Goku and Vegeta's Sexuality

[John Doe]

Yeah yeah, a topic like this may makes some eyes roll, but we should all be capable of having an actual discussion about Goku and Vegeta's sexuality (well, some of us, at least )

Goku:

Before his marriage to Chi Chi we get no indication that he's sexually interested in any girl, whatsoever.

Why would Goku be interested in human girls? They are not the same species. Even though kid and teen Goku didn't know that he was a saiyan it doesn't change him biologically. Goku has never met a pureblooded female saiyan (who isn't his blood relative) and we don't know what will happen if he does meet one.
Vegeta's comment about female saiyans in the new chapter of DB Super is foreshadowing... something. And Akira Toriyama himself confirmed that Goku doesn't see ChiChi and the kids as a real family but only as companions and that saiyans don't understand what a family is. We now know that there are saiyans in Universe 6.
I know that DB Super is a kids show and I don't expect to see Goku have an affair with some saiyan woman from Universe 6 but I can't completely rule it out.

[Chuquita]

Toriyama doesn't write romance, so taking that into consideration, my thoughts on the Uni 6 Team Champa female saiyans if his team really will have female saiyans on it:

Theory 1:
-in Uni 6, Bulma and Chi-Chi are saiyans while Gokû and Vegeta are humans (but dead humans, because all the Uni 6 humans were killed).

Theory 2:
-in Uni 6, either Gokû or Vegeta (or both) are still saiyan, but were born female instead of male

Theory 3:
-there are female saiyans on Champa's team that have absolutely no relation to any current characters and are just random female saiyan OC's (which would be boring to me, but I'm probably one of the few on that. I get the feeling lots of people would like to see new characters who are female saiyans.)

Theory 4:
-the Team Champa female saiyans are unexpected counterparts, like having Lunch be born saiyan, or having Raditz (or even Nappa) born female.

Theory 5:
-Uni 6 Gine is on Champa's team, but Uni 6 Gine is the opposite in personality from Uni 7 Gine and thus a lot more typical-saiyan-like.

[John Doe]

Toriyama doesn't write romance, so taking that into consideration, my thoughts on the Uni 6 Team Champa female saiyans if his team really will have female saiyans on it:

Theory 2:
-in Uni 6, either Gokû or Vegeta (or both) are still saiyan, but were born female instead of male

It would be very boring and predictable but I can totally see this happening. And considering some of the alternative scenarios, I hope it's just a female Goku and a female Vegeta. It could be something much worse, such as...

Theory 5:
-Uni 6 Gine is on Champa's team, but Uni 6 Gine is the opposite in personality from Uni 7 Gine and thus a lot more typical-saiyan-like.

I hope not. I really, truly hope that Gine doesn't appear in this multiverse tournament in any way, shape, or form. Unfortunately there's always a chance of this happening but she probably won't be a fighter in the Tournament. I can totally imagine a Universe 6 where Gine and Kakarotto (and Raditz) are basically "Paragus and Broly 2.0" (just not evil) and the only surviving saiyans in their universe. I know that Toriyama doesn't care about anime filler characters and won't have Cooler as the "Freeza" of Universe 6 but Kuriza could very well be the "Freeza" of Universe 6.

As much as I hate the idea of Goku's mother being a special snowflake, nice, gentle saiyan I can totally see Toriyama doing something like this. A universe in which Gine escaped with Kakarotto from Planet Vegeta but instead of going to Earth they end up going to the planet where kid Raditz was at. And then... Gine's kind, gentle personality influences her two sons to become nice guys. And... she was pregnant with Bardock's 3rd child when she escaped from Planet Vegeta and this 3rd child is a girl...

I hope that Toriyama doesn't do anything like this. But he might.

[Chuquita]

That's why I have the Gine theory at the bottom of the list. Aside from "Hey, here's Gokû's mom, her personality's kinda like Gohan's, only without the love of scholarly pursuits; and Bardock's her Videl in the tsundere-love-interest way, but also her Piccolo in a constantly-rescued-her-from-danger-when-she'd-freeze-up-in-panic way". there's just not that much to her in terms of interest for me.

Re: Theory 2
I want a female!Gokû/Princess Kakarrotto just to counterbalance the whole "Uni 7 Gokû and Vegeta happily agree not to ever work together as a team" with the idea of "Uni 6 Vegeta and female!Gokû work so well together they are in a relationship". Also because I want to see how badly Uni 7 Vegeta would flip out over this. :3
(I abandoned wanting Princess Vegeta and "Kakarrotto, Prince of all Saiyans" because I think Vegeta's dealt with enough of that vein of things via Fukushima and the "filler" arc this past month or so.)

[LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta]

The way I see it, Goku doesn't care for sex very much. It's due to his sole interest in fighting and the fact he's so innocent. Also his mind doesn't really think of that kind of stuff. I wouldn't be surprised if he only had sex twice in his entire life. I felt him being with Chi-Chi was forced and was a VERY bad part In the series which led to a lot of annoying outcomes from it.

Vegeta however thinks more mature if you will, and the fact he's probably working out so much, getting testosterone and hormones working up led him to Bulma's bed. I mean on some real shit, I think majority of us here wouldn't really pass up a chance on Bulma. Most find her attractive, inside and out.
However his romance towards her felt like it was just put there, with no real development towards it's growth. Only recently we got insight on why they love their woman and the reason isn't that good for some.

