The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Khin]

Here's some fights:

• SSJ Goten (Post ROSAT) vs. SSJ Gohan (Beginning of Buu Arc)
  
  Hypothetical SSJ Future Trunks (Buu Arc) vs. SSJ Kid Trunks (Pre ROSAT) (What if Future Trunks came back during the events of Buu Arc. Do you all think he got significantly stronger or not at all?)
  
  Mighty Mask (SSJ) vs. Piccolo (Buu Arc) (Is Mighty Mask's Costume that much of a hindrance?)
  
  Hypothetical SSJ3 Gogeta (BOG) vs. SSJ Vegetto (Buu Arc)

- Close battle,but even if Gohan is rusty,he still have the experience and skill to take down his little brother.
- Depends,If Future Trunks trained in those 7 years,he should be able to take down Kid Trunks quite easily.However,if he is as strong or only slightly stronger than his last appearance,Kid Trunks wrecks him.
- Mighty Mask one shots.
- Vegetto wrecks even in base.

[ZombieVito]

Here's some fights:

• SSJ Goten (Post ROSAT) vs. SSJ Gohan (Beginning of Buu Arc)
  
  South Kaioshin (Anime) vs. SSJ3 Goku (Buu Arc/Dead Body)
  
  Hypothetical SSJ Future Trunks (Buu Arc) vs. SSJ Kid Trunks (Pre ROSAT) (What if Future Trunks came back during the events of Buu Arc. Do you all think he got significantly stronger or not at all?)
  
  Mighty Mask (SSJ) vs. Piccolo (Buu Arc) (Is Mighty Mask's Costume that much of a hindrance?)
  
  Hypothetical SSJ3 Gogeta (BOG) vs. SSJ Vegetto (Buu Arc)

1.- A very close fight. Goten can win this because of Gohan's rustiness.
2.- Goku powers down to Super Saiyan 2 and one shots. South Kaioshin is very overrated IMO. He did fight Pure Buu somewhat evenly but Buu was obviously toying and one shotted the Kaioshin.
3.- Future Trunks beats him after a very hard and long fight.
4.- Very interesting. I can see Piccolo winning if he plays his cards rights.
5.- Super Saiyan Vegetto finger flicks.

[apex_pretador]

• Super #13 vs. Semi-Perfect Cell
• Cui & Dodria vs. Zarbon(not allowed to transform)
• Kaioshin vs. FPSSJ Goku(Cell Games Saga)
• Metamoru Fused Jeice/Burter vs. Final Form Freeza(Initial appearance)

Semi-cell stomps. #13 is around #16 level.

Tough battle, but i\I think cui & dodoria take this. Cui's blast was dangerous for even vegeta , who dodged it & was stronger than zarbon. Dodoria can distract zarbon for this.

Kaioshin easily.

Even if they can fuse , they lose to nail-piccolo. Freeza is a huge deal.

Super Saiyan 4 GT Gohan vs Super Saiyan 4 Broly.

Broly may not even need SS4. His SS3 will be enough.

New Matches :

- Kid Gohan (Android Arc) vs. Base Mirai Trunks (Android Arc)
- Hypothetical SSj Kid Gohan (Android Arc) and Healthy SSj Goku (Android Arc) vs. SSj Vegeta (Android Arc) and SSj Mirai Trunks (Android Arc)
- MSSJ Kid Gohan (Cell Games) vs. Perfect Cell (vs.Goku) and MSSj Goku (Cell Games)
- MSSJ Kid Gohan (Cell Games) vs. 7 Cell Jrs.
- Piccolo (Android Arc,Pre Kami fusion) vs. 100% Final Form Freeza (Namek)
- Piccolo (Android Arc,Pre Kami fusion) vs. SSj Goku (Yardrat)
- Piccolo (Cell Games) vs. 50% MSSj Goku (Cell Games)
- SSj Vegeta (Post ROSAT 1st Time) vs. SSj Grade 3 Mirai Trunks (Post ROSAT 1st Time)
- SSj Vegeta (Android Arc) vs. Dr.Gero (Post Absorption) and Android 19 (Post Absorption)
- SSj Vegeta (Android Arc) vs. Mirai Android 18 (vs.Mirai Gohan/Trunks)

Kid gohan takes this.

