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Post by Lunatic Fringe » Sat Dec 12, 2015 3:58 pm

And my plan for getting BU in the top spot is slowly coming to fruition...

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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by Doctor. » Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:04 pm

My plan for Resurrection 'F' to stay in the last spots is slowly being crushed.

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:55 pm

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"It's obviously a mistake since even Akira Toriyama himself said he liked the series and Taka even did a voice in Xenoverse, yet the copyright claims are from Toei. I'm sure its just youtube's new retarded ass policy and bots."

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Post by Gaffer Tape » Sat Dec 12, 2015 5:08 pm

I think he was pointing out the absurdity of it to begin with.
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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Sat Dec 12, 2015 5:28 pm

Oh. My bad. Long day.
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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by FortuneSSJ » Sat Dec 12, 2015 6:23 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:Oh. My bad. Long day.
That's not how you thank me for losing my time to printscreen that.
Anyway just another youtube gem, let's move on.
Doctor. wrote:My plan for Resurrection 'F' to stay in the last spots is slowly being crushed.
Its just their opinion. Not any bible. Anyway makes scene, since the movie is great.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Sat Dec 12, 2015 7:12 pm

Doctor. wrote:My plan for Resurrection 'F' to stay in the last spots is slowly being crushed.
Ah well we can still think it's pretty bad considering how it single handedly ruined Dragon Ball's history for me more than Minus did.
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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by Doctor. » Sat Dec 12, 2015 7:14 pm

It's the one DB film that insulted me. Not even Evolution managed that.

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Post by KaiserNeko » Sat Dec 12, 2015 7:17 pm

How, by any stretch, is Res 'F' as awful as Minus?
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Post by Doctor. » Sat Dec 12, 2015 7:27 pm

KaiserNeko wrote:How, by any stretch, is Res 'F' as awful as Minus?
It makes everyone look like an idiot. As in, literally everyone. Goku for not seeing or sensing Sorbet and for being a cocky hypocrite DESPITE being taught that lesson twice already (Beerus and Popo) and trying to preach that whole "don't lower your guard" nonsense to his opponents (Ginyu Force). Piccolo and the others for misusing the Senzu beans so much. Gohan for not sitting for five minutes in a circle and acquiring a God-like power that he'd easily be able to control. Goten and Trunks for not sensing Freeza's ki. And, of course, Freeza himself for not having trained sooner and/or training for longer and mastering his Golden form, which means he learned nothing from the other two (three if you count Beerus) times he was defeated; it's beyond arrogance at this point, it's just idiocy. Really, the only person who seems to retain some of his intelligence in this film is Vegeta, and I still have some problems with his characterization, such as why he somehow cares about his planet.

And this is ignoring all of the other massive writing and technical problems the film has like Whis' time travel plot device, Beerus and Whis' food conversations being a bore, the awful CGI, the uninspired fight choreography, the godawful pacing, the painful score to listen to, and the list goes on and on.
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Post by coola » Sat Dec 12, 2015 7:29 pm

I really like Lord Slug too, yes, it is retelling of King Piccolo, but, i still like it, henchmen had cool powers, and i really like Namekians. I keep wondering, how Japanese audience reacted to False SSJ, it was first ever apperance of SSJ, and it was much closer to what Vegeta/Ginyu/Jeice imagined SSJ to be like, mindless brute who loves to fight.
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Post by MarCas92 » Sat Dec 12, 2015 7:34 pm

Doctor. wrote:It makes everyone look like an idiot. As in, literally everyone. Goku for not seeing or sensing Sorbet and for being a cocky hypocrite DESPITE being taught that lesson twice already (Beerus and Popo) and trying to preach that whole "don't lower your guard" nonsense to his opponents (Ginyu Force). Piccolo and the others for misusing the Senzu beans so much. Gohan for not sitting for five minutes in a circle and acquiring a God-like power that he'd easily be able to control. Goten and Trunks for not sensing Freeza's ki. And, of course, Freeza himself for not having trained sooner and/or training for longer and mastering his Golden form, which means he learned nothing from the other two (three if you count Beerus) he was defeated; it's beyond arrogance at this point, it's just idiocy. Really, the only person who seems to retain some of his intelligence in this film is Vegeta, and I still have some problems with his characterization, such as somehow caring about his planet.

And this is ignoring all of the other massive writing and technical problems the film has like Whis' time travel plot device, Beerus and Whis' food conversations being a bore, the awful CGI, the godawful pacing, the painful score to listen to, and the list goes on and on.
Don't get me wrong, I don't LOVE "F", I place it in the "meh" category with most of the films. Maybe even on the lower end. But even with all the cons you mentioned I feel you're either ignoring or underestimating the pros. Giving some of the spotlight to characters other than Goku and letting the minor players join in on the action, Nakao's performance, some of the fighting is really nicely drawn and exciting, I really like Blue's design and I like the idea of not knowing a lot about it. It's not the best movie by any means, but I don't think it's as bad as you make it out to be. I think the problem is that it's just a movie for casual/American fans who don't care about DB just Z and think everything is "ZOMG! ACTION AND BRUCE FALCONER!"
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Post by Doctor. » Sat Dec 12, 2015 7:43 pm