Overall I feel toriyama didn't write their romances as well as they should, and that's how I feel about their sexuality if you will. If I were to write Vegeta falling for Bulma I'd have scenes of him getting better workout set ups from Bulma, causing him to admire her helping him surpass Kakarot(which he's never had before) and admire her intelligence. Then he notices she doesn't give up on making a tough machine to help him and he realizes she's strong willed too and is quite similar to her in that regard. Bulma obviously makes the first move blah blah blah the end.

The real question is will we ever see scratch (Dr. Brief''s cat) ever end up with Beerus. They're meant for each other. <3

[visser]

I have seen a few people say saiyans only have sex for reproduction, is there anything official that says that? That would mean trunks was planned, and i highly doubt trunks was planned.

[Doctor.]

Goku and Vegeta are soulmates. They'll get married once their pesky wives are out of the way.

[TheUltimateVegito]

Akira Toriyama himself confirmed that Goku doesn't see ChiChi and the kids as a real family but only as companions and that saiyans don't understand what a family is. We now know that there are saiyans in Universe 6.
I know that DB Super is a kids show and I don't expect to see Goku have an affair with some saiyan woman from Universe 6 but I can't completely rule it out.

To be fair, it wouldn't make sense for him to have an affair either way. Saiyans simply don't romance. Whether it be from their own species or humans. My earlier post on this topic goes more in-depth on that.

[foxfang4]

There's a scene in Super (recently) when Trunks gives Mai mouth-to-mouth. I think it's very telling based on the way both Goku and Vegeta react.

Goku: confirms that he basically never kissed Chi Chi (even once) when he wonders why Trunks and Mai's lips touched.

Vegeta: is dumbfounded at Goku's question. The way he reacts implies that Vegeta not only makes out with Bulma, but does it often. Also, there's that scene when Goku accidentally teleports to Bulma's room as she's half-naked with Vegeta right behind her. It showed them really living like a "couple" would. So, I think Vegeta basically behaves like a regular human male. He just prefers fighting to sex.

[RandomGuy96]

Vegeta obviously raped tons of aliens, including Arlians, Saibamen, Namekians, and whatever Gure was. Then he ate them.

[Soppa Saia People]

Vegeta obviously raped tons of aliens, including Arlians, Saibamen, Namekians, and whatever Gure was. Then he ate them.

I guess Vegeta likes eating species

The anthropomorphic people disappeared in Z. What happened to them?

Vegeta ate them.

[nickzambuto]

The idea that Vegeta has zero sex drive and lost his virginity to Bulma never made sense to me. We know he didn't care about Bulma as a person even after Trunks was conceived, yet he still took the time out of his training to have sex with her. It obviously wasn't for her since he didn't care about her, that must mean he wanted it.

[floofychan333]

Goku's too weirdly immature to really know or care about that kind of stuff so he's asexual, I guess. I don't really think about Vegeta's sexuality, but I know he's not an ace because he doesn't recoil from romantic contact like Goku did with Chi-Chi.

[Captain Strawberry]

Ask Toriyama in a interview

[Steven Bloodriver]

Yeah yeah, a topic like this may makes some eyes roll, but we should all be capable of having an actual discussion about Goku and Vegeta's sexuality (well, some of us, at least )

Goku:

Before his marriage to Chi Chi we get no indication that he's sexually interested in any girl, whatsoever. Now even though he didn't see one until his tween years, that doesn't mean he shouldn't feel some sort of attraction after a while. This makes me think that either by his Saiyan genes or him just being Goku, he's more or less asexual as a teen. After marriage, though, we do see some glimpses of him having feelings for Chi Chi but they're never really explained to be actual romantic or him just caring for her as a companion and person he's close to. To make things worse, there's the Toriyama quote of him saying Goku doesn't see his family as wife, son, etc. but as companions. Even in the new chapter of the Super manga where he says he likes Chi Chi it's just that, like. Not love, care for, he's "into her", etc.

As an adult he also never shows any signs of libido or even caring about "female anatomy" save for the time he told Elder Kai that Bulma has bigger "chi chis" than Chi Chi

Also, he has no issue staying dead and thus not getting "any" from his wife or being away from her for long periods of time. From this I can only take away that Goku is essentially asexual. Now to be fair, Dragon Ball isn't the type of show that focuses on sex (save for jokes and gags) and Goku could genuinely enjoy sex, but the way his character is portrayed, I don't think he cares about it. He may find it fun in the moment but it's so far behind training, fighting and food as an interest that really he doesn't give two shits about it. I will say that he does like Chi Chi a lot. Not as a wife but as a very close companion which can be seen when he picks her up after getting better from the heart virus.


Vegeta: In real life and history, many warriors and barbarians had large sex drives and regularly raped while pillaging and conquering, but are the Saiyans like that? I say no, due to Toriyama's own comments on love in Saiyan couples being rare and only happening for children and the Saiyans not being that populous of a species. Now the second part can be explained by them fighting and dying so much, but if anything more kids = more warriors so their small population would be a bad thing not a benefit. It seems like it's just Saiyan biology to value fighting way more than sex. The way I see it, when Vegeta was going around exterminating species, he could've gotten their women if he wanted to, but he knew he would've had more fun killing them. I actually believe that Bulma is the first girl he ever got with due to his genocidal behavior and his obsession with one day beating Frieza and battling.

As an earthling, though, I see Vegeta as enjoying sex as much as any other guy which is a result of:
1. Him adopting more human emotions
2. Bulma having a high sex drive herself.

Also, unlike Goku, Vegeta actually loves her even though he'd still have a problem saying those words. He'll show it through his actions and say other words to dance around it, but he does.

Both Goku and Vegeta do in fact spend time with their wives, it is just that Akira Toriyama is adamant in showing it.