Goku-gohan due to IT.

Goku - cell take this VERY easily.

my big greeny ins't up there yet to challenge the strongest in the universe

Same as above, but yadrat goku also has IT & is stronger.

This time , piccolo takes this without much trouble

Trunks destroys

Vegeta wins if they don't have absorbing device, otherwise androids.

#18 , this is the closest battle of this list. She's gonna get hurt

If Son Gohan had trained with Piccolo following the Cell Games how far could this hypothetical Gohan go if he were to have fought all of the same opposition he had faced after defeating Cell (Perfect Full Power) in canon? Keep in mind that this said Gohan learned from his shortcomings during his youth and became able to rid himself of them completely, meaning no moments of hesitation, arrogance, or cockiness happened to him after growing up during the seven years of peace before Babidi and Dabura came along...

If gohan trained with piccolo, they both might've been much stronger than SPC , & gohan even more than main vegeta.
Assuming that event go the same , gohan kills dabura , piccolo kills babidi & they all kill buu with gohan taking the lead.
Goku fights vegeta & beats him , teaches kids fusion & leaves to otherworld.
No mystic , no mr buu , no satan saviour

Want to know what are your toughts on those:

1) PUI PUI vs JEICE and BUTTER

2) Paikuhan vs perfect CELL (before-zenkai boost)

3) a par of CELL JR vs GOTEN and TRUNKS (without fusion)

4) FREEZA (namek saga) vs ABO and KADO

6) YAJIROBI vs TAO PAI PAI

7) REJJIK (GT) vs Perfect CELL (before-zenkai boost)

Guldo vs Para Para Brothers (GT)

1. Pui-pui
2. Perfect cell , pikkon was only equal to KK + SS goku
3. One jr is enough
4. Freeza stomps if he goes to final form
5. ???
6. Yajirobe stomps any version of tao
7. , 8. No idea

Majin Perfect Cell vs Super Saiyan 2 Gohan (Cell Games)

Majin cell takes this

Saiyans arc: Post-Oozaru Vegeta vs Nappa.

Vegeta still disintegrates Nappa

Vegeta post he got his tail cut off? Well, nappa looks above & stomps on him by turning into ozaru.
If we remove his tail , even then , nappa takes this.

Hypothetical Golden Freeza (Namek Arc) vs. 2nd Form Cooler

Golden freeza was a big boost over his 100% form , who cooler wasn't much stronger than. Goldie takes this.
(I'm assuming this is 5th form cooler)

Another gaunlet
SSj Goten vs :

- 100% Final Form Freeza
- SSj Goku (Freeza Saga)
- Semi Perfect Cell
- Cell Junior
- Piccolo (Boo Saga)
- MSSj Goku (Cell Games)
- Kaioshin
- Perfect Cell (Surpressed vs. Goku)
- MSSj Kid Gohan (Cell Games)

Assuming you mean post rosat , he stops at a cell jr.

Here's some fights:

• SSJ Goten (Post ROSAT) vs. SSJ Gohan (Beginning of Buu Arc)
  
  South Kaioshin (Anime) vs. SSJ3 Goku (Buu Arc/Dead Body)
  
  Hypothetical SSJ Future Trunks (Buu Arc) vs. SSJ Kid Trunks (Pre ROSAT) (What if Future Trunks came back during the events of Buu Arc. Do you all think he got significantly stronger or not at all?)
  
  Mighty Mask (SSJ) vs. Piccolo (Buu Arc) (Is Mighty Mask's Costume that much of a hindrance?)
  
  Hypothetical SSJ3 Gogeta (BOG) vs. SSJ Vegetto (Buu Arc)

Gohan still wins , but with a hell lot of trouble. Goten realy needs to play smart if he wants to win.

