Smartest character in the series?

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Smartest character in the series?

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Thu Dec 24, 2015 4:42 am

Everyone always argues about the strongest character, but what about the smartest?

Some candidates (I can't find the poll option):

- Bulma
- Dr. Gero
- Cell
- Elder Kaioshin
- Whis
- Shenron
- Porunga
- Piccolo
- Kami
- Namekian Grand Elder
- Vados

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Re: Smartest character in the series?

Post by Khin » Thu Dec 24, 2015 4:49 am

It's Zuno.

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Re: Smartest character in the series?

Post by irreality » Thu Dec 24, 2015 4:52 am

Smart, in what sense? Seems like there are two types of smart here: has a lot of arcane/ancient knowledge or can cobble up physics altering science with a box of parts in a cave. Dr. Brief is also missing.

Cell, though: how is he smart in either sense?

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Re: Smartest character in the series?

Post by apex_pretador » Thu Dec 24, 2015 5:03 am

Battle smarts:
  • Goku
    Vegeta
    Piccolo
    Super buu
Tactical smarts:
  • Piccolo
    Super buu
    Krillin
Science smarts:
  • Gero
    Bulma
    Dr Brief
Wise:
  • Kami
    Guru
    Old Kaioshin
Blow up the planet smart : Freeza
Overall smart in every way : Zen buu from DBM (He has absorbed every type of smart people)
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Cell, though: how is he smart in either sense?
TBH, I don't think cell (atleast after achieving perfection) has shown being smart in any way. But before achieving perfection, he's shown to be really smart, in the sense he escaped piccolo, hid his ki, absorbed #17, tricked vegeta into letting him be perfect.
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Re: Smartest character in the series?

Post by Retan » Thu Dec 24, 2015 6:12 am

I agree its probably Zuno, as far a wisdom and knowledge go.

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Re: Smartest character in the series?

Post by Low Tone G » Thu Dec 24, 2015 7:13 am

Retan wrote:I agree its probably Zuno, as far a wisdom and knowledge go.
He is described to be omniscient but I shall make a bet that this statement will become false. :lol:
But until then I possibly have Akira Toriyama(Tori-bot) as the smartest in his good days when he doesn't forget things. :wink:
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Re: Smartest character in the series?

Post by Hitiro » Thu Dec 24, 2015 12:27 pm

I'm surprised nobody has said Vegetto. He did trick Boohan into absorbing him so he could save the other people he absorbed.

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Re: Smartest character in the series?

Post by Hugo Boss » Thu Dec 24, 2015 4:40 pm

I would argue it's either Bulma or Freeza. I don't count knowledge, but basically how the characters manage to survive difficult situations with less resources.

Bulma provides almost everything the heroes need and she used Beerus and Whis' taste for food in order to keep Beerus from destroying the Earth.

Freeza would be smart enough to win the battle on Earth if Whis didn't intervene.

Cell also has the potential to be pretty smart, but he is far too gifted. He defeated Gohan's arrogance, but was defeated by his own arrogance.

Perhaps I'm forgetting someone.

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Re: Smartest character in the series?

Post by Lord Beerus » Thu Dec 24, 2015 5:52 pm

Zuno. Since he literally knows everything about the universe.

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Re: Smartest character in the series?

Post by omaro34 » Thu Dec 24, 2015 9:03 pm

Every time I think of wise, I think of Kami for some reason, maybe because he was one of the first very wise being introduced in the series.

Whis is up there in terms of knowledge as well.

But the obvious answer is Zuno, though he hasn't even been introduced in the Anime yet.

Maybe later on in Super there will be another being that has the ultimate knowledge of everything in all of the 12 universes in this series. He will be the Kami of all Kami's lol.
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Re: Smartest character in the series?

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Thu Dec 24, 2015 11:50 pm

omaro34 wrote:Every time I think of wise, I think of Kami for some reason, maybe because he was one of the first very wise being introduced in the series.

Whis is up there in terms of knowledge as well.

But the obvious answer is Zuno, though he hasn't even been introduced in the Anime yet.

Maybe later on in Super there will be another being that has the ultimate knowledge of everything in all of the 12 universes in this series. He will be the Kami of all Kami's lol.
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Re: Smartest character in the series?

Post by FoolsGil » Fri Dec 25, 2015 10:24 am

Toss up between Bulma (Time Traveling Device) and Gero (Perpetual Energy Battery/Bio mechanical Life Creation)

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Re: Smartest character in the series?

Post by Eradicatethesaiyans » Fri Jun 10, 2016 6:50 pm

What about Gohan? I always thought that he was pretty smart, maybe not as smart as Piccolo or Gero, but, the kid knew trigonometry at age four. He has to have some brains.
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Re: Smartest character in the series?

Post by floofychan333 » Fri Jun 10, 2016 7:03 pm

Probably Bulma, though she's not always smart when it's convenient. An example: When she wanted to watch the androids fight Goku and crew WHILE SHE HAD BABY TRUNKS IN HER ARMS. Stupidest non-Goku thing in the whole franchise.
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Re: Smartest character in the series?

Post by RandomGuy96 » Fri Jun 10, 2016 8:42 pm

Zarama is supposed to be able to grant any wish, which means he could know everything. So him I guess.
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He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
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Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: Smartest character in the series?

Post by TekTheNinja » Sat Jun 11, 2016 6:15 am

There different ways of being smart, but overall, I'd say Piccolo. Sometime he feels like the only one with any common sense in Dragon Ball.

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Re: Smartest character in the series?

Post by RandomGuy96 » Sat Jun 11, 2016 5:07 pm

TekTheNinja wrote:There different ways of being smart, but overall, I'd say Piccolo. Sometime he feels like the only one with any common sense in Dragon Ball.
Except for all these times.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: Smartest character in the series?

Post by Speedster » Sat Jun 11, 2016 7:33 pm

Omniscience, relative omniscience, magic:
1. Zeno, Zarama
2. Super Shenlong/Porunga/Shenlong
3. Zuno
4. Whis, Vados
5. Elder Kaioshin
6. Kaio-sama
7. Grand Elder, Kami
8. Moori, Dende

Science & Tenchology:
1. Dr Myu (GT)
2. Dr Gero, Dr Briefs, Dr. Wheelo (DBZ movie 2)
3. Bulma
4. GT Trunks (he was basically the male equivalent of Bulma)
5. Gohan (EoZ, GT)

Fighting:
1. Vegetto
2. Goku, Hit
3. Vegeta
4. Piccolo/Kamiccolo
5. Super Buu, Freeza, Cell

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Re: Smartest character in the series?

Post by Lionel » Sat Jun 11, 2016 8:24 pm

There's different facets to intelligence. You have academic genius types like Bulma, the philosophical erudite kind like Kami, then there's the tactical fighting insight. The overall most intelligent prize would have to go to Zuno since his wisdom is universally understood.

I don't know why Vegeta and Piccolo are ranked so highly yet someone like Krillin's name goes largely unacknowledged except for one mention. He's displayed just as much ingenuity and craftiness as any of them. Most of Piccolo's "smart moments" in a fight occur primarily during the Saiyan arc where they consisted mostly of diversionary tactics courtesy of someone else being the target of the enemy. And I'm not even sure why Vegeta is listed up close to the top -- apart from a bluff or two his approach to fighting has largely consisted of rushing the enemy and pummeling them. Now when it comes to war games he's not too bad. He makes a decent grand strategist.

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Re: Smartest character in the series?

Post by Kuririn Fan » Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:53 pm

Dr. Gero.
That guy created bunch of robots in a cave, who are stronger than Legendary Super Saiyan.

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