The Mystic form is OP

[Captain Strawberry]

If you think about it, the mystic form or potential unleashed (elder Kai's unlock ability) is quite over powered. All of Gohans dormant powers were unlocked and when he train he trains with his potential or infinite potential as it is stated his powers are bottomless. So you get a headstart and when you train, you pretty much make 'quick progress'. That is quite over powered isn't it?

[swimtrunks]

I would say it's overpowered but I still have no clue what exactly his potential is. I thought SSJ2 was his hidden potential...

[Hugo Boss]

I think there will be always something hidden as characters keep getting stronger. They unleash their full potential and pah.. a new hidden realm takes place. Training as Ultimate Gohan would be basically training as Super Saiyan with less strain.

[Captain Strawberry]

I think there will be always something hidden as characters keep getting stronger. They unleash their full potential and pah.. a new hidden realm takes place. Training as Ultimate Gohan would be basically training as Super Saiyan with less strain.

No, probably even greater. When he trains, he makes quicker progress then the span it would normally take. Even when he was training in the room of time and spirit, he was quickly catching up to a fully adult and trained Super Saiyajin.

[Hugo Boss]

Perhaps that happened at such scale because Gohan was still a kid, but who knows. He could achieve Super Saiyan Blue in less than 6 months. At least, he has a younger body than Goku and Vegeta.

[Neo-Makaiōshin]

The technique is 'OP' if the the person in who it's being applied has an incredible inner potential, otherwise the technique is not OP.

[yamu]

It's over powered, but it didn't get thrown around to everyone like SSJ did. So I don’t get bothered by it here since the use was so limited. Plus it doesn't look like it has done much for Gohan in the long run

[NitroEX]

Ultimate Gohan is hardly OP. He became stronger than SS3 and unfused Boo but, even so, he was still no match for Bootenks or Vegetto. In comparison Vegetto is far more OP but the SSG forms + Beerus & Whis are implied to be even stronger than him so it's a no brainer who's really overpowered here.

[Lord Beerus]

The form isn't OP, it's the concept behind the form is quite contrived. The Ultimate/Mystic form is literally proof that Gohan can get an instant power at any stage and rise back up the pecking order. It's gonna happen Super, no doubt about it.

[dbzfan7]

The form isn't OP, it's the concept behind the form is quite contrived. The Ultimate/Mystic form is literally proof that Gohan can get an instant power at any stage and rise back up the pecking order. It's gonna happen Super, no doubt about it.

Considering how little they care about him, I doubt that. I expect a couple more 86ing til they make a meme out of it.

[Lord Beerus]

The form isn't OP, it's the concept behind the form is quite contrived. The Ultimate/Mystic form is literally proof that Gohan can get an instant power at any stage and rise back up the pecking order. It's gonna happen Super, no doubt about it.

Considering how little they care about him, I doubt that. I expect a couple more 86ing til they make a meme out of it.

Toriyama will throw him a bone. If he was willing to give Krillin, Tien, Jaco and freaking Roshi some major screen time in a modern DBZ movie, anything is possible with that guy in charge. Not to mention, Piccolo and Majin Boo steeping and sideline and seeming being set to play a major part in the new arc of Super. If there's one thing Toriyama is willing to do, it's give everyone a moment. Whether it be small or big.

[dbzfan7]

The form isn't OP, it's the concept behind the form is quite contrived. The Ultimate/Mystic form is literally proof that Gohan can get an instant power at any stage and rise back up the pecking order. It's gonna happen Super, no doubt about it.

Considering how little they care about him, I doubt that. I expect a couple more 86ing til they make a meme out of it.

Toriyama will throw him a bone. If he was willing to give Krillin, Tenshinhan, Jaco and freaking Roshi some major screen time in a modern DBZ movie, anything is possible with that guy in charge. Not to mention, Piccolo and Majin Boo steeping and sideline and seeming being set to play a major part in the new arc of Super. If there's one thing Toriyama is willing to do, it's give everyone a moment. Whether it be small or big.

I don't think so. Screen time to me at least isn't throwing a bone. It was nice to see those characters, but beyond fan service, it didn't progress them at all. I don't see Boo going anywhere. Piccolo I have in the maybe category as Toriyama has a few times said he liked Piccolo. So he has some chance. Other than that I don't count screen time as justice to the characters, or Pilaf must have been done Super well in Super.

