The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Hellspawn28]

Tagoma (DBS) vs. Aka

Who wins?

[Battousai]

So i was just busy thinking that Tagoma doesn't really have to be stronger than Cell to wreck the Z Fighters like he did/is going to. I personally think he's somewhere between 2nd form and Perfect(Pre-explosion zenkai) but now i wanna know how strong everyone else thinks he is. so here goes

Tagoma vs Initial 1st form Cell (In other words, when he fought piccolo)
Tagoma vs 1st form Cell post absorbing ginger town's population (In other words, when he fought 16)
Tagoma vs 2nd form Cell
Tagoma vs 3rd from/perfect Cell
Tagoma vs Super Perfect Cell (In other words, when he came back after exploding)

But honestly depending on how he does against Gotenks he could possibly be near Fat Buu's level

Tagoma stomps.
Tagoma still stomps.
Tagoma wins, easily.
Cell wins with mild difficulty.
Cell wins, easily.

[Battousai]

- Base Gohan (DBS) vs. MSSJ Goku (Cell Games)

- SSJ Gohan (DBS) vs. SSJ Gotenks (DBS)

- Ginyu (Tagomas Body) vs. SSJ2 Majin Vegeta

- Tagoma (DBS) vs. Shisami (ROF Movie)

- First From Freeza (DBS) vs. Ultimate Gohan (Buu Saga)

SSJ Gohan wins.
If Gotenks can keep up with the fusion for 30m, he wins. I highly doubt the can mantain the fusion for that long, tough.
Majin Vegeta wins with low difficulty.
Tagoma one shots.
My money's on Gohan. But the fight will be very hard.

[Hugo Boss]

Tagoma (DBS) vs. Aka

Who wins?

Tagoma was taken down in one hit by Gotenks, while Aka was able to fight back. Not to mention Aka was stated once to be on par with Freeza, something that even Ginyu didn't achieve yet.

[Hellspawn28]

Current Goku (DBS) vs. Doctor Manhattan from Watchmen

Who wins?

[apex_pretador]

Mystic Gohan Vs super buu base+ssj3 gotenks (No dicking around)

Golden Freeza Vs beerus (Freeza is weaker but by not that much % wise and he's a dirty fighter)

Buuhan Golden Freeza absorbed Vs SSjgod Goku and or Vegeta

Gohan
Beerus stomps
Either saiyan can win.

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Hello all , for my first post on this forum I gathered some fights(hopefully not discussed many times already), which can be interesting.
USSJ Future Trunks vs LSSJ Broly (first movie)
SSJG Goku (BoG) vs Buuhan
Mystic Gohan vs Final Form Freeza (RoF)
SSJ2 Vegeta (BoG - with the Bulma slap anger boost) vs Kid Buu
Future Gohan vs Future Imperfect Cell
Base God Goku (RoF) vs Super Janemba
Paikuhan vs Majin Vegeta
A17 vs A 18

My opinion: 1. Trunks, 2. Goku, 3. Gohan sligtly, 4. Vegeta if he can finish Buu in the short period of time, 5. Cell might win, 6. God Goku, 7. Majin Vegeta, 8. i dont know about this one, I'm really curious who is the stronger of the two.

Broly destroys
Goku (mismatch)
Another mismatch in favour of frieza (even in first form)
Vegeta
Cell easily
Goku
Vegeta
#17
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General Rildo is stronger than Boohan, so he'd vaporize Chibi Boo.