MarCas92 wrote:Giving some of the spotlight to characters other than Goku and letting the minor players join in on the action
I don't understand this. This is something literally every arc and most of the films do. The arcs give side-plots to the other characters and the films give henchmen that the other characters may or may not defeat. Only difference here is that F brought in Roshi and Tenshinhan, which the films normally don't utilize, and the manga stopped giving much focus after a while. And even so, it's fake spotlight. They contribute nothing. Whether they live or die, defeat Freeza's army or not is irrelevant, because Goku and Vegeta would arrive, kill Freeza and then revive them. That whole segment of the film was pointless fanservice, and it wasn't done well.
MarCas92 wrote:Nakao's performance,
It, along with Ayres' performance while we're at it, was fantastic. But that doesn't save the film from being terrible.
MarCas92 wrote:some of the fighting is really nicely drawn and exciting,
Just the soldier fight, honestly. Goku vs Freeza was plagued with awful CGI and stare-offs, while Vegeta vs Freeza was too short to properly enjoy.
MarCas92 wrote:I really like Blue's design
I do too, it's my favorite transformation, but again, it's something that doesn't save the film. It's just a minor aspect, like Goku and Vegeta's new outfits for example.
MarCas92 wrote:It's not the best movie by any means, but I don't think it's as bad as you make it out to be. I think the problem is that it's just a movie for casual/American fans who don't care about DB just Z and think everything is "ZOMG! ACTION AND BRUCE FALCONER!"
I think I'm not hating on it hard enough. There's a million things in the film that I could criticize. Everything that could have gone wrong did.

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Post by dbzfan7 » Sat Dec 12, 2015 7:47 pm

KaiserNeko wrote:How, by any stretch, is Res 'F' as awful as Minus?
Killed Freeza's backstory and made him into a lazy moron. He's completely aware he isn't top dog in the universe and is apparently fine with it so long as it's just Beerus and Boo being above him. His greatest fear only exists because he's too lazy to just do a couple push ups to make saiyans a complete non issue. Freeza's paranoia is completely unjustified when he himself is a prodigy who could nullify his fears easily. Namek pretty much boils down to Goku got really lucky Freeza is too lazy to do anything or he'd have pretty much been screwed. After losing he still couldn't be bothered to spend a couple sessions of push ups, sit ups, and plenty of juice to make earth a non issue too. He then returns again only to make the same mistake he had on Namek with his 100% state showing he hardly learned anything from before. He instead relies on a back up that he's lucky actually worked, rather than just perfect himself and fix his last weakness as a smart person would have. Then there's the elements of the movie that feel ripped right out of fan fiction and deviantart such as the plot and new forms, but that's my personal opinion as some people don't have those problems. Whis' teachings remind me of Popo's lessons about emptying the mind and not thinking, and Goku has in the manga several times been careful and mentioned keeping his guard up constantly, so it's odd he forgets his own wisdom. Heck I'd say both of those "weaknesses" fit Vegeta more than Goku. Naivety is more Goku's issue as he's easily fooled and too kind for his own good sometimes.

Minus is pretty bad too, but it's 15 pages or so and doesn't effect the story as much as this did. There's also an alternative to Minus which really is the much better back story I can always look too anyways so Minus doesn't mean as much to me. It ruined Bardock but Bardock hardly matters. It ruined the irony of Goku but I guess I don't have it as bad as F since Minus barely has an effect on the series. By that I mean you could forget about that story, and you are not missing anything. It's almost like it didn't happen since none of it really has anything to do with the current series. None of it is mentioned, referenced, or anything. Only Jaco has come to Dragon Ball without the baggage that is Minus casting a cloud over the current events.
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Sat Dec 12, 2015 8:14 pm

Kid Buu wrote:Actually, Vegeta is said to be the strongest in the universe in the Saiyan arc
That was Vegeta's ego talking. He knew that Freeza and The Ginyu Force were stronger then him. I see nothing wrong with Freeza knowing about Buu since he knows about the Legendary Super Saiyan. Not to mention if you want to count Coola, Freeza knew that he was not the strongest in the universe since his older brother was above him. Freeza also has a ego too when he gets annoyed and cocky when he loses.
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Post by FortuneSSJ » Sat Dec 12, 2015 8:38 pm

KaiserNeko wrote:How, by any stretch, is Res 'F' as awful as Minus?
Nothing is worse than Minus. I can agree with you on that.
However I still didn't forgive TFS for leaving, Goku meets Grandpa Gohan at Baba's palace iconic moment, completely out of the previous DBcember. :P
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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Sat Dec 12, 2015 8:41 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote:
KaiserNeko wrote:How, by any stretch, is Res 'F' as awful as Minus?
Nothing is worse than Minus. I can agree with you on that.
What about DBE?
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Post by FortuneSSJ » Sat Dec 12, 2015 8:50 pm

Polyphase Avatron wrote: What about DBE?
Never happened in my timeline.
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Post by Noah » Sat Dec 12, 2015 8:55 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote:However I still didn't forgive TFS for leaving, Goku meets Grandpa Gohan at Baba's palace iconic moment, completely out of the previous DBcember. :P
I agree. That was a miss, this moment was pure emotion :cry:
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