SS3 goku , he has IT , which is a big factor

Future trunks stomps. Make it post rosat , & then it is less of a stomp but still the same result.

Piccolo tells them to remove their costume & go all out vs him , & after beating them , he remarks on how strong they are & how big potential they have.

SS3 gogeta stomps. IMO , SS2 gogeta is enough , but SS gogeta loses badly against SS vegetto.

[Khin]

New Fights

- Kid Gohan (Saiyan Arc,Battle w/ Vegeta) vs. Bardock (DB Minus)
- SSj Goku (Boo Arc) vs. LSSj Broli (Movie 8 )
- Kibito vs. Yakon
- Goku (Post Healing Machine,No Kaioken) vs. Vegeta (Trunks Arrival)
- Shisami (DBS) vs. Recoome
- Perfect Cell (Surpressed vs.Goku) vs. Kaioshin
- SSj2 Vegeta (Pre Majin) vs. Kibitoshin
- SSj2 Vegeta (Pre Majin) vs. SSj2 Kid Gohan (Cell Games)
- SSj Gotenks (Pre ROSAT) vs. Grey Boo
- Piccolo (Boo Arc) vs. Cell Junior
- Hypothetical SSj3 Gogeta (Boo Arc) vs. Ultimate Gohan
- Hypothetical SSj3 Gogeta (Boo Arc) vs. Bootenks

[Berserker1921]

New Fights

- Kid Gohan (Saiyan Arc,Battle w/ Vegeta) vs. Bardock (DB Minus)
- SSj Goku (Boo Arc) vs. LSSj Broli (Movie 8 )
- Kibito vs. Yakon
- Goku (Post Healing Machine,No Kaioken) vs. Vegeta (Trunks Arrival)
- Shisami (DBS) vs. Recoome
- Perfect Cell (Surpressed vs.Goku) vs. Kaioshin
- SSj2 Vegeta (Pre Majin) vs. Kibitoshin
- SSj2 Vegeta (Pre Majin) vs. SSj2 Kid Gohan (Cell Games)
- SSj Gotenks (Pre ROSAT) vs. Grey Boo
- Piccolo (Boo Arc) vs. Cell Junior
- Hypothetical SSj3 Gogeta (Boo Arc) vs. Ultimate Gohan
- Hypothetical SSj3 Gogeta (Boo Arc) vs. Bootenks

1. Bardock was around 10,000-30,000, he stops poor gohan.
2. Goku. In this form I imagine he is almost super perfect cell level.
3. Idk. I think Yakon. Since kaioshin was nervous about babadis fighters.
4.Vegeta. I imagine vegeta to have 4-10 million in power. While Goku was 3-6. So vegeta.
5. Idk, I think Recoome wins. Since Shisami is as strong dadoria.
6. Kaioshin stomps.
7. Kibitoshin, I think is a mid to high tier ssj2.
8. Vegeta beats him with mid to high difficultly.
9. Gotenks stomps.
10. Piccolo, I would imagine at this level is as strong full power perfect cell.
11. Gogeta, stomps. Gohan has no chance.
12. Gogeta, once again stomps. Even if they don't use the earnings. By fusing as rivals, they're power is greater.

[Berserker1921]

1.Super buu absorbed (vegito, gogeta ssj3, ultimate gohan, gotenks ssj3, and piccolo) vs Final form Frieza (RoF)
2. Buuieza vs 70% Beerus?
3. Piccolo (RoF) porta fusion with Paikan (dbz filler) vs fat boo?
4. Hidregann and Janemba vs Buuhan?

[Pocket-God]

1.Super buu absorbed (vegito, gogeta ssj3, ultimate gohan, gotenks ssj3, and piccolo) vs Final form Freeza (RoF)
2. Buuieza vs 70% Beerus?
3. Piccolo (RoF) porta fusion with Paikan (dbz filler) vs fat boo?
4. Hidregann and Janemba vs Buuhan?

I don't see that Frieza being much stronger than Buuhan so yeah he gets raped.

