The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by buutenks » Fri Dec 04, 2015 11:27 am

LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:
Mystic Gohan Vs super buu base+ssj3 gotenks (No dicking around)

Golden Freeza Vs beerus (Freeza is weaker but by not that much % wise and he's a dirty fighter)

Buuhan Golden Freeza absorbed Vs SSjgod Goku and or Vegeta
1.They double team him and super buu absorbs him in the end,only way to win is if they can absorb him.Considering how easily buu absorbs people and absorbed gohan i think he can do it again if gotenks is distracting him.

2.Beerus is still stronger,if u go by the 15/10/6,golden freeza would be an 8 or 7.5 but since he loses power,hed drop below that and get his butt kicked even faster.So for now he loses even if he didnt have stamina issues,since beerus doesnt have any obvious weaknesses like goku does.

3.Buuhan with golden freeza absorbed easily.
Hellspawn28 wrote:SSj Gotenks (pre-ROSAT) vs. Paikuhan

Who wins?
Paikuhan owned SPC,however so could ssj1 gotenks and proly easier,so I'm leaning towards ssj gotenks.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SeDan95 » Fri Dec 04, 2015 3:10 pm

Hello all :wave: , for my first post on this forum I gathered some fights(hopefully not discussed many times already), which can be interesting.
USSJ Future Trunks vs LSSJ Broly (first movie)
SSJG Goku (BoG) vs Buuhan
Mystic Gohan vs Final Form Frieza (RoF)
SSJ2 Vegeta (BoG - with the Bulma slap anger boost) vs Kid Buu
Future Gohan vs Future Imperfect Cell
Base God Goku (RoF) vs Super Janemba
Pikkon vs Majin Vegeta
A17 vs A 18

My opinion: 1. Trunks, 2. Goku, 3. Gohan sligtly, 4. Vegeta if he can finish Buu in the short period of time, 5. Cell might win, 6. God Goku, 7. Majin Vegeta, 8. i dont know about this one, I'm really curious who is the stronger of the two.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Pocket-God » Fri Dec 04, 2015 3:35 pm

SeDan95 wrote:Hello all :wave: , for my first post on this forum I gathered some fights(hopefully not discussed many times already), which can be interesting.
USSJ Future Trunks vs LSSJ Broly (first movie)
SSJG Goku (BoG) vs Buuhan
Mystic Gohan vs Final Form Freeza (RoF)
SSJ2 Vegeta (BoG - with the Bulma slap anger boost) vs Kid Buu
Future Gohan vs Future Imperfect Cell
Base God Goku (RoF) vs Super Janemba
Paikuhan vs Majin Vegeta
A17 vs A 18
USSJ Future Trunks vs LSSJ Broly: Broly Reks, just like he did the in the movie
SSJG Goku (BoG) vs Buuhan: Probably Goku
Mystic Gohan vs Final Form Freeza: Gohan
SSJ2 Vegeta (BoG - with the Bulma slap anger boost) vs Kid Buu: Kid Buu
Future Gohan vs Future Imperfect Cell: Cell...maybe
Base God Goku (RoF) vs Super Janemba: Janemba
Paikuhan vs Majin Vegeta: Vegeta
A17 vs A 18: 17

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Lord Beerus » Fri Dec 04, 2015 3:39 pm

SeDan95 wrote:Hello all :wave: , for my first post on this forum I gathered some fights(hopefully not discussed many times already), which can be interesting.
USSJ Future Trunks vs LSSJ Broly (first movie)
SSJG Goku (BoG) vs Buuhan
Mystic Gohan vs Final Form Freeza (RoF)
SSJ2 Vegeta (BoG - with the Bulma slap anger boost) vs Kid Buu
Future Gohan vs Future Imperfect Cell
Base God Goku (RoF) vs Super Janemba
Paikuhan vs Majin Vegeta
A17 vs A 18
- If speed is not an issue, Broly gets stomped.
- Godku one shots Buuhan
- Freeza wrecks Gohan
- Vegeta decimates Kid Boo
- I see Cell using cunning and strategy to ambush Gohan and pull out the victory.
- Goku finger flicks Janemba
- Pikkon couldn't take town FPSSJ Goku, so I'm backing Vegeta to takes this quickly
- According to the manga and supplementary material #17 > #18.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by LightBing » Fri Dec 04, 2015 5:26 pm

First of all this isn't to anyone specific. In the recent couple of months it is common, people answering match-ups with two or three words; sometimes only putting the name of the winner. This goes against the point of this community, such answers barely provide any discussion. It's just people making lists...
Even in the cases were the winner is clear, it isn't that hard to write a sentence saying: "Fighter A wins because the power gap is too large for Fighter B to inflict any damage. So, Fighter A murderstomps."
I'm not asking for essays, but please justify what "mid-difficulty" means and other vocabulary of that sort.