Vegeta ( Arrival of Trunks ) vs. Goku base ( vs Freeza )

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Kaioken is enough. Anyways, I have goku base (when he turned SS) > vegeta when trunks arrived

So i was just busy thinking that Tagoma doesn't really have to be stronger than Cell to wreck the Z Fighters like he did/is going to. I personally think he's somewhere between 2nd form and Perfect(Pre-explosion zenkai) but now i wanna know how strong everyone else thinks he is. so here goes

Tagoma vs Initial 1st form Cell (In other words, when he fought piccolo)
Tagoma vs 1st form Cell post absorbing ginger town's population (In other words, when he fought 16)
Tagoma vs 2nd form Cell
Tagoma vs 3rd from/perfect Cell
Tagoma vs Super Perfect Cell (In other words, when he came back after exploding)

But honestly depending on how he does against Gotenks he could possibly be near Fat Buu's level

Beats all cells, but loses to fat buu. He was much above piccolo, who MUST be above cell by now in years of training.
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- Base Gohan (DBS) vs. MSSJ Goku (Cell Games)

- SSJ Gohan (DBS) vs. SSJ Gotenks (DBS)

- Ginyu (Tagomas Body) vs. SSJ2 Majin Vegeta

- Tagoma (DBS) vs. Shisami (ROF Movie)

- First From Freeza (DBS) vs. Ultimate Gohan (Buu Saga)

- Base gohan , he still has his kaioshin powerup (although not at his fullest, but still) , but close battle.

- Gohan is mystic in his SS form. He wins.

- This is a battle that can go anywhere. No idea. Tagoma can be anywhere from SPC level to buu level. I'll give it to vegeta though because he has good record of performance in close power disadvantages.

- Tagoma, and this is not even close.

- Frieza easily.
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Tagoma (DBS) vs. Aka

Who wins?

Tagoma easily.
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[ZombieVito]

Base Gohan [RoF arc] vs SS Gotenks [Post RoSaT].
Base Gohan [RoF arc] vs Perfect Cell.

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

Base Gohan [RoF arc] vs SS Perfect Cell.

Cell can become a Super Saiyan? Anywho, Gohan would get stomped in both of your situations in my opinion.

[ZombieVito]

Base Gohan [RoF arc] vs SS Perfect Cell.

Cell can become a Super Saiyan? Anywho, Gohan would get stomped in both of your situations in my opinion.

It's clearly a typo.

[Lord Beerus]

Base Gohan [RoF arc] vs SS Gotenks [Post RoSaT].
Base Gohan [RoF arc] vs Perfect Cell.

- If we're going by Super, Gotenks kicks Gohan's ass six ways to Sunday, considering that Base Gohan is much weaker than Tagoma and Tagoma was hurt pretty badly by Gotenks.
- If we're going by Super, this is much closer fight than it has any right to be. Considering that Tagoma stomped Piccolo, who is in my opinion at Cell Jr. level, and Tagoma kicked Gohan's ass in his base form and Gohan stated that Tagoma is far much stronger than him in his base form, I would say that Cell would take this.

[Noah]

New matches:

- 100% Full Power Freeza (RoF) x Saiyan Beyond God Goku (RoF)

- Super Saiyan 1/2/3 Goku (RoF) x Super Saiyan God Goku (BoG)

Note: would SSJ transformations give Goku a significant increase in his God Base form?

[LightBing]

Base Gohan [RoF arc] vs SS Gotenks [Post RoSaT].
Base Gohan [RoF arc] vs Perfect Cell.

0%/100% - Huge power advantage, I have SSJ Gotenks at SSJ3 Goku level. He rips Gohan to shreds.
20%/80% - I have Base Gohan as strong as his SSJ version during the Cell Games. Cell has the power advantage, but by no means it's a gap that guarantees a stomp. Gohan would need a well place attack to cripple Cell to his level. A finishing attack would also do the trick.

[Blocky]

Ledgic vs Ginyu (Tagomas Body)
Ledgic vs SSJ2 Majin Vegeta, Dabura and Fat Buu
SSGSS4 Gogetto (Fusion of Vegetto And Gogeta) vs Doctor Manhattan
Tagoma (DBS) + Shisami (ROF Movie) Fusion Dance vs SSJ2 Gotenks (Buu Saga)
Kaioken x100 Omega Shenron vs SSJ4 Gogeta
Dark Mr. Satan (Xenoverse) vs LSSJ Broly

[Lord Beerus]

New matches:

- 100% Full Power Freeza (RoF) x Saiyan Beyond God Goku (RoF)

- Super Saiyan 1/2/3 Goku (RoF) x Super Saiyan God Goku (BoG)

Note: would SSJ transformations give Goku a significant increase in his God Base form?

