, and the tiny power gap might be in his favor here.

- Beyond Limits SSJ4 Goku x Golden Freeza

- SSJ4 Vegeta x SSGSS Goku

From a "feats" standpoint, Freeza and Blue Goku win their respective battles easily. From a powerscaling perspective, there's no real way of telling like RandomGuy said. If I had to go with the latter method, I'll borrow Xenoverse's heavy implication of SSJ4 being equal to SSJG and throw in my own perspective, plus GT's established powerscale.

SSJ4 Vegeta ≈ SSJ4 Goku (Surpassed Limits) > Yi Xing Long > Super 17 (10x Kamehameha absorbed) > Golden Freeza (Peak condition) > SSJGSSJ > SSJ4 Goku = SSJG

I don't think the gap between SSJGSSJ Goku and SSJ4/SSJG is as large as the one between Super 17 and SSJ4 Goku, and Freeza isn't overwhelmingly stronger than SSJGSSJ. A lot of this is fairly arbitrary though.

[GTX]

New matches:

- Super Boo-Piccolo x SSJ3 Gotenks

Buu could probably just absorb him again if it came down to it. Even without that, he's still the smarter and more skilled fighter, and the tiny power gap might be in his favor here.

- Beyond Limits SSJ4 Goku x Golden Freeza

- SSJ4 Vegeta x SSGSS Goku

From a "feats" standpoint, Freeza and Blue Goku win their respective battles easily. From a powerscaling perspective, there's no real way of telling like RandomGuy said. If I had to go with the latter method, I'll borrow Xenoverse's heavy implication of SSJ4 being equal to SSJG and throw in my own perspective, plus GT's established powerscale.

SSJ4 Vegeta ≈ SSJ4 Goku (Surpassed Limits) > Yi Xing Long > Super 17 (10x Kamehameha absorbed) > Golden Freeza (Peak condition) > SSJGSSJ > SSJ4 Goku = SSJG

I don't think the gap between SSJGSSJ Goku and SSJ4/SSJG is as large as the one between Super 17 and SSJ4 Goku, and Freeza isn't overwhelmingly stronger than SSJGSSJ. A lot of this is fairly arbitrary though.

Why do you put ssj 4 has huge gap than super 17. Eventhough he has absorbed 10 kamehameha or many other ki blast in general and goku is exhausted he almost rekt super 17 and state he was lucky to survive but he was heavily wounded. It show blood in his face and and damage in his whole body.
Kamehameha 10 X is his strongest skill at least it's stronger than his full power ki blast that very nearly kill super 17 eventhough he was protected by barrier. As stated by super 17 if he was not put a barrer bit faster he was the one that get beaten.
So ssj 4 can even be said is stronger than super 17.

[AS_Saiyan]

So how much time do you think it would take for Kuririn and Tenshinhan to take on 1,000 Freeza soldiers (each is alone versus the 1,000 soldiers) without holding back - with intention to kill all of them?

[Sandubadear]

So how much time do you think it would take for Kuririn and Tenshinhan to take on 1,000 Freeza soldiers (each is alone versus the 1,000 soldiers) without holding back - with intention to kill all of them?

One minute, maybe even less.