Sorry about this little rant, lately I've been unmotivated to answer this thread or to try thinking of interesting fights, because of the reasons posted above. I guess this is mini-modding. Sorry about that Kaboom.

SeDan95 wrote:SSJG Goku (BoG) vs Buuhan
SSJ2 Vegeta (BoG - with the Bulma slap anger boost) vs Kid Buu
Future Gohan vs Future Imperfect Cell
A17 vs A 18
99%/1% - Goku is many times stronger than Boohan and he has knowledge of his absorption technique, making the latter very unlikely to succeed. I give 1% chance to Boohan, only for the slightest possibility he creates a plan that allows the absorption.

100%/0% - As with the previous match, there's a big power difference. The difference is Vegeta being furious. I see him finishing the fight in seconds, which wouldn't allow for the weaker Kid Boo to try absorption, his only chance.

0%/100% - I think it wasn't mentioned if Future Imperfect Cell had absorbed a lot of people. Even if he didn't his power should rival the Future Androids. These Androids murdered Gohan easily. Gohan has no chance whatsoever.

40%/60% - #17 has a power advantage, how much isn't specified. I would assume it isn't significant. The fight would be a grind, both siblings wouldn't lose any power or receive any damage. For a winner to emerge, a concentrated attack would have to hit.
That's why I give a slight edge to #18. She seems a much smarter fighter than her brother and cautious, proven by her quick action to finish the fight with the SSJ kids. While he has a cocky demeanor, which would be enhanced by his knowledge that he's more powerful than #18.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SeDan95 » Fri Dec 04, 2015 6:20 pm

LightBing wrote:First of all this isn't to anyone specific. In the recent couple of months it is common, people answering match-ups with two or three words; sometimes only putting the name of the winner. This goes against the point of this community, such answers barely provide any discussion. It's just people making lists...
Even in the cases were the winner is clear, it isn't that hard to write a sentence saying: "Fighter A wins because the power gap is too large for Fighter B to inflict any damage. So, Fighter A murderstomps."
I'm not asking for essays, but please justify what "mid-difficulty" means and other vocabulary of that sort.

Sorry about this little rant, lately I've been unmotivated to answer this thread or to try thinking of interesting fights, because of the reasons posted above. I guess this is mini-modding. Sorry about that Kaboom.
I'm sorry, I'm kind a new here, but thank you for enlightening me, I adapt myself for this and change in the future. :mrgreen:
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by LightBing » Fri Dec 04, 2015 6:33 pm

SeDan95 wrote:I'm sorry, I'm kind a new here, but thank you for enlightening me, I adapt myself for this and change in the future. :mrgreen:
Please don't apologize SeDan95, this wasn't directed at you. I'm not calling out anyone, just pointing out the direction I think the thread is taking.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Hugo Boss » Fri Dec 04, 2015 7:41 pm

LightBing wrote:First of all this isn't to anyone specific. In the recent couple of months it is common, people answering match-ups with two or three words; sometimes only putting the name of the winner. This goes against the point of this community, such answers barely provide any discussion. It's just people making lists...
Even in the cases were the winner is clear, it isn't that hard to write a sentence saying: "Fighter A wins because the power gap is too large for Fighter B to inflict any damage. So, Fighter A murderstomps."
I'm not asking for essays, but please justify what "mid-difficulty" means and other vocabulary of that sort.

Sorry about this little rant, lately I've been unmotivated to answer this thread or to try thinking of interesting fights, because of the reasons posted above. I guess this is mini-modding. Sorry about that Kaboom.
A bit off-topic, but this is the same sentiment that I have. :|

Interesting noting that, a page ago, Mr. Toriyama pretty much answered in that interview he doesn't know how to describe Boo's battle power. His abilities are what made him special anyway.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ahill1 » Fri Dec 04, 2015 8:58 pm

General Rildo is stronger than Boohan, so he'd vaporize Chibi Boo.

Vegeta ( Arrival of Trunks ) vs. Goku base ( vs Freeza )

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Post by Lord Beerus » Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:09 pm

ahill1 wrote:General Rildo is stronger than Boohan, so he'd vaporize Chibi Boo.

Vegeta ( Arrival of Trunks ) vs. Goku base ( vs Freeza )
Hmm, now this is actually a bit of a tough battle. Considering the amount of time that Vegeta spent in space, I would imagine, knowing that Goku had become essentially the strongest in the universe, he would at some point train, because that's in Vegeta's character to do so, especially at that time. But I don't think even through the training regime Vegeta would put himself through, it would be enough to close the gap between him and Goku from when he fought Freeza. So I'm siding with Goku on this one.

