Vice wrote:At any rate, Beerus is absolutely a Mary sue
I think these are decent points, but I ultimately agree with Doctor.
Besides, Beerus is a GOD, which I think excuses his Mary Sue qualities. It might also be worth noting that despite all of this, Beerus is at most the 3rd strongest character in existence (below Vados and Whis).
But I do dislike the fact that Beerus is being shoehorned into almost every aspect of Dragon Ball lore.
Vice wrote:At any rate, Beerus is absolutely a Mary sue
I think these are decent points, but I ultimately agree with Doctor.
Besides, Beerus is a GOD, which I think excuses his Mary Sue qualities. It might also be worth noting that despite all of this, Beerus is at most the 3rd strongest character in existence (below Vados and Whis).
But I do dislike the fact that Beerus is being shoehorned into almost every aspect of Dragon Ball lore.
You see, the thing about this is that there have many case of characters being shoehorned into Dragon Ball lore ever since the Namek arc.
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Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
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Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
What are everyone's expectation regarding Mr.Boo insertion in the tournament?
I didn't thought much about it at first, him being a character that doesn't resonate with me. That tidbit at the end of last chapter, about Goku and Vegeta reason to like their wives and correspondent reaction from Piccolo. Made me remember Dragon Ball Online and the whole Boo's confused perception of "love", which I find immensely interesting.
He holds potential for some character development. Even if we don't get much, there's always the possibilities of funny interactions. I hope Mr.Toriyama has plans for him and instead of a bench warmer and a measuring stick role.
Just curious about beerus' statement:
" you are the second strongest guy I've ever fought"
We also see beerus has fought champa, so isn't champa the strongest fighter beerus has fought? Or is champa weaker than SSG goku? If yes, it'd mean that the mystery guy is even stronger and it is highly unlikely that U7 team loses.
I feel like Buu is just there so we can have a fight entirely focused on gags. Buu vs Gag Villain in Uni6. I mean, everyone is only going to be in 1 battle each, right? Maximum 2.
...and if that's the case, this fighting portion of the story could be done fairly quickly. It makes me wonder if there's going to be a B-Plot, or something.
I could have gotten into anything...and yet I chose the story aimed at young Japanese boys about martial arts, and later about super-powerful aliens punching each other really hard.
apex_pretador wrote:Just curious about beerus' statement:
" you are the second strongest guy I've ever fought"
We also see beerus has fought champa, so isn't champa the strongest fighter beerus has fought? Or is champa weaker than SSG goku? If yes, it'd mean that the mystery guy is even stronger and it is highly unlikely that U7 team loses.
I think he meant aside from Whis and Champa and maybe Vados. Goku is #2 aside from Champa and Whis.
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With the best fighters at the tournament does that mean they're leaving Gohan behind as the sole (capable) protector of Earth? For the next arc I think that would be a good use of his character...
Scarlet Spider wrote:With the best fighters at the tournament does that mean they're leaving Gohan behind as the sole (capable) protector of Earth? For the next arc I think that would be a good use of his character...
I'm actually kinda hoping that the big announcement this month is a Super movie that takes place during the tournament and a powerful villain shows up and Gohan has to defeat them. The villain obviously wouldn't be God tier, but would be super strong on the scale of the people still on Earth. I think it'd be a fun side story that would work with Super instead of ignoring the current events like the DB and Z movies usually did. Maybe it could also lead to Gohan being up there with Goku and Vegeta again in power in the next arc after Universe 6.
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Scarlet Spider wrote:With the best fighters at the tournament does that mean they're leaving Gohan behind as the sole (capable) protector of Earth? For the next arc I think that would be a good use of his character...
I'm actually kinda hoping that the big announcement this month is a Super movie that takes place during the tournament and a powerful villain shows up and Gohan has to defeat them. The villain obviously wouldn't be God tier, but would be super strong on the scale of the people still on Earth. I think it'd be a fun side story that would work with Super instead of ignoring the current events like the DB and Z movies usually did. Maybe it could also lead to Gohan being up there with Goku and Vegeta again in power in the next arc after Universe 6.
That could be cool, but I'm pretty much expecting just movie version of U6 stuff, wrapping the entire arc in both TV show and movie trilogy format. Toei likes things easy
MozillaVulpix wrote:It makes me wonder if there's going to be a B-Plot, or something.
Bulma and Jaco's search for the Super Dragon Balls.
Could be cool, although I would like it if someone else joined them as well and it wasn't a pure slapstick B-story with no stakes. Too much oppurtunities to fail just like Black STar arc in GT
alakazam^ wrote:When was it stated there would be a trilogy?
It was never stated. Do fans and companies like trilogies tho? They sure do, hence why many novels, games, movies, anime etc are done like that
Chuquita wrote:With all the "make the third into two movies" stuff that happens in the US lately I'd wonder if Toei would split a third DB movie in two.
Oh lord, I hope not. I mean, it's been done well a few times...okay, actually, the only time I can think of that it benefited to split the finale into two movies was the 'first' one to do it, Harry Potter...but I'd just hate to see that trend make it's way over to anime stuff as well.
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Chuquita wrote:With all the "make the third into two movies" stuff that happens in the US lately I'd wonder if Toei would split a third DB movie in two.
Oh lord, I hope not. I mean, it's been done well a few times...okay, actually, the only time I can think of that it benefited to split the finale into two movies was the 'first' one to do it, Harry Potter...but I'd just hate to see that trend make it's way over to anime stuff as well.
Seriously, this Hollywood trend needs to die already. Always ends the same - Part 1 is boring stretched mess. Hobbit trilogy went compeltly bonkers on this splitting it into THREE movies...
JulieYBM wrote:It worked for Shin Kyouto-hen, although I don't expect the production committee to market a film that is 45 minutes long.
True...and I guess there's precedence for Toei as well, kinda, what with the new Digimon Adventure Tri movies. That's probably a bit of a different case though, since it was all originally planned as a series rather than a movie at all, though. Overall though it's still not something I'm clamoring to see happen more often.
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JulieYBM wrote:It worked for Shin Kyouto-hen, although I don't expect the production committee to market a film that is 45 minutes long.
True...and I guess there's precedence for Toei as well, kinda, what with the new Digimon Adventure Tri movies. That's probably a bit of a different case though, since it was all originally planned as a series rather than a movie at all, though. Overall though it's still not something I'm clamoring to see happen more often.
It would really only work if international releases waited for the complete film to be released, too.
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