MistareFusion's Dragon Ball Dissection! (Updated 7/6/26!)

[Puto]

Cracked up laughing at "If you're having trouble finding it, it's probably because VegettoEX from Kanzenshuu owns every copy ever made".

[Kid Buu]

I just think Yamcha and co. weren't included since it was just an alternate universe version of the Raditz fight, which they weren't apart of.

[RandomGuy96]

They probably (correctly) thought that they'd just get in the way.

[Kid Buu]

They probably (correctly) thought that they'd just get in the way.

It's not like Toei couldn't exaggerate their strength capabilities, seeing as it doesn't violate their rule book:


"Thou shall not surpass Lord Goku. If said Z-Fighter were to surpass Lord Goku, it must be a dark time where Lord Goku is not active to the story, and Lord Goku shall bury him with his triumph return. If thou children of Lord Goku were to surpass our Lord and Savior in power, that child must be made to look bad so Lord Goku can still look better than them in the end."

[coola]

Comments as i watch:
- DBZ Movie 3 also was tied a little bit with anime series, as it explains where Haiya Dragon comes from, and GT also had Coola among villans returning from hell

Yes, but in the former case, even putting aside the fact that movie 3 is one of the most cannot possibly happen movies of the bunch (although that's a pretty compelling reason), Hire Dragon appearing doesn't imply the events of movie 3 did. But it is pretty head-scratching and one of the many stupid things the Garlic Jr. arc did. As for Coola, you are correct. But while his appearance is certainly more heavily implying at least movie 5 having happened, it's such a quick cameo (right? I've never actually seen it) it could be handwaved away any number of ways. Also, it's GT, and, while I should have been clearer, I was more talking about the DBZ anime. Anyway, that's why I specifically said "explicitly." As in, the TV series literally says (and literally shows clips from the movie) this movie happened.

Thank you for reply, and yes, Coola was just a quick cameo, probably to make this whole scene with past villains look cooler (Sorry, had to )

[Gaffer Tape]

DBD: The Saiyan Arc Part 7!

Merry Christmas! Lots of stuff in this episode, including the end of the fight and the beginning of the final analysis. Check back later today for the conclusion!

[dbzfan7]

I really did like Kaio-Ken too, and at least would have liked if that skill was passed on to other people who could use it. Super Saiyan essentially killed the need for Kaio-Ken, but at least it could be cool if Krillin or other people without transformations used the move. It's unfortunate Kaio-Ken after the Freeza arc up and goes away for good once Goku goes blond.

That whole speech about the characters at the end is what bugs me so much about Gohan's treatment lately. I totally understand authors simply not being interested in certain characters too much anymore, and would prefer them to not focus on a couple characters they may be sick with. I'd love for characters to bow out gracefully, but besides Muten Roshi, I don't think anyone did. Yamcha and Tenshinhan just stop being important and can't really do much, with Tenshinhan at least getting one more bone thrown his way before he's done. Krillin manages to hang on as the every man. Piccolo kinda goes up and down with how important he is. He'll suddenly be important, and then not be at the drop of a hat. Maybe new material may give him something with its teasing, but I doubt it. I like to think he had 1 cool showdown with 17 before being done, without being too embarrassed later on. Gohan had one decent final bow with Boo that would have been good enough, til Super decided to victimize the guy and let him learn nothing at all. Souring him.

I gotta say I appreciate the Saiyan arc more after seeing this dissection. It feels very unique in comparison to other arcs which lost their luster the more I thought about em. I'd really like if a structure like the Saiyan arc came back. Though I do consider the Saiyan arc the current call for supporting cast of Dragon Ball. Afterwards more and more people start dropping like flies til we're left with only Goku and Vegeta remaining as the only relevant characters left.

[RandomGuy96]

It seems like a lot of your criticisms so far have been less "there is something wrong", more "this is good, but it could've been even better!".

[Kid Buu]

Regarding Raditz, I think Saiga made a good point earlier that Raditz implied he could have just countered his tail weaknesses by cutting it off. So it's possible he could have been trolling the entire time.

Merry Christmas

[FoolsGil]

You know, I always kind of felt that Krillin & Yamcha, and Tenshinhan & Piccolo were interchangeable, in the deepest pit of my stomach, but I would have never realized that I knew that if you never said it.

[Soppa Saia People]

Redundant.

[Gaffer Tape]

DBD: The Saiyan Arc Part 8!

And here we are with the finale. And flying. And all that silly Z stuff. And the magic number.

[MarCas92]

Amazing as always! I guess I was wrong! You were so critical in the first 3 parts I could've sworn this was gonna get the 5. Shows what I know. Can't wait for Freeza. Also, why did you choose Freeza and Cell over Namek and Android?

[Kid Buu]

Split probably turned out for the best, at least in the West, since Z's what really took the series off. The early parts just don't seem as popular here as Z or even GT.

Anyway, I'd think it'd be hilarious if Z had used that Gohan title and kept building him to be the main hero until Goku got shoehorned back into the Buu arc.

[Neo-Makaiōshin]

I'm kinda surprised that the Saiyan arc took the Nº9 spot. I personally have the Namek/Freeza arc in that spot but that's just me.

Interested to see the remaining 3 arcs. (At this point it seens very clear Nº1 and Nº3 will belong to either Bu & Android and Cell Arc, if this forum is any indication, those 2 seens to be considered the lowest point the series).

[ekrolo2]

Wow, I never really thought about Toriyama using Piccolo & Gohan as a replacement for Tien & Chiaotzu but it does make a lot of sense now that I've had some time to think about.

[coola]

Amazing job as always, had no idea about that Mayumi Tanaka song, and i laughed at "Goku was lucky that Gohan knew how to fly, while he let him go while they were up in air" sadly, i think Chaozu dead was the best way of getting rid of character on very high note, for Tenshinhan, his Shin Kikoho against Semi Perfect Cell would be perfect last stand, but no, he had to show up at Cell Games, only to have senzu bean wasted on him, and with no Senzu Beans, Gohan could lost. And Chaozu stopped fighting after Saiyan Saga, knowing he is useless and gets in way.

[Kuririn Fan]

Amazing job as always, had no idea about that Mayumi Tanaka song, and i laughed at "Goku was lucky that Gohan knew how to fly, while he let him go while they were up in air" sadly, i think Chaozu dead was the best way of getting rid of character on very high note, for Tenshinhan, his Shin Kikoho against Semi Perfect Cell would be perfect last stand, but no, he had to show up at Cell Games, only to have senzu bean wasted on him, and with no Senzu Beans, Gohan could lost. And Chaozu stopped fighting after Saiyan Saga, knowing he is useless and gets in way.

Tenshinhan also kinda helped against Evil Majin Boo Gotenks absorbed.

[Doctor.]

So a 5 for Freeza, 3 for Boo and a 1 for Cell is what I'm predicting. I think the Freeza arc is the best in the series, but I can't wait to see what criticism you throw at it, maybe I'll open my eyes to some stuff I was probably sugarcoating in the past. I assume battle powers and planet Namek's landscape will be something you'll criticize a ton.

[Kuririn Fan]

So a 5 for Freeza, 3 for Boo and a 1 for Cell is what I'm predicting. I think the Freeza arc is the best in the series, but I can't wait to see what criticism you throw at it, maybe I'll open my eyes to some stuff I was probably sugarcoating in the past. I assume battle powers and planet Namek's landscape will be something you'll criticize a ton.

I agree with everything you've said.
Also, zenkai boosts in freeza arc get really annoying real fast.