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Post by DanielSSJ » Fri Dec 04, 2015 11:03 pm

ahill1 wrote:General Rildo is stronger than Boohan, so he'd vaporize Chibi Boo.

Vegeta ( Arrival of Trunks ) vs. Goku base ( vs Freeza )
I'd give the advantage to Goku. Despite being the exercize nut that Vegeta is nowadays, he probably didn't do much training until after Freeza's defeat.
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Post by KaiserAcedia » Fri Dec 04, 2015 11:13 pm

In a battle 75 millions years before, who would win?
Boo or Beerus.

In an all vs all fight and the assumption that everyone has the same Power Level (King Piccolo Saga 180PL). The rules are the same as in a Tenkaichi Budōkai, except that flying is prohibited. Who would be victorious.
Participants are: Goku, Gohan, Vegeta, Krillin, Piccolo, Master Roshi and Tenshinhan. All of them are adults.

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Post by DanielSSJ » Sat Dec 05, 2015 12:13 am

KaiserAcedia wrote:In a battle 75 millions years before, who would win?
Boo or Beerus.

In an all vs all fight and the assumption that everyone has the same Power Level (King Piccolo Saga 180PL). The rules are the same as in a Tenkaichi Budōkai, except that flying is prohibited. Who would be victorious.
Participants are: Goku, Gohan, Vegeta, Krillin, Piccolo, Master Roshi and Tenshinhan. All of them are adults.
1. Beerus. I don't think that it is implied that he was that much weaker back then.
2. Tough one. The "no kill" rule negates the Kienzan or the Makankosappo. Even if Roshi has the same power level as everyone else, I'm willing to bet he would run out of gass sooner, based on his age. I'd proabably go with Goku, just because of what an absolute genius at fighting he is. But it could pretty much go to anybody
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Draconic » Sat Dec 05, 2015 7:24 am

KaiserAcedia wrote:
In an all vs all fight and the assumption that everyone has the same Power Level (King Piccolo Saga 180PL). The rules are the same as in a Tenkaichi Budōkai, except that flying is prohibited. Who would be victorious.
Participants are: Goku, Gohan, Vegeta, Krillin, Piccolo, Master Roshi and Tenshinhan. All of them are adults.
If everybody is of equal power, I think Krillin takes this. He was always the one who, against all odds managed to hold his own in fights much over his head, like vs Piccolo, the Sayians or Frieza. And since he managed to do it even though he was much weaker than his opponents, at equal power he should prove his actual incredible fighting skills.

Alternativley, Tenshinhan is the other big favorite. Troughout DB he was shown as the greatest figthing master, causing Roshi to be confident enough in the new generation to quit his fighting life. He has many techniques and his Kikoho is just OP. He already won a Tournament when he was at equal power to Goku, and nobody in that list is as skilled in battle as the main guy everybody relies on.
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Post by Birusu16 » Sat Dec 05, 2015 9:04 am

LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:
DBZAOTA482 wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote:SSj Gotenks (pre-ROSAT) vs. Paikuhan

Who wins?
Gotenks finger-flicks.

Paikuhan damaged kid buu,Gotenks ssj3 psot roast couldn't do that.

Mystic Gohan Vs super buu base+ssj3 gotenks (No dicking around)

Golden Freeza Vs beerus (Freeza is weaker but by not that much % wise and he's a dirty fighter)

Buuhan Golden Freeza absorbed Vs SSjgod Goku and or Vegeta
1. Gohan. Both are far weaker than Gohan, so them teaming up wouldn't make any difference at all.
2. Beerus with ease. Toriyama already stated Freeza can't defeat Beerus no matter what he does. It was also said by Whis that the best Goku and Vegeta could do against Beerus was match him if they teamed up while if they teamed up against Freeza they'd slaughter him according to Whis and Beerus.
3. Goku and Vegeta. Buu makes no difference here and Goku and Vegeta are said to be capable of taking down Golden Freeza with ease if they team up.

