The final villain ideas for Super

[Sandubadear]

You Don't. That's the point. It would be awesome to have such an overpowered character whom Goku and the Z Warriors could never defeat. And would make the story a lot more exciting. Since there's such a huge sense of despair.

The point being: the omnipotent character simply kills everyone and Dragon Ball ends?

[Tsufuru]

i want to see what reason toriyama gives us to why zarama never showed up.

[MozillaVulpix]

I've considered having some primordial being that thinks Goku and co. are too dangerous and are disrupting the natural flow of the universe with their endless transformations. Basically, something like the Anti-Spiral, for those who have seen Gurren Lagann. It's unlikely, but I've always thought it'd be a neat idea. It could help give a justification as to how Goku keeps getting stronger, no matter what.

[GodVegetto91]

You Don't. That's the point. It would be awesome to have such an overpowered character whom Goku and the Z Warriors could never defeat. And would make the story a lot more exciting. Since there's such a huge sense of despair.

The point being: the omnipotent character simply kills everyone and Dragon Ball ends?

Well Dragon Ball Super is already bound to end after they have faced all 12 Gods of Destruction. So it's a good end.
Nah this Villain won't kill them imidiately. He enjoys toying around with his enemies and all. And who knows maybe Goku's character will impress him again. Allowing him to show mercy. But if they did end up dead. At least it would be a worthy dead. And they will die with their honor intact.

[Lord Beerus]

Bring back Broly or Super Janemba. Case closed

Yuck. No thank you. I rather have an original villain from one of the other universes, than just bring back a one note DBZ movie bad guy.

[coola]

Since we got glimpse of multiple Universes, maybe some sort of being like Time Devourer from Chrono Cross/Trigger, that live beyond Time and Space?

[DragonBalllKaiHD]

Yi Xing Long (Syn/Omega Shenron) could have been a great final villain, but his characters was badly made. He shows up out of nowhere with no proper introduction, he has little to no personality and his motivation was badly written. Not to mention Zarama is the creator of the original Dragon Balls while Yi Xing Long is a dragon born from being over used from the Dragon Balls. I think the two would likely be very different from each other.

Are you serious? Came out of nowhere? Had no personality? Killing Si Xing Long was a great way to introduce the final villain. It just shows you that he's in a whole different league of what Goku was facing up until now. And You just explained your reason of why Yi Xing Long had "no personality". It's as you said- he was born out of minus energy of Dragon Balls. What do you expect aside of having desire to lay utter waste to the universe? By that logic Pure Boo also had no personality.

[Hellspawn28]

Fat Buu had perosnality. He had a mind of a two year old and love eating food. He love playing around and had fun fighting. Yi Xing Long came off really bland in my opinion and there was like nothing going for him. He did show out of nowhere since he killed the 4th Star Shadow Dragon and we didn't have any build up to him like we did Vegeta, Freeza, Cell and Buu. Even Bebi had build up to his appearance. Yi Xing Long just came out of nowhere and was like "This is the final Shadow Dragon!". We didn't get to know about him since the other Shadow Dragons told us on how they where born. His character could have been much better in my opinion.

[DragonBalllKaiHD]

I am not talking about Fat Boo. I'm talking about "Kid" Boo.

[Hellspawn28]

Sorry I miss read your post. Kid Buu is made to be a wild like animal being, so it works for his character. Not to mention we haven't had a wild animal like antagonist before in the series. While Yi Xing Long is pretty much your overpowering antagonist without a interesting personality in my opinion. Even his English Funimation dub voice makes his character feel more generic.