So Super Buu + Gold Frieza? yeah Buuieza takes this, they'd probably beat 100% Beerus as well.

The green fusion i suppose.

Both of them are around Buutenks tier IMO so together they should be able to beat Buuhan.

[DanielSSJ]

New Fights

- Kid Gohan (Saiyan Arc,Battle w/ Vegeta) vs. Bardock (DB Minus)
- SSj Goku (Boo Arc) vs. LSSj Broli (Movie 8 )
- Kibito vs. Yakon
- Goku (Post Healing Machine,No Kaioken) vs. Vegeta (Trunks Arrival)
- Shisami (DBS) vs. Recoome
- Perfect Cell (Surpressed vs.Goku) vs. Kaioshin
- SSj2 Vegeta (Pre Majin) vs. Kibitoshin
- SSj2 Vegeta (Pre Majin) vs. SSj2 Kid Gohan (Cell Games)
- SSj Gotenks (Pre ROSAT) vs. Grey Boo
- Piccolo (Boo Arc) vs. Cell Junior
- Hypothetical SSj3 Gogeta (Boo Arc) vs. Ultimate Gohan
- Hypothetical SSj3 Gogeta (Boo Arc) vs. Bootenks

- Even if DB Minus Bardock is weaker than the 10,000 he had in the TV Special, he's still way stronger than Gohan, who was barely pushing 1,000.
- Goku wins with major difficulty.
- Yakon, because Kibito's a bitch.
- Goku still has a slight advantage, even without Kaioken.
- Only Tagoma was said to have surpassed the Ginyu Force, so Shisame gets his shit stomped.
- Perfect Cell would have a slight power advantage, on top of his regeneration and superior fighting skills. Cell wins with slight difficulty.
- SSJ2 Vegeta is a bit weaker, but is still more skilled than Kibitoshin, so he wins.
- Vegeta and Kid Gohan are about the same strength. Unless if Gohan can get a rage boost, Vegeta's greater experience and ruthlessness decides the match.
- Gotenks wins if he doesn't screw around. Otherwise Grey Boo may absorb him or turn him to candy.
- Fairly close, but Piccolo still loses.
- Gohan can win if he can stall for 5 minutes. Doesn't seem all that likely, though.
- Bootenks stomps.

[ShadowDude112]

Arale Norimaki vs Beerus at 100% power. I feel like my girl Arale would win, but what do you guys think?
BoG Goku pre-SSG vs Perfect Cell. Since Beerus said that Goku would have to go SSJ to beat Freeza at that point, would Goku need to go to SSJ2 to beat Cell still? Or is his regular Super Saiyan form enough?
Abocado vs Final Form Freeza 100% power Namek arc

[Darkron2151]

New Fights

- Kid Gohan (Saiyan Arc,Battle w/ Vegeta) vs. Bardock (DB Minus)
- SSj Goku (Boo Arc) vs. LSSj Broli (Movie 8 )
- Kibito vs. Yakon
- Goku (Post Healing Machine,No Kaioken) vs. Vegeta (Trunks Arrival)
- Shisami (DBS) vs. Recoome
- Perfect Cell (Surpressed vs.Goku) vs. Kaioshin
- SSj2 Vegeta (Pre Majin) vs. Kibitoshin
- SSj2 Vegeta (Pre Majin) vs. SSj2 Kid Gohan (Cell Games)
- SSj Gotenks (Pre ROSAT) vs. Grey Boo
- Piccolo (Boo Arc) vs. Cell Junior
- Hypothetical SSj3 Gogeta (Boo Arc) vs. Ultimate Gohan
- Hypothetical SSj3 Gogeta (Boo Arc) vs. Bootenks

