FUNI Super dub - What are your wishes?

[ssjvegeta420]

BRUCE FALCONER DOING THE MUSIC

[Soppa Saia People]

BRUCE FALCONER DOING THE MUSIC

Pipe dream.

[Ssgvegito30]

BRUCE FALCONER DOING THE MUSIC

That's my wish too but unfortunately it's not happening due to funimation and Bruce Faulkner not in better terms since the start of dbgt dubs.....

[precita]

I still don't get why they fired him after the Buu saga. They should have at least let him score GT and the Season 1-2 redub, he was certainly better than Mark Menza and whoever scored the first two seasons.

[Ssgvegito30]

I still don't get why they fired him after the Buu saga. They should have at least let him score GT and the Season 1-2 redub, he was certainly better than Mark Menza and whoever scored the first two seasons.

Dbgt dubs background music was also one of reasons I hated gt. I came across some article few years back about why Bruce Faulkner was fired from the job, I hope somebody could post this article here, I don't remember what was the reason to fire him...

[LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta]

More natural sounding voices. GT and the buu saga had the best acting, after raging blast 1 the acting sounded to forced and raspy.

[Puto]

They didn't hire him for GT because they wanted a different type of sound for it, and he threw a fit and publicised the private e-mail addresses of FUNimation's staff asking fans to spam them with requests to bring him back, which pretty much canned any chances of them even CONSIDERING bringing him back after such an atrocious display of unprofessionalism. They would've probably brought him back for the Season 1-2 redub if he hadn't pulled that stunt.

[LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta]

They didn't hire him for GT because they wanted a different type of sound for it, and he threw a fit and publicised the private e-mail addresses of FUNimation's staff asking fans to spam them with requests to bring him back, which pretty much canned any chances of them even CONSIDERING bringing him back after such an atrocious display of unprofessionalism. They would've probably brought him back for the Season 1-2 redub if he hadn't pulled that stunt.

If that's true that was dumb of him, however Funimation replacing him after all he's done and proven worth was really idiotic. It'd be like firing Sean Schemmel before he got lazy. It'd be poison to the company.

[Soppa Saia People]

If that's true that was dumb of him, however Funimation replacing him after all he's done and proven worth was really idiotic. It'd be like firing Sean Schemmel before he got lazy. It'd be poison to the company.

How was it idiotic ?? Replacement tracks are a thing of the past and are bad for businesses.

[LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta]

If that's true that was dumb of him, however Funimation replacing him after all he's done and proven worth was really idiotic. It'd be like firing Sean Schemmel before he got lazy. It'd be poison to the company.

How was it idiotic ?? Replacement tracks are a thing of the past and are bad for businesses.

I think we're on 2 different conversations buddy. I said it's dumb to replace him and you said replacement tracks are idiotic...doesn't that mean you agree with me?

[Soppa Saia People]

If that's true that was dumb of him, however Funimation replacing him after all he's done and proven worth was really idiotic. It'd be like firing Sean Schemmel before he got lazy. It'd be poison to the company.

How was it idiotic ?? Replacement tracks are a thing of the past and are bad for businesses.

I think we're on 2 different conversations buddy. I said it's dumb to replace him and you said replacement tracks are idiotic...doesn't that mean you agree with me?

What ? You said firing him was idiotic, and I said it wasn't because be was doing replacement tracks.

[LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta]

Again, I don't think we're having the same conversation. Look at what you wrote. Point is I think it's dumb to replace him. Are you saying replacement music is bad? You called it a thing of the past and bad.

[Hellspawn28]

We don't need Bruce Faulconer. We move away from his music and it seems like a lot of fans are happy with the Japanese music now these days for the last 10 years.

[LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta]

We don't need Bruce Faulconer. We move away from his music and it seems like a lot of fans are happy with the Japanese music now these days for the last 10 years.

But the majority of that music was kenji and he's gone. The new musician for super is generally hated by the fanbase.

Bruce is needed back, it wont happen but it'd be great.

They need the man behind either Z or GT Japanese scores. One of those 2 guys because they captured the feeling well, especially Z's...super's score feels lifeless, even when its trying to be up beat it's not interesting.

To me Bruce>Kenji>Z's score in Japanese>gt's Japanese score>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>super's=boring.

Heck I'd take them re using Z's music library...just hopefully better then they did with kai. (cough only 3 songs used cough)

[Soppa Saia People]

Okay LSSJG4GODSSJ4Gogeta I'm going to make it simple for you. You said getting rid of him was stupid, I said it wasn't because he does replacement tracks for FUNi and replacement tracks are a thing of the past and bad for businesses. Do you not know that Faulconer did replacement BGM ??

[LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta]

Okay LSSJG4GODSSJ4Gogeta I'm going to make it simple for you. You said getting rid of him was stupid, I said it wasn't because he does replacement tracks for FUNi and replacement tracks are a thing of the past and bad for businesses. Do you not know that Faulconer did replacement BGM ??