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Post by Pocket-God » Sat Dec 05, 2015 4:02 pm

So i was just busy thinking that Tagoma doesn't really have to be stronger than Cell to wreck the Z Fighters like he did/is going to. I personally think he's somewhere between 2nd form and Perfect(Pre-explosion zenkai) but now i wanna know how strong everyone else thinks he is. so here goes

Tagoma vs Initial 1st form Cell (In other words, when he fought piccolo)
Tagoma vs 1st form Cell post absorbing ginger town's population (In other words, when he fought 16)
Tagoma vs 2nd form Cell
Tagoma vs 3rd from/perfect Cell
Tagoma vs Super Perfect Cell (In other words, when he came back after exploding)

But honestly depending on how he does against Gotenks he could possibly be near Fat Buu's level :shock:

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Post by buutenks » Sat Dec 05, 2015 10:45 pm

Pocket-God wrote:So i was just busy thinking that Tagoma doesn't really have to be stronger than Cell to wreck the Z Fighters like he did/is going to. I personally think he's somewhere between 2nd form and Perfect(Pre-explosion zenkai) but now i wanna know how strong everyone else thinks he is. so here goes

Tagoma vs Initial 1st form Cell (In other words, when he fought piccolo)
Tagoma vs 1st form Cell post absorbing ginger town's population (In other words, when he fought 16)
Tagoma vs 2nd form Cell
Tagoma vs 3rd from/perfect Cell
Tagoma vs Super Perfect Cell (In other words, when he came back after exploding)

But honestly depending on how he does against Gotenks he could possibly be near Fat Buu's level :shock:
Well,he survived ssj gotenks headbutt to the crotch,which was amusing.

Full power piccolo couldnt even flinch tagoma,considering piccolo held his own against the cell jrs,id say he was proly around vegeta and trunks lvl during the cell games,if not more powerful considering piccolo doesnt slack off.So far more powerful than ussj vegeta that fought semi perfect cell.

So id say at lowest hes FP perfect cell level possibly being SPC level at max.After ginyu takes over id say he goes up to buu saga territory,basically ssj2.5 not as strong as ssj3 but stronger than ssj2.

Which would also make ssj gohan above ssj3s but still weaker than his buu saga mystic self,since obviously he didnt train so he should be weaker than he was during that time.

But what i dont get is,gohan has ssj2 style hair with no electricity,so is this intentional to showcase his hybrid mystic power or toriyama just forgot that ssj2 has electricity?

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Khin » Sun Dec 06, 2015 6:48 am

- Base Gohan (DBS) vs. MSSJ Goku (Cell Games)

- SSJ Gohan (DBS) vs. SSJ Gotenks (DBS)

- Ginyu (Tagomas Body) vs. SSJ2 Majin Vegeta

- Tagoma (DBS) vs. Shisami (ROF Movie)

- First From Freeza (DBS) vs. Ultimate Gohan (Buu Saga)

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Post by Noah » Sun Dec 06, 2015 10:37 am

SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:- Base Gohan (DBS) vs. MSSJ Goku (Cell Games)

- SSJ Gohan (DBS) vs. SSJ Gotenks (DBS)

- Ginyu (Tagomas Body) vs. SSJ2 Majin Vegeta

- Tagoma (DBS) vs. Shisami (ROF Movie)

- First Form Freeza (DBS) vs. Ultimate Gohan (Buu Saga)
All the BP scalling in DBS is confusing as hell, but I think I gonna give a try:

- SSJ Gohan (DBS) must be somewhat below his Mystic self, so he probably still has power enough to defeat Gotenks, but if it's Super Gotenks 3, then Gohan is wrecked.

- People are saying that Tagoma got a boost after CHANGE bodies with Ginyu, something like a SSJ2-tier, I don't think so. I think he's beyond because SSJ Gohan (DBS) = SSJ3 Goku (Z), IMO... So Majin Vegeta gets a painful beating.

- Tagoma before Ginyu must be somewhat above a FPSSJ-tier, I guess... Gohan in ROF effortlessly one-shotted Shisami, so Tagoma handles him pretty easily in this match.

- Hard to know. I don't want to think that Freeza is now above SSJ3-tier in his FIRST FORM, it feels unreal to me, but he probably is, maybe on par with Ultimate Gohan so I think is gonna be a good match, that probably Freeza would be victorious.
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Post by ZombieVito » Sun Dec 06, 2015 9:34 pm

SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:- Base Gohan (DBS) vs. MSSJ Goku (Cell Games)

- SSJ Gohan (DBS) vs. SSJ Gotenks (DBS)

- Ginyu (Tagomas Body) vs. SSJ2 Majin Vegeta

- Tagoma (DBS) vs. Shisami (ROF Movie)

- First From Freeza (DBS) vs. Ultimate Gohan (Buu Saga)
Funny, I have Piccolo stronger than this Goku so Gohan wins very easily.
Poor Gotenks needs SSJ3 to put somewhat of a fight.
As of right now I have Ginyu at enraged SSJ2 Gohan's level. This might change later on.
No question about it, Tagoma one shots him.
We already saw this yesterday. Gohan gets tortured like a bitch.

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