[ekrolo2]

It definitely was too OP if Toriyama thought making Gohan curb stomp Super Boo was gonna be a compelling fight. I personally would have had Boo eat Gotenks and just have Gohan & Bootenks fight against one another on even footing.

[Lord Beerus]

I don't think so. Screen time to me at least isn't throwing a bone. It was nice to see those characters, but beyond fan service, it didn't progress them at all. I don't see Boo going anywhere. Piccolo I have in the maybe category as Toriyama has a few times said he liked Piccolo. So he has some chance. Other than that I don't count screen time as justice to the characters, or Pilaf must have been done Super well in Super.

Well, I guess my standards are much lower than yours. I mean, I've never treated Dragon Ball like it's Game Of Thrones were their appearance onscreen must advance their character, because Dragon Ball isn't really a character driven story, it's ultimately a franchise that is based around how hard you can punch, kick and throw energy blasts while making it look cool as shit in the process. And I was thrilled by the prospect of seeing Krillin, Tien and Roshi doing that again after so many years of doing, well, nothing. Their characters may not have been advanced in any meaningful way when they did such actions in Resurrection F, but they ultimately got to kick some ass again, and in a series about fighting, that's at least acceptable in my book.

[dbzfan7]

I don't think so. Screen time to me at least isn't throwing a bone. It was nice to see those characters, but beyond fan service, it didn't progress them at all. I don't see Boo going anywhere. Piccolo I have in the maybe category as Toriyama has a few times said he liked Piccolo. So he has some chance. Other than that I don't count screen time as justice to the characters, or Pilaf must have been done Super well in Super.

Well, I guess my standards are much lower than yours. I mean, I've never treated Dragon Ball like it's Game Of Thrones were their appearance onscreen must advance their character, because Dragon Ball isn't really a character driven story, it's ultimately a franchise that is based around how hard you can punch, kick and throw energy blasts while making it look cool as shit in process. And I was thrilled by the prospect of seeing Krillin, Tenshinhan and Roshi doing that again after something years of doing, well, nothing. Their characters may not have been advanced in any meaningful way when they did such actions in Resurrection F, but they ultimately got to kick some ass again, and in a series about fighting, that's at least acceptable in my book.

I guess so. I see them doing stuff that's so far beneath them. I don't really care they beat up some no names. They deserve better then that. When they're simply earth's mooks, I feel that's just degrading.

[rereboy]

Of course it is OP.

In a saiyan, It literally substitutes all of his SSJ transformations (even ones that the saiyan hasn't unlocked) and makes the saiyan even more powerful than he would be with them, with none of the drawbacks from transformations.

That's why Gohan became more powerful than he would be if he merely unlocked SSJ3, and he had none of the drawbacks.

[Desassina]

Is "Mystic" Gohan really a form? I thought he had unleashed all of his potential at base, and that SSJ would only add more power with the drawbacks that "Mystic" removed. Since Gohan hadn't trained all of those years, SSJ would strain him to the point of not feeling natural, unlike the Cell games. I'm only asking this, because it's highly suspicious that he didn't transform against Buutenks, and yet he does in RoF.

[rereboy]

Is "Mystic" Gohan really a form? I thought he had unleashed all of his potential at base, and that SSJ would only add more power with the drawbacks that "Mystic" removed. Since Gohan hadn't trained all of those years, SSJ would strain him to the point of not feeling natural, unlike the Cell games. I'm only asking this, because it's highly suspicious that he didn't transform against Buutenks, and yet he does in RoF.

That has been my interpretation as well but a lot of fans believe it's actually some sort of form he has to "transform" to. Personally, I've always seen it as him simply raising his power as much as he could. Either way, the lack of explanation regarding it and Gohan's performances in DBGT, BOG, ROF and Super are incomprehensible.

[buutenks]

I dont think there is any mystic form.Its simply gohan able to tap into all his power while in base form.

Elder kai says to gohan that he should try to change in that ssj thing,gohan tries and he just powers up in base form.So ssj was not needed.

Now why he goes ssj in ROF,IMO,his unlocked power due to lack of training over the years simply locked itself up again so he couldnt tap into it,so he has to use ssj which dropped him down to cell game levels.Possibly even weaker.

[TheZFighter]

I thought the whole point of it was that it was overpowered?