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Post by Tanooki Kuribo » Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:25 am

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Post by Conan the SSJ » Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:32 am

Kendamu wrote:If I remember correctly, for FMA they got Ocean Group to do the voices. With FUNi having "more money that we know what to do with" I wonder why they couldn't keep Ocean Group for DBZ...
Actually, it was a pure FUNi Studio dub, with just a few ADV VAs sprnkled about, as well as a one-episode stint for Johnny Bosch. The only Ocean studio VA in the dub was Scott Mcneil, whom voiced Hohenheim. Shows just how good FUNi can be. :wink:
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Post by nathantheguitarist » Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:40 am

theoriginalbilis wrote:You guys should also hear the "You won't escape MY WRAAATH!" line for the redub: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdu8_rko0kU ... :shock:
Can someone post a youtube link to a clip of the Ocean version of this scene? The last time I saw that episode, DBZ was still in syndication :lol:
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Post by GI_Judd2287 » Sat Jan 20, 2007 2:28 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QSb02uwOAE

The BGM in the redub is quite awful in comparison.
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Post by Mr.Piccolo » Sat Jan 20, 2007 2:41 am

GI_Judd2287 wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QSb02uwOAE

The BGM in the redub is quite awful in comparison.
My biggest gripe with that dub is that the line "big bully" is used in almost every episode. Same thing the the typical cheerful, happy forest music that usually plays...:x
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Post by theoriginalbilis » Sat Jan 20, 2007 2:49 am

Mr.Piccolo wrote:My biggest gripe with that dub is that the line "big bully" is used in almost every episode. Same thing the the typical cheerful, happy forest music that usually plays...:x
-Rick
Still, you got to admit Shuki Levy's music was at least more memorable than Mark Menza's random-ass guitar noodling.

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Post by BrollysKin » Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:04 am

I don't know. I didn't feel that the Ocean dubs Vegeta had any evil to him. His voice was too high for my likeings.
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Post by Mayuri Furiza Kurotsuchi » Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:14 am

theoriginalbilis wrote:
Mr.Piccolo wrote:My biggest gripe with that dub is that the line "big bully" is used in almost every episode. Same thing the the typical cheerful, happy forest music that usually plays...:x
-Rick
Still, you got to admit Shuki Levy's music was at least more memorable than Mark Menza's random-ass guitar noodling.

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I didn't like Mark Menza's music, but this Shuki Levy guy's music was just generic sci-fi movie BGM. I'd prefer Mark Menza over that any day.

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Post by nathantheguitarist » Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:16 am

Who cares for dub music when we get the Japanese BGM with these new sets :D

Oh.. right... widescreen... neeeevurrmiiind... :roll:
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Post by SatoSky » Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:17 am

nathantheguitarist wrote:Who cares for dub music when we get the Japanese BGM with these new sets :D
My thoughts exactly. :)

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Post by Mr.Piccolo » Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:25 am

SatoSky wrote:
nathantheguitarist wrote:Who cares for dub music when we get the Japanese BGM with these new sets :D
My thoughts exactly. :)
Which side are you on?! :x j/k. I plan on watching the set in every way, shape, and form... Obviously, keeping in mind that it's going to lose some picture from the top and bottom. :roll: Question for those planning on buying the new set: Are you going straight to the JPN audio/ENG dub track? I am to not only watch the show but to see how it works. It seems like a good idea but it could be a bit awkward with the dub and all.
My biggest gripe with that dub is that the line "big bully" is used in almost every episode. Same thing the the typical cheerful, happy forest music that usually plays...:x
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Post by nathantheguitarist » Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:32 am

Mr.Piccolo wrote:
SatoSky wrote:
nathantheguitarist wrote:Who cares for dub music when we get the Japanese BGM with these new sets :D
My thoughts exactly. :)
Which side are you on?! :x j/k.
If you meant me, I'm on the "I want to kick FUNimation in the corporal balls because of the widescreen release" side. :wink:
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Post by theoriginalbilis » Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:32 am

Mr.Piccolo wrote: Question for those planning on buying the new set: Are you going straight to the JPN audio/ENG dub track? I am to not only watch the show but to see how it works. It seems like a good idea but it could be a bit awkward with the dub and all.
Well, since I've seen the whole series in Japanese fairly recently and listened to some of the UUE redub (on TV and DVD), I was going to listen to the ENG dub/JPN music track first.

