So why doesn't Kageyama work on Dragon Ball anymore?

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So why doesn't Kageyama work on Dragon Ball anymore?

Post by Doctor. » Thu Nov 26, 2015 6:21 pm

Did something happen between him and Toei or Namco Bandai that I'm unaware of? He was doing songs for the video games (most recent one being Raging Blast 2 if I recall correctly), so you'd expect one of the major voices in Dragon Ball to stick around with the franchise when it's in its revival. But the movies have been using other groups to sing Cha-la, and the games have been using those covers for the openings. And Super has no insert songs as of yet.

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Re: So why doesn't Kageyama work on Dragon Ball anymore?

Post by Chuquita » Thu Nov 26, 2015 6:50 pm

Isn't he with a different music company now and that's why? Like it's a contractual thing where he can't do stuff for other companies' franchises?
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Re: So why doesn't Kageyama work on Dragon Ball anymore?

Post by DB1984 » Thu Nov 26, 2015 10:55 pm

My understanding is the main reason Kageyama doesn't work on DB anymore is because Toei gave Kenji Yamamoto the boot. Yamamoto was an arranger on a lot of Kageyama songs (including Cha-La), and sometime composer.

However, Toei did NOT ban the original Cha-La from ever being used again because of the Yamamoto fallout, and the Yamamoto fallout was NOT the main reason a brand new version was recorded by Flow. If that was true, Kanzenshuu would have reported on it by now.

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Re: So why doesn't Kageyama work on Dragon Ball anymore?

Post by kei17 » Fri Nov 27, 2015 12:20 am

In the Japanese TV anime industry, it's record companies who pay for productions of songs and scores. They have control over selection of artists. Since Kageyama quitted Columbia Japan and they are the ones who are in charge of the current time slot in which Super airs, there is no reason for them to hire him for the show. As for video games, the very reason is unknown, but my guess is that it has something to do with Yamamoto's scandal because literally every song for a DB video game sung by Kageyama was composed by Yamamoto. Considering that Yamamoto still arranges Kageyama's songs after the scandal, they are both very close and Kageyama might have said nay to singing non-Yamamoto DB songs.

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Re: So why doesn't Kageyama work on Dragon Ball anymore?

Post by Lord Beerus » Fri Nov 27, 2015 6:32 pm

kei17 wrote:In the Japanese TV anime industry, it's record companies who pay for productions of songs and scores. They have control over selection of artists. Since Kageyama quitted Columbia Japan and they are the ones who are in charge of the current time slot in which Super airs, there is no reason for them to hire him for the show. As for video games, the very reason is unknown, but my guess is that it has something to do with Yamamoto's scandal because literally every song for a DB video game sung by Kageyama was composed by Yamamoto. Considering that Yamamoto still arranges Kageyama's songs after the scandal, they are both very close and Kageyama might have said nay to singing non-Yamamoto DB songs.
It's a shame we'll most likely never get Kageyama to do songs for Dragon Ball video games again. It seems like Flow's "Cha-La-Head-Cha-La" will be the go-to OP theme for DB video games in the future. :|

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Re: So why doesn't Kageyama work on Dragon Ball anymore?

Post by DB1984 » Fri Nov 27, 2015 8:13 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:It's a shame we'll most likely never get Kageyama to do songs for Dragon Ball video games again. It seems like Flow's "Cha-La-Head-Cha-La" will be the go-to OP theme for DB video games in the future. :|
Flow's version sucks Dragon Balls.

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