1. I give it to Bardock. Gohan lacks the power and fighting skills. His only hope is an angry Masenko.
2. I have Movie 8 Broly around Full Power Perfect Cell level. Goku is a lot stronger than his Cell Games self, but not to close the gap. Broly win.
3. Gohan said that both himself and Goku without Super Saiyan could beat Yakon. Since Kibito is only around Gohan's base level according to Daiz and alone, I don't see him beating Yakon.
4. I don't see Vegeta training all that much in the pursuit of Goku out in Space. At least not enough to close the gap. Goku wins with good strategy and decent difficulty.
5. Shisami deflected ki blasts from Base Gohan. That alone puts him at a considerable level, at least above the Ginyu force.
6. Cell is more versatile and slightly more powerful than Kaioshin, as far as fighting style and techniques. Clkose fight, but I give it to Cell if Kaioshin can't freeze him.
7. Very close, but I give it to Vegeta (though barely). Kibitoshin has a lot of techniques like paralysis, teleportation, etc. that could get the drop on Vegeta, but Vegeta has more battle sence and has a small power advantage.
8. Gohan wrecks him. Gohan rage boosted state wasn't too far off of SSJ2 Goku, who was said to dwarf Vegeta and force him to go Majin. Unless Vegeta uses heavy tactics, I don't see him winning.
9. I have Gotenks at SSJ3 Goku level, yet I have Grey Buu at Pure Buu level, so I have Gotenks sooner or later getting tired out and Buu outlasting him. He doesn't have his good techniques like Super Ghost Kamikaze, so I don't see him winning at somewhat equal powers.
10. I don't have Piccolo getting immensely stronger in 7 years doing only maintenance training. Cell Jr. still has a good power advantage and good techniques. Cell Jr. wrecks with low/mid difficulty.
11. Gogeta has a secent power advantage over Gohan and isn't known to screw around (no GT). He gets the job done in the 5 minutes he has.
12. Buutenks, on the other hand, is much stronger and more resilient than Gohan, and even has a bit of a power advantage on Gogeta. Gogeta gets wrecked.

[Lord Beerus]

Arale Norimaki vs Beerus at 100% power. I feel like my girl Arale would win, but what do you guys think?
BoG Goku pre-SSG vs Perfect Cell. Since Beerus said that Goku would have to go SSJ to beat Freeza at that point, would Goku need to go to SSJ2 to beat Cell still? Or is his regular Super Saiyan form enough?
Abocado vs Final Form Freeza 100% power Namek arc

- Not even the power of gag humor can save Arale from Beerus. He finger flicks her. That came out wrong.
- Goku gets crushed. If we go Beerus' statement in Battle Of Gods, Freeza > Base Saiyans. That's just how it is.
- Freeza gets one shotted. Abacado was able to survive an onslaught from Base Gotenks.

[DanielSSJ]

Arale Norimaki vs Beerus at 100% power. I feel like my girl Arale would win, but what do you guys think?
BoG Goku pre-SSG vs Perfect Cell. Since Beerus said that Goku would have to go SSJ to beat Freeza at that point, would Goku need to go to SSJ2 to beat Cell still? Or is his regular Super Saiyan form enough?
Abocado vs Final Form Freeza 100% power Namek arc

- Arale was described to only be stronger than Piccolo Daimao Arc Goku. Gag power can only get you so far.
- I have Pre God Super Saiyan Goku and Perfect Cell at around the same power. I'm not sure who would win, but Cell's regeneration and other abilities gives him a huge advantage.
- I'm assuming you mean Aka (the fusion between Abo and Kado), who, in my head, is only around 50% Freeza, at best. Freeza sweeps.

[ShadowDude112]

Arale Norimaki vs Beerus at 100% power. I feel like my girl Arale would win, but what do you guys think?
BoG Goku pre-SSG vs Perfect Cell. Since Beerus said that Goku would have to go SSJ to beat Freeza at that point, would Goku need to go to SSJ2 to beat Cell still? Or is his regular Super Saiyan form enough?
Abocado vs Final Form Freeza 100% power Namek arc

- Not even the power of gag humor can save Arale from Beerus. He finger flicks her. That came out wrong.
- Goku gets crushed. If we go Beerus' statement in Battle Of Gods, Freeza > Base Saiyans. That's just how it is.
- Freeza gets one shotted. Abacado was able to survive an onslaught from Base Gotenks.