- I still see Goku edging this out even if stamina is not an issue for Freeza. But I have this as a really close fight, as Freeza was certainly holding how on his Final Form against Goku and ROF and the power boost that comes with transforming into his 100% Final Form would give Goku a serious run for his money
- I don't really see the strength of the SSJ transformations making much of a difference. It wasn't the case when in BOG and in ROF Goku never even bothered transforming into a SSJ1, SSJ2 etc. So I'm giving this to SSJG Goku.

[voltlunok]

Time for a couple fun ideas.

A hypothetical Super Evolution King Cold and a Hypothetical Super Evolution Chilled run one at a time, a gauntlet of Start of DB to the end of DBZ. (Kid Buu.) Where do you think they stop?

and

Hypothetical Gold form Cooler vs the Hypothetical Super Evo King Cold and Chilled.

[apex_pretador]

New matches:

- 100% Full Power Freeza (RoF) x Saiyan Beyond God Goku (RoF)

- Super Saiyan 1/2/3 Goku (RoF) x Super Saiyan God Goku (BoG)

Note: would SSJ transformations give Goku a significant increase in his God Base form?

- Frieza needs super saiyan to be beaten, so freeza.

- If SS3 gives similar boost as pre-god, then he may edge out a win due to big powerup from whis training.

Base Gohan [RoF arc] vs SS Gotenks [Post RoSaT].
Base Gohan [RoF arc] vs Perfect Cell.

Gotenks easily
I'd favour cell due to regen and techniques.

[apex_pretador]

New matches:

- DBM team " SS3 vegitto , buu , gast " vs Omega shenron (can't be absorbed)

- Dabura vs BoG Piccolo (he knows about spit)

- Majin vegeta vs M10 broly

- Mr satan vs Brock lesnar

- DBS first form frieza vs team - Super janemba , hirudegarn , gohan-buu and cooler

- 2 Saibamen vs raditz , goku and piccolo (BoZ) , no explosion

[Pocket-God]

New matches:

- DBM team " SS3 vegitto , buu , gast " vs Omega shenron (can't be absorbed)

- Dabura vs BoG Piccolo (he knows about spit)

- Majin vegeta vs M10 broly

- Mr satan vs Brock lesnar

- DBS first form Freeza vs team - Super janemba , hirudegarn , gohan-buu and cooler

- 2 Saibamen vs raditz , goku and piccolo (BoZ) , no explosion

Omega one-shots all of them :V

Dabura probably

Broly easily.

Mr Satan obviously.

Cooler dies horribly, anyone else on the team one-shots Frieza

Raditz solos

[Khin]

New matches:

- DBM team " SS3 vegitto , buu , gast " vs Omega shenron (can't be absorbed)

- Dabura vs BoG Piccolo (he knows about spit)

- Majin vegeta vs M10 broly

- Mr satan vs Brock lesnar

- DBS first form Freeza vs team - Super janemba , hirudegarn , gohan-buu and cooler

-NO idea about multiverse but i heard Multiverse Vegetto is way powerful than the Buu Saga Vegetto and Buu Saga Vegetto = SSJ4 Goku and Zen Buu also is comparable to Vegetto,They stomped Omega Shenlong hard.
-Piccolo is only around Cell Jr. tier while Dabra is at Perfect Cell tier.Dabra takes this 10/10
-Vegeta 10/10,Even Pre Majin Vegeta can take this.
-Based on feats.Satan takes this 9/10
-We have to wait for the next episode on how well Enraged Ultimate Gohan ? fare against Freeza.Currently he one shots everyone but got taken down hard by Buuhan or Hirudegarn

[Kaboom]

Saitama vs Beerus and Champa.

