The analogy between Dragon Ball and Star Wars

[Basaku]

Unlike Gt at leas the prequels are canon and spawnee coutless spin off material. Also don't confuse a bad story with bad directing.

Lucas was responsible for both, and both sucked.

[Hellspawn28]

The prequels are 10x better than Gt.

Did GT spawn 6-hour epic Mr. Plinkett reviews? No. Therefore by definition it's not as bad

That's your opinion. Just like prequels, GT had a lot of high hopes and everyone was hoping to be as awesome as DBZ, but end up being let down. A lot of people had high hopes that Episode 1 was going to be as awesome as Star Wars 4-6 and didn't live up to the hype.

[miguelnuva1]

Unlike Gt at leas the prequels are canon and spawnee coutless spin off material. Also don't confuse a bad story with bad directing.

Lucas was responsible for both, and both sucked.

The stories for the prequels were fine, the directing is what held them back. Pick up the novel versions orook up the anti cheese edits.

[MarCas92]

Original Japanese Dragon Ball = Original Theatrical Versions full of artistic integrity that changed the medium.
English Dub= Special Edition with changes and additions that weren't necessary and made an inferior product. However, it is still super popular and some people don't care and haven't even seen the original.

[OmegaRockman]

Lucasfilm won't release the original unaltered trilogy on Blu-ray, Funimation won't release the (complete) original aspect ratio DBZ on Blu-ray.

And the only unaltered version available is on expensive, out-of-print DVDs?

Exactly! Except the Dragon Boxes at least look nice (save for some color issues that others have addressed in the past); on the other hand, from my research I've learned that the Star Wars DVDs with the original theatrical cuts don't look great, using the 1993 Laserdisc masters and aren't even in anamorphic widescreen. I don't feel bad about paying $200 for Dragon Box 2 because it's a quality product that had actual effort put into it. I don't own the GOUT DVDs myself so I can't speak for their quality, but I won't touch them because they reek of Lucas' animosity towards the fanbase that demanded the original cuts' release. So yeah, I'll stick to my VHS's as my legal copies.

[Basaku]

The stories for the prequels were fine, the directing is what held them back. Pick up the novel versions orook up the anti cheese edits.

The stories are weak, inconsequential and nonsensical in every edit and version. The Edits and novels provide slighty better presentation removing the worst stuff like Jar Jar or cheesy Ani lines, but they don't change bad core story ideas like the prophecy, Federation Trade plan that makes no sense, assassination subplot that makes no sense, no sex/love for Jedi for no good reason, Anakin's increadibly weak fall to the dark side and reasoning to put a lightsaber into skulls of children etc etc.

That's your opinion. Just like prequels, GT had a lot of high hopes and everyone was hoping to be as awesome as DBZ, but end up being let down. A lot of people had high hopes that Episode 1 was going to be as awesome as Star Wars 4-6 and didn't live up to the hype.

I don't question GT was a letdown. On the scale of the prequels though?

[Lord Beerus]

Sorry to be off topic, but I just got back from the midnight premiere of the The Force Awakens in jolly old London and it was truly spectacular. A great film for start to finish filled with great action, great drama, great characterisation, a simple and well told plot and nostalgic moments that didn't feel shoehorned in. And better yet, the experience in 3D was actually really good and didn't distract from the film at all. I hope this movie makes more money at the box office than Avatar, because it deserves it. J.J. Abrams, you fucking nailed it.

Two big thumbs up from me.

[Noah]

Sorry to be off topic, but I just got back from the midnight premiere of the The Force Awakens in jolly old London and it was truly spectacular. A great film for start to finish filled with great action, great drama, great characterisation, a simple and well told plot and nostalgic moments that didn't feel shoehorned in. And better yet, the experience in 3D was actually really good and didn't distract from the film at all. I hope this movie makes more money at the box office than Avatar, because it deserves it. J.J. Abrams, you fucking nailed it.

Two big thumbs up from me.

Well, two bigs thumbs up from me too!

The movie was awesome I agree with everything you just said, I believe they had learned with their mistakes in the prequels and we can expect the sequels to be a great trilogy after all!

Shame that I probably can't have the same expectation about Dragon Ball Super


but back on-topic, since nobody talked about yet:

- What if Saiyans were in Star Wars Universe? Could a Jedi/Sith have trouble with them?

[Retan]

Lucky you guys, unfortunately I won't be able to see the force awakens for a couple more days with my family. But the reviews I've seen are all really positive so that's good, and can't wait for my chance to see it here in the U.S!!


Anyway on the saiyan vs. Sith/Jedi are we talking regular early Siayans, or Goku-Vegeta level saiyans?

[Noah]

Lucky you guys, unfortunately I won't be able to see the force awakens for a couple more days with my family. But the reviews I've seen are all really positive so that's good, and can't wait for my chance to see it here in the U.S!!


Anyway on the saiyan vs. Sith/Jedi are we talking regular early Saiyans, or Goku-Vegeta level saiyans?

Just do your best to avoid spoilers, man! Unfortunately I couldn't


Yes, I think it's more fair to compare to early Saiyans (Saiyan-Tuffle War) and later Saiyans with Freeza's army technology, would they give trouble to the Sith/Jedi?