"(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread

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Re: "Dragon Ball Heroes" On-Going Discussion Thread

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Wed Dec 30, 2015 2:10 pm

There are plenty of other reasons, already pointed out, why SS4 was likely skipped. You have evidence to the contrary that they don't treat SS4 as stronger right there in the in-game boosts. If you want to think otherwise, that's your choice. But I'm done with the conversation.
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:So SSG2 & SSG3 are treated as the same forms, or SSG2 is the only form in the game? Also, what about Saiyan beyond God?
Power Stressed just denotes whatever the strongest "bulk up" state a Saiyan-ish characters has (Vegeta, Trunks, Cell).

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Kaio-ken is a +1500 boost.
Ultimate is never giver a change mechanic.
"Saiyan Beyond God" is a +6000 boost.
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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Wed Dec 30, 2015 2:20 pm

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alakazam^ wrote:If they went the God route, I doubt they'll regress to SS4.
For the avatars, I think they just went the god route because it's easier on them to not have to worry about whether to make them adults and how to censor the females. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if we see more SS4 characters among the regular characters though. It's less work, as shown with Broli and Gohan.
The question is just who is left to do it with? We already got Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, Broly, and Gogeta. That leaves us GT Trunks and Goten (who still needs SSJ3), Bardock, Adult Gotenks, and Vegetto (who would need a GT incarnation first anyway). Doesnt seem like a whole lot of options are left at the moment.
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Post by Steven Bloodriver » Wed Dec 30, 2015 4:42 pm

I wonder if we will be seeing something truly unexpected anytime soon? :think:

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Post by DNA » Wed Dec 30, 2015 4:51 pm

Were you expecting the recent new forms?
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Post by Steven Bloodriver » Wed Dec 30, 2015 4:52 pm

Yes, but also of entirely new characters.

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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Wed Dec 30, 2015 5:15 pm

Steven Bloodriver wrote:I wonder if we will be seeing something truly unexpected anytime soon? :think:
Id consider Bebi Trunks pretty unexpected. Dont think a lot if not anybody was asking for that. Bebi Goku I could understand but Trunks? Seems pretty out of left field.
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Wed Dec 30, 2015 5:21 pm

I see many people asking for Goku, but I'm fairly certain he's going to remain untainted by anything. So if anyone else from that arc was going to get a further Bebi possession, Trunks, Goten and Gohan were the top of my expectations.
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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Wed Dec 30, 2015 5:27 pm

A Bebi SSJ4 Vegeta would be a interesting concept. See what it would look like if he evolved the version of his Oozaru into a Tsufuru/Saiyan SSJ4.
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Post by DNA » Wed Dec 30, 2015 5:36 pm

Yeah, I too was expecting Baby Hatchiyack and Baby Trunks to appear at some point, I've been mentioning them for quite some time now. Wasn't expecting Xeno Goten at all or Super #17 #18 Absorbed.
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Post by Hot Rod » Wed Dec 30, 2015 8:07 pm

Xeno Goten is by far the most unexpected aspect that no one could have foreseen.

I wonder if someone behind Heroes/Xenoverse is working with someone that was behind Dragon Ball Online, because I would like to know if the stuff Heroes brings from the latter could/would possibly become a reality if that game had not been closed, like saying that Dabura and Towa are brothers or if Mira was supposed to have a transformation... (of course, except Son Goten joining the Time Patrol, because that character comes from Dragon Ball GT and Dragon Ball Online follows the manga).

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Post by Chuquita » Wed Dec 30, 2015 8:49 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:I see many people asking for Goku, but I'm fairly certain he's going to remain untainted by anything. So if anyone else from that arc was going to get a further Bebi possession, Trunks, Goten and Gohan were the top of my expectations.
I'm certain this is why we haven't seen Majin Gokû OR Bebi Gokû. For some reason Shueisha wants to keep him incorruptible.

Majin Gokû I'd kinda want to see too, but for that reason I doubt we'll ever get it.
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Post by Rinsankajugin » Wed Dec 30, 2015 9:22 pm

Reasonable characters and forms not in DBH yet:
While they go through these characters, DIMPS will probably make up their own What-Ifs as well.

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Post by Hot Rod » Thu Dec 31, 2015 12:17 am

TheDevilsCorpse wrote: SS = +2000
Power Stressed = +2500
SS2 = +3000
SS3 = +4000
SS4 = +7000
SSG = +8000
SSGSS = +9000
I was looking for more information about these numbers, and I noticed that Vegeta gets an increase of +4000 when transforms into the "Majin state", which corresponds to a Super Saiyan 3 transformation, even though Vegeta as Majin is usually seen as Super Saiyan 2.
Goku with the "Super Saiyan power" change mechanic has as a "secondary" form an increase of +5000. Which transformation does +5000 correspond?

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Post by alakazam^ » Thu Dec 31, 2015 12:34 am

Super Saiyajin 2.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Thu Dec 31, 2015 12:36 am

It's Super Saiyan and Super Saiyan 2 if I remember correctly. It's possible that most of the varied change mechanics that allow multiple forms on a single card are all wonky compared to the standard boosts. I don't really care that much about the subject so I've never really paid attention.
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Post by Xeogran » Thu Dec 31, 2015 6:31 am

Rinsankajugin wrote:While they go through these characters, DIMPS will probably make up their own What-Ifs as well.
The Ozotto dream is dead :(

I'm thinking that perhaps just perhaps, they will remember that Mira and Towa had a son and give him an adult version finally. Or leave that for XV 2 plot and then add him onto Heroes.

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Post by ShadowBardock89 » Thu Dec 31, 2015 10:12 am

Xeogran wrote:
Rinsankajugin wrote:While they go through these characters, DIMPS will probably make up their own What-Ifs as well.
The Ozotto dream is dead :(

I'm thinking that perhaps just perhaps, they will remember that Mira and Towa had a son and give him an adult version finally. Or leave that for XV 2 plot and then add him onto Heroes.
What are you? Onslaught?

Anyways, I also hope that an adult Fuu is introduced in Heroes. I picture him being not only strong and efficient in Towa's Dark Magic, but also has the Chessmaster Trope written all over him.
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Post by Steven Bloodriver » Thu Dec 31, 2015 4:05 pm

Even at birth, Fu would also be insanely strong in terms of fighting skill and battle power too, also I know this is an off-topic question but what are the limits of posting a fanfiction here? In the Fan-created Works Section of the website's forum.

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Thu Dec 31, 2015 7:04 pm

KentalSSJ6 wrote:A Bebi SSJ4 Vegeta would be a interesting concept. See what it would look like if he evolved the version of his Oozaru into a Tsufuru/Saiyan SSJ4.
That would be cool. Since they did Majin Bebi Janemba then they could also do Majin Bebi Vegeta (It can be Bebi Vegeta 3 with a majin seal on his forehead, dark black lines around the eyes, and increased muscle mass puff) and Bebi Majin Vegeta (Bebi taking over Majin Vegeta's body. It can be Majin Vegeta with white hair, large metallic shoulder pads and blue eyes similar to Super Bebi Trunks).
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Post by shadd21 » Fri Jan 01, 2016 5:04 pm

I'M surprised SSJB Gogeta/Vegetto isn't a thing yet.

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