I'm hoping for fully translated credits for the Japanese production on these new sets, not just the FUNi staff and like 5-6 blurbs for the Japanese staff. Maybe even a dubbed version of HEAD CHA-LA would be nice (probably not going to happen, but a guy can dream...) :P

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Post by Kendamu » Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:59 am

Conan the SSJ wrote:
Kendamu wrote:If I remember correctly, for FMA they got Ocean Group to do the voices. With FUNi having "more money that we know what to do with" I wonder why they couldn't keep Ocean Group for DBZ...
Actually, it was a pure FUNi Studio dub, with just a few ADV VAs sprnkled about, as well as a one-episode stint for Johnny Bosch. The only Ocean studio VA in the dub was Scott Mcneil, whom voiced Hohenheim. Shows just how good FUNi can be. :wink:
Well, either way, the voices in FMA sound more... real than the ones in DBZ. In DBZ a lot of the main characters sound like part of their training was chain smoking.

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Post by Kirbopher » Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:14 pm

Let's not forget Mike Sinterniklaas (Dean Venture, Leonardo the TMNT) was in there too ;D

I think the only reason people would find Shuki Levy's music any more or less "memorable" than any of the other composers they eventually got on board, is because you were hearing the SAME tunes in Power Rangers, the 90's Megaman cartoon, and such. Similiar to how PPG and Dexter would use similiar BGM all the time.

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Post by Pieter » Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:32 pm

nathantheguitarist wrote:Who cares for dub music when we get the Japanese BGM with these new sets :D

Oh.. right... widescreen... neeeevurrmiiind... :roll:
That's going to be terrible. Mono music with hnnnngh 5.1 DOLBY SABAT GRUNTS (holy shit I've gone back in time four years)

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Post by Kendamu » Sat Jan 20, 2007 5:22 pm

Kirbopher wrote:Let's not forget Mike Sinterniklaas (Dean Venture, Leonardo the TMNT) was in there too ;D

I think the only reason people would find Shuki Levy's music any more or less "memorable" than any of the other composers they eventually got on board, is because you were hearing the SAME tunes in Power Rangers, the 90's Megaman cartoon, and such. Similiar to how PPG and Dexter would use similiar BGM all the time.
I didn't watch many Saban shows. I just think I liked Shuky Levi's better than anyone else's.

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Post by SatoSky » Sat Jan 20, 2007 5:32 pm

Mr.Piccolo wrote:Which side are you on?! :x j/k. I plan on watching the set in every way, shape, and form... Obviously, keeping in mind that it's going to lose some picture from the top and bottom. :roll: Question for those planning on buying the new set: Are you going straight to the JPN audio/ENG dub track? I am to not only watch the show but to see how it works. It seems like a good idea but it could be a bit awkward with the dub and all.
-Rick
Well I'm a fan of the original, but I'm actually really interested to hear the dub with the Japanese BGM.

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Post by imperfectcell » Sat Jan 20, 2007 8:24 pm

Even though it's wide screen, I still bought it. It's a small price to pay for all of the extra things plus it's so cheap. The covers's a bit too orange, though...

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Post by Kendamu » Sun Jan 21, 2007 3:05 am

I just came to a somewhat new conclusion on these DVDs.

I prefer the manga over the anime. It's the Japanese soundtrack that keeps me coming back to the anime more than anything. I just compared the episode with when Goku first went Super Saiyan (in 4:3, of course) with the manga chapter counterpart and I've noticed that the anime didn't express exactly what was intended by the manga when it comes to what's in view on the screen.

Of course, I know it's impossible to do that since the manga panels come in all shapes and sizes and a TV screen is always going to be in one of two shapes (4:3 or 16:9). But, I've come to the conclusion that if the new set (which I pre-ordered, BTW) conveys the source material, the manga, well enough in a 16:9 format then I'll be happy with these sets.

Just another viewpoint that I hadn't seen from anyone else yet.

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