The godly brothers get immensely frustrated when none of their direct attacks seem to work on this mysterious foe, so they "win" by pulling a Freeza and just blowing up the whole planet.

Krillin(Freeza saga) vs. Piccolo(Freeza saga)
[Krillin is at the start of the Freeza fight, Piccolo is pre-Nail assimilation. No Kienzan shenanigans. Who wins?]

I'm going to say Kuririn still has a sizable power edge before Piccolo merges with anyone.

- SSJ Future Trunks vs. Piccolo at the Cell Games.
- SSJ Future Trunks (vs. Imperfect Cell) vs. Piccolo (Buu arc).
- SSJ Son Goten vs. Shisami.
- Jaco vs. Tarble.
- Videl & Mr. Satan (25th Budokai) vs. Spopovich.
- Piccolo, Tenshinhan, Krillin & Yamcha (Saiyan arc) vs. 3 Namekian warriors.
- If Avo and Cado were present during Revival of F and fought the Z-Fighters alongside Freeza's army (and fused into Aka from the start, entering the battle alongside Shisami) would the fight have changed significantly?

— I assume you mean they're both their Cell Games selves? Then Trunks wins, but Piccolo gives him a tough fight.
— Definitely Trunks. I have no doubt he kept improving during those three years, and by the time he killed his Cell he was probably pushing Goku and Gohan's level of power.
— If it's Super-Shisami then Goten probably wins pretty easily. If it's RF-Shisami, whom I assume trained with Freeza like Tagoma did in Super, then Goten probably loses. I think he and kid Trunks were on Piccolo's level back in the Boo arc, but Piccolo's definitely stronger now after another 5 years, and Shisami was strong enough to give him trouble.
— No good way to tell. We can really only guess about both their power levels.
— Videl on her own could already beat up Spopovich pretty handily. The problem is that he's got that zombie-like tenacity and doesn't stay beaten up. Adding Mr. Satan to the fight doesn't really change anything.
— The three young Namekians who fought Dodoria all had PLs of around 3,000, not too far from Piccolo's 3,500. So unless the Earthlings get lucky with some Kikoho or Kienzan action, then the opposing team of Namekians eventually wins. It wouldn't take them long to bring down the Earthlings, before ganging up on Piccolo.
— It probably wouldn't change much. Piccolo or Gohan could still one-hit KO Aka if they needed to.

Ultimate Gohan vs Final form Freeza [RoF].

Could go either way. My gut says Freeza wins though.

Krillin (@ Freeza) vs. Kaioken Goku (@ Ginyu)

In terms of power level, Goku's established at 180,000 while Kuririn's at 75,000. Even if Kuririn's power kept rising during the course of the fight, I think he'd have barely breached 100,000 at best. Goku wins handily, probably even without the Kaio-Ken.

Resurrection F Freeza forms 1,2,3,4 vs Vegito (vs buuhan not ROF) at 100% (so ssj3) not 4 Freeza's but how you think he'd do vs each form
ssjgod goku (super) vs Beerus battle of gods
burter vs jeice
Paikuhan and goku (both from cell games arc) vs Broly movie 8

— I'd say regular SS or SS2 Vegetto (I'm not concerned with hypothetical forms) could take any of Freeza's normal forms, but he's outclassed as soon as Freeza goes gold. If I did give Vegetto SS3, then maybe he could take Golden Freeza too.
— We've got no good reason to think the comparative powers of Goku and Beerus are any different in Super than the 6/10 that Toriyama gave us after Battle of Gods. So the fight unfolds the same way.
— They have about the same power level, so the fight could go either way.
— Paikuhan could probably take the big lug down on his own. Having Goku as backup just guarantees it.