You said "How was it idiotic ?? Replacement tracks are a thing of the past and are bad for businesses." When I said it was dumb to replace him. I think it's dumb to use menza over him even though I LOVE menza's music...yeah I don't care if that's unpopular to think.


How are replacement tracks bad for business? It was the fact the dragon box DIDN"T have the Bruce Faulconer music that people that people hated the dragon boxes. Why get the set that ddnt have the better music? In some people's opinion it was better, the majority of the US and Europe anyways. I agree. A lot of people say the DB suck for having a OST they don't like, and yeah the Orange bricks are flawed, but at least they were smart enough to give BOTH BGM tracks so everyone is pleased. Appealing only to people who like the Japanese music is a bad business move. It isolates people who hate the Japanese OST (I don't get the hate for it, I love both...but a lot of people don't like the Japanese music and feel it's bland).


I think any future DBZ dub product needs BOTH English and Japanese scores, because some people don't like the Japanese music, and some people don't like the English score. Same with the actors. Some hate dubs, some hate the Japanese versions. It's bad for business to appeal to a fraction for the fanbase rather then the entirety. It'd be like Making ROF movie only on blu ray or VHS....there's tones of people who won't buy those so it kills the amount of profit that can be made.

[Valerius Dover]

I certainly agree that there's no reason to exclude the replacement scores from current and future releases of the series, because they do have their fans. However, a new series from 2015 should not be getting a replacement score with Funi at the helm. Funimation is focused on translating anime accurately, as they should be. Retaining the original music is a part of that.

[LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta]

I certainly agree that there's no reason to exclude the replacement scores from current and future releases of the series, because they do have their fans. However, a new series from 2015 should not be getting a replacement score with Funi at the helm. Funimation is focused on translating anime accurately, as they should be. Retaining the original music is a part of that.

It's hard to disagree with a awesome Wakko gif you have, however I think accuracy means dubbing it as close to the script as possible. If they want to make it popular again like in the early 2000's they need to keep taking liberties. People think Americanizations are all bad, but Goku having a Male voice is an Americanization and most prefer it like that.

If you get rid of the music, then you need to stop having Hebert and Schemmel because they are epic sounding men rather then a girl doing the voices to sound light hearted and goofy like the Japanese version. They need to keep the Japanese music for DVD and BLu ray however when people turn on Super on toonami one day and hear the music, they'' get sucked out of it. Same thing might happen if you replaced yammamotto with American music for kai, that region might be turned off for the most part. A majority of the fanbase for the English version grew up with it on toonami and feel bruce was what made it epic and having him not in dragonball is like star wars without Williams and cant watch it.

While I don't find dragonball unwatchable without him, I get the mentality and think thye need a better musician then the current one/ if only yammamotto was still around.....why cant we just have the man who did Z before? That'd be perfect! Or at least Gt's musician.

[Ajay]

If someone doesn't like an aspect of a product, then bad luck. That's the product. You don't like a part of the product, and that's fine. You are certainly free to wish the product was different, but to argue that a company should disrespect the intentions of the creators just to appease your own tastes is asinine.

I would love Super to have a different score, but I'm not advocating for replacement soundtracks. I just wish they'd gone with someone different in the first place. Go and do something about it on your own time.

[LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta]

If someone doesn't like an aspect of a product, then bad luck. That's the product. You don't like a part of the product, and that's fine. You are certainly free to wish the product was different, but to argue that a company should disrespect the intentions of the creators just to appease your own tastes is asinine.

I would love Super to have a different score, but I'm not advocating for replacement soundtracks. I just wish they'd gone with someone different in the first place. Go and do something about it on your own time.

So you think it's bad to have ever had faulconer? because I feel it's not disrespectful at all. To me saying that is like saying it's disrespectful to watch filler because it's not what the creator had in his vision.

People are allowed to want different things because it's preferences, what'd be asinine and rude is if I attacked the score composer for not liking his music, or insulted the makers for doing something I don't like that has no bad intentions behind it.

I think people take the whole true to the Japanese version thing to literal. If it's to much like the Japanese version your audience is shrunk to those who like it which isn't everyone. Just like how excluding the Japanese BGM's and Japanese audio track from the DVDs would kill the sales for those who buy it solely for the Japanese version, as some can't watch one version because they find it bad.

I mean think about it, do you think dragonball would be better if we had a female voice for goku in the states? As someone who loves his voice actress and defends her from people who say she's a bad actress I gotta say it's bad business, because many people just don't like that choice, even though it was Toriyama's. And without good business dragonball won't fly, heck it's barely flying right now it looks judging on the failures of the last couple of years sadly.

I respect you preferring the authentic version, but people should critic as they like and judge all they want, as long as it's done in a mature manner all it can do is help the franchise.