"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Sodhi » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:54 pm

All you wondering why it still look a little weird is because, first of all these are still shots. Second of all, they most likely touched up some mistakes in the episode rather than fully redoing it (which makes perfect sense for a company to do.)

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Cetra » Wed Dec 02, 2015 6:02 pm

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Retan wrote:Great; but is the new version the one where Goku has three pecks?
It's not a third pec, but it is a little odd. They've done it for decades, and I'm still not 100% sure what exactly it's meant to be. I guess it's meant to be a way of fusing the arm to the torso? Not sure.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Ajay » Wed Dec 02, 2015 6:05 pm

Cetra wrote:That is simply one of the upper shoulder muscles. Normally in Dragon Ball you see 2-3 drawn per arm and depending on the angle. Look at my avatar.
Ah, I guess that sort of makes sense. By the way, you might want to consider a new image host for your avatar, as I had to disable my script-blocker to even view it. I imagine others will have the same issue.
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Post by FortuneSSJ » Wed Dec 02, 2015 6:20 pm

I don't see much difference. But at least, they bothered to do something.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Sandubadear » Wed Dec 02, 2015 6:26 pm

Ajay wrote:
Cetra wrote:That is simply one of the upper shoulder muscles. Normally in Dragon Ball you see 2-3 drawn per arm and depending on the angle. Look at my avatar.
Ah, I guess that sort of makes sense. By the way, you might want to consider a new image host for your avatar, as I had to disable my script-blocker to even view it. I imagine others will have the same issue.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Slaythe » Wed Dec 02, 2015 11:33 pm

Hopefully some more frames have been redrawn.

I don't get why people are being negative about it.

Episode 5 was an all time low, not because "it looked bad", but because half of the episode had not been corrected AT ALL by key animators. It was impossible to recognize the character if we made abstraction of his clothes.

Now he definitely looks like Goku. And it might not be "stellar" but it's perfectly fine for an ongoing series. If Goku looks like Goku all is good.

The horrors from the first half were just a nightmare. Hopefully they fixed some of them.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by SingleFringe&Sparks » Thu Dec 03, 2015 12:45 am

Goku's chest muscles now looks crooked by the angle they left it in. I guess barely on-model is better than vaguely on-model right Toei?
I mean, changing frames a bit won't mean anything id the fight's choreography is still just Goku jumping and missing for 5 long minutes. They could very well just copy + paste the BoG fight and stick it in there, and that would be an improvement in itself. I just hope they fix up the SSJ3 and that Hadoken scene.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by SaiyaSith » Thu Dec 03, 2015 1:02 am

Ajay wrote:
Sodhi wrote:Dragon ball super Blu-Ray episode set 1 should have come out today. So is something fixed or not?.
Yup! Sure seems so. Though the improvements appear to vary. Some are really good:

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And others are... passable, at best.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Slaythe » Thu Dec 03, 2015 2:39 am

SingleFringe&Sparks wrote:Goku's chest muscles now looks crooked by the angle they left it in. I guess barely on-model is better than vaguely on-model right Toei?
I mean, changing frames a bit won't mean anything id the fight's choreography is still just Goku jumping and missing for 5 long minutes. They could very well just copy + paste the BoG fight and stick it in there, and that would be an improvement in itself. I just hope they fix up the SSJ3 and that Hadoken scene.
What do you mean won't mean anything ? This isn't even an argument when the episode in question looked like this :

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This isn't about changing Super, this is about finishing and correcting drawings that have clearly not been touched up by the key animators back in production before it aired on TV.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Dragon Ball Ireland » Thu Dec 03, 2015 7:06 am

There are definitely improvements in the new frames, it's not saying a lot considering Episode 5 of Super was the worst Dragon Ball has ever looked, but I definitely won't lose sleep over the retouched images when I'm finally watching this on my own Blu-ray player.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Zetto » Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:01 am

It seems like a user named さくよ, uploaded comparison screenshots for all the changes made in episode 5 in his Twitter acount.

You can see them here:
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Ajay » Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:02 am

More updates! Wow, they really changed a heck of a lot. Here are the high-res versions of the ones posted above.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Doctor. » Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:04 am

It looks much better now, especially the SS3 part of the fight. Still curious to see how it looks in motion, though, I'm sure the blur affects they added will make the scenes seem a lot more pleasant to look at.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:09 am

Damn. That's so much better!! Well done Toei!

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Draconic » Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:48 am

Bravo :clap: Really need to see it in motion, but it looks like they've done the job.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Kakarotto92 » Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:10 am

Really happy about this :D Here's hoping Toei also fixed some of those fugly drawings from episode 9 during the SSG ritual.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by raulvalente » Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:13 am

I'm extremely happy and relieved. Props to Toei for fixing those frames. :clap:

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Slaythe » Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:21 am

They didn't fix anything.

That's the normal correction the team led by Naoki Tate did, they just lacked time and aired the unfinished episode.

So I'm not sure we should praise Toei. I doubt they'd actually go back and fix any episode that was completed. In fact the typos and error of colors on finished episodes have not been touched upon on those blurays.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Kakarotto92 » Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:23 am

I wonder why they removed Beerus' snout in the third image, he looks weird without it plus there was nothing wrong with the way he was drawn in that frame.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Ajay » Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:36 am

Kakarotto92 wrote:I wonder why they removed Beerus' snout in the third image, he looks weird without it plus there was nothing wrong with the way he was drawn in that frame.
I'm pretty sure whoever took these shots just snapped them at the exact same timecodes. The timing probably changed due to the corrections (there are other examples of this happening, too), so Beerus is mid-headturn when he took the shot. I imagine the final key-frame is still in tact.
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