- Shisami (DBS) x 2nd Form Freeza (Namek)
- Tagoma (DBS) x Mr. Boo
- SSJ3 Gotenks x 3rd to Final Form Freeza (RoF)
- SSJ Gohan (Boo Arc) x SSJ Goten & SSJ Trunks (Pre RoSaT)

— Hard to tell since we don't have any good indication of Shisami' strength in Super, but I'm betting it's less than Freeza's was.
— Again, hard to tell, because Tagoma's new strength in Super is mostly compared to Gohan's, but Toei's being vague and non-committal about Gohan's strength as usual.
— My money's on Freeza. His third form might not be enough but his final form almost definitely is.
— The kids have an impressive amount of strength, but they're still not as strong as Gohan who also has much more skill and actual battle experience. If he gets serious then he soundly beats them both at the same time.

SSj Gotenks (pre-ROSAT) vs. Paikuhan

They're probably similar in power (hard to settle on something concrete for Paikuhan), but ol' fish-lips is a dedicated and serious fighter, while Gotenks is almost guaranteed to screw around. I'm gonna give it to Paikuhan.

Mystic Gohan Vs super buu base+ssj3 gotenks (No dicking around)
Golden Freeza Vs beerus (Freeza is weaker but by not that much % wise and he's a dirty fighter)
Buuhan Golden Freeza absorbed Vs SSjgod Goku and or Vegeta

— If the battle dragged on for two long, the two might be able to wear Gohan down. But Gotenks' Super Saiyan 3 is going to vanish after about 5 minutes no matter what, and Gohan can easily hold out until that happens. Then base Gotenks is easily KO'd with a finger-flick and Boo is easy pickings. Gohan wins.
— Freeza still gets his ass kicked.
— Golden Freeza was already a little stronger than SSGSS Goku or Vegeta. Boo's own power is going to increase that edge by a little bit and probably let him win.

USSJ Future Trunks vs LSSJ Broly (first movie)
SSJG Goku (BoG) vs Buuhan
Mystic Gohan vs Final Form Freeza (RoF)
SSJ2 Vegeta (BoG - with the Bulma slap anger boost) vs Kid Buu
Future Gohan vs Future Imperfect Cell
Base God Goku (RoF) vs Super Janemba
Paikuhan vs Majin Vegeta
A17 vs A 18

— Broli is not only stronger, but also doesn't seem to lose any significant speed in his Legendary form like anyone else would in SS Grade 3. So he wins.
— Goku absolutely wrecks Gohan-Boo with even less effort than Vegetto needed. He and Beerus are on a new level of power above anyone previously in Z.
— Ultimate Gohan can probably put up a fight, but Freeza is most likely the winner.
— Vegeta quick and fleeting anger boost isn't potent or long-lasting enough to finish Boo off. He burns himself out and is easy prey for Boo, who's regenerated back to full strength.
— If Gohan couldn't beat the Androids, then I'm betting he can't beat Cell either.
— Hard to get a bead on base post-God Goku's strength. Undetermined.
— Could go either way. It's tough to accurately gauge Paikuhan's power, but in general he seems to be on a rough SS2 level.
— Seventeen is always said to be the stronger of the two, and there's no clear difference in their other skills and abilities. So he wins.

Vegeta ( Arrival of Trunks ) vs. Goku base ( vs Freeza )

Hard to tell, but my gut tells me that Vegeta didn't improve drastically until he kicked the training into overdrive for the Androids, and so Goku still has the edge. It'd be a better fight than it would have been on Namek though.

In a battle 75 millions years before, who would win? Boo or Beerus.

In an all vs all fight and the assumption that everyone has the same Power Level (King Piccolo Saga 180PL). The rules are the same as in a Tenkaichi Budōkai, except that flying is prohibited. Who would be victorious.
Participants are: Goku, Gohan, Vegeta, Krillin, Piccolo, Master Roshi and Tenshinhan. All of them are adults.

— I'm actually going to say Boo. Thanks to Toriyama we know that Beerus was the one who sealed the Elder Kaioshin away back then, and the old dude did imply that whoever did it wasn't as strong/bad as Boo. So I'm betting that Beerus simply wasn't as strong all those eons ago.
— Always bet on Goku in setups like this. Tenshinhan and Muten Roshi are both contenders too.