[Xeztin]

As someone mentioned earlier I think it should be the end all be all "God". The creator of Universe 7 "Not all 12" and he could be the man that appointed Beerus and Whis their jobs along with the Kais. I could see him creating Universe 7, and then at the end of Super realizes that his Universe 7 is beyond corrupt and that Evil has overtaken it and he finally decides he should destroy it and start over. He doesn't necessarily have to be evil, somewhat neutral like Beerus and what ticks him off is like Goku trying to defend Universe 7 and to keep him from destroying his own creation. He wants to destroy U7 with everything in it along with Beerus, Whis, and the Kai's for failing at their Jobs which is to keep the universe balanced, and because of them doing a "Bad" job it has become unstable and evil. There could be a godly commandment saying that "None shall travel outside their Universe" which could basically be the number 1 rule. Champa's and Beerus tournament could have broken that rule, since Champa brought U6 fighters to U7 and surely Goku and Vegeta go to U6 during the U6 Arc. This could lead to more Universe lore as the 7th Universes God could be one of 12 God's. I could see everyone in U7 teaming up including Beerus and Whis himself to fight the 7th God. Also we may get lore on Majin Boo's existence, perhaps he could have been the first evil projected into the universe centuries ago as a result of someone Universe hopping, and they brought back Boo with them by accident which is why the number 1 rule was put into effect in the first place. Also after a big battle Goku and friends end up convincing God that U7 is not truly corrupt and unbalanced or whatever, and that you can't control/keep everything perfect.

Sorry got a bit carried away there

[Hellspawn28]

If Zarama ends up being a final villain then my idea is that he is awaken when the Super Dragon Balls are summoned and does not like how other Planets like Namek & Earth has Dragon Balls. He never wanted other planets to have Dragon Balls to avoid people using the power of the Dragon Balls for evil. Universe 7 and Universe 6 must work together to defeat Zarama. Instead killing Zarama, both universes loses and Goku makes a deal with Zarama to deactivate the Dragon Balls on both Earth and Namek.

[ShadowBardock89]

But the final villain should definitely be The Creator God of the whole multiverse. (the one above all) an omnipotent being who's the source of everything in existence and nothing can possibly exist without him.
that's what i want to see after the 12 Gods of Destruction.
and it would make for a great sense of despair aswell.

Akira Toriyama as the final boss?
That'd be interesting...

[Hot Rod]

And that is possible, since Daizenshuu 7 acknowledges Akira Toriyama as an actual character. I would be in shocked and surprised as hell if this ever come true.

[Sodhi]

Wow, i was thinking about Toriyama himself to be final villain this morning, glad to see it was not only me.

[DragonHermit]

Since Toriyama likes parallels, I think we'll see something along the lines of The Emperor of the 12 Universes. So a parallel between the Frieza Saga and last saga for Super.

Also, I wouldn't be surprised if the Emperor of the 12 Universes was a Frieza race character (Frost Demons)

[CosmicSaiyan]

Wow, i was thinking about Toriyama himself to be final villain this morning, glad to see it was not only me.

But how would that work if hes the original writer. Unless he makes himself lose there is no way anyone would be able to beat him, since he would be on an omnipotent level.

I would rather stick with something more simple but at the same time surpising and interesting. Perhaps an original God Saiyan? People always wanted to know who was the original super saiyan god was and i think making an arc about him would make sense. Or they could create an evil version of Goku that is stronger than even Vados and Whis and give a new super saiyan form with some bad ass clothes/armor similar to this fan art. Goku here looks very godly

[Sodhi]

But how would that work if hes the original writer. Unless he makes himself lose there is no way anyone would be able to beat him, since he would be on an omnipotent level.

Now that you say that, I should not have said final villain but the final person they meet(those villains that do not turn out to be villains but just teach someone a lesson.). It can work because it will make the Z warriors realize that no matter what they do there will always be someone stronger than them. Then he could reveal that he is the creator of all the universes.

[Lord Beerus]

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That design is far too Saint Seiya-like to fit in with Dragon Ball.

[Sakura]

'Evil Goku' (terrible name: more like "not a super good guy Goku, but a regular Saiyan-natured Goku with immense power") is an interesting idea though, but I doubt Super will be able to pull it off. Instead of a deep, near-philosophical enquiry into the true nature of Goku's persona, of how he'd exploit his power and what choices he'd make, of what development he'd undergo and how he'd be shaped by his peers and experiences, of what the story of Goku would have looked like if he had not just magically turned pure by hitting his head as a child .... instead of that, we'd probably get something silly as mwhahaha i have been brainwashed to become evil, watch out earth watch out !!....