My Cell question was mainly what form would Goku from BoG have to use to beat Perfect Cell? Would Super Saiyan be enough or would he need Super Saiyan 2? Not if Base Goku could take him.

[Polyphase Avatron]

Golden Freeza, with the form mastered, vs. Champa.

[Khin]

Arale Norimaki vs Beerus at 100% power. I feel like my girl Arale would win, but what do you guys think?
BoG Goku pre-SSG vs Perfect Cell. Since Beerus said that Goku would have to go SSJ to beat Freeza at that point, would Goku need to go to SSJ2 to beat Cell still? Or is his regular Super Saiyan form enough?
Abocado vs Final Form Freeza 100% power Namek arc

- Feats Arale is star level,So even Super Perfect Cell stomps him while normal Arale in around 23rd Budokai Goku level as said by Toriyama.Beerus xeleestomps.
- Goku stomps,even if Goku is still below Freeza at base,he still can stomp Cell in SSj (At least on my own Power Level list)
- You mean Aka ? I have him around Android 16 level,Freeza gets wrecked.

Golden Freeza, with the form mastered, vs. Champa.

Champa wrecks.

[Noah]

New matches:

- Golden Freeza (Super/No stamina issues) x SSGSS Goku (Super) & SSGSS Vegeta (Super)

- Vados x Beerus (Full power) & Champa (Full power)

[Lord Beerus]

Arale Norimaki vs Beerus at 100% power. I feel like my girl Arale would win, but what do you guys think?
BoG Goku pre-SSG vs Perfect Cell. Since Beerus said that Goku would have to go SSJ to beat Freeza at that point, would Goku need to go to SSJ2 to beat Cell still? Or is his regular Super Saiyan form enough?
Abocado vs Final Form Freeza 100% power Namek arc

- Not even the power of gag humor can save Arale from Beerus. He finger flicks her. That came out wrong.
- Goku gets crushed. If we go Beerus' statement in Battle Of Gods, Freeza > Base Saiyans. That's just how it is.
- Freeza gets one shotted. Abacado was able to survive an onslaught from Base Gotenks.

My Cell question was mainly what form would Goku from BoG have to use to beat Perfect Cell? Would Super Saiyan be enough or would he need Super Saiyan 2? Not if Base Goku could take him.

Oh, sorry, missed that part. I think SSJ2 would definitely be enough to get the job done by the time of Battle Of Gods for Goku

New matches:

- Golden Freeza (Super/No stamina issues) x SSGSS Goku (Super) & SSGSS Vegeta (Super)

- Vados x Beerus (Full power) & Champa (Full power)

- Golden Freeza kicks both their butts easily
- Vados wipes the with the Brothers Of Destruction.

[Draconic]

New matches:

- Golden Freeza (Super/No stamina issues) x SSGSS Goku (Super) & SSGSS Vegeta (Super)

- Vados x Beerus (Full power) & Champa (Full power)

Goku and Vegeta take this if they work together and don't step on eachother's toes. Hell, they might take it anyway, since Whis says in RoF that if they work together they might take on Beerus, who is leagues above Frieza. Also, in Super, Beerus says that the two would win against Frieza if both faught at the same time BEFORE Frieza weakness comes into play.

I think it's the same case here, like above. If Beerus and Champa cooperate, they take this (with difficulty). Otherwise, Vados swipes the floor with them.


EDIT: Regarding BoG Goku vs Perfect Cell. In the Super manga chapter 1, Goku trains by mentally fighting his greatest foes. He uses SSJ vs Frieza, but goes SSJ2 vs Cell. Since that is Goku's own interpretation, I think he would need the second form to win. Hell, by that time he probably stomps Cell, since his SSJ2 was stronger than Gohan's during that time even by the Buu Saga. However, I don't think his SSJ form got too much stronger, since it was already at it's peak back then.

[Hot Rod]

Majin Janemba vs Baby Hatchiyack.

[ShadowDude112]

- You mean Aka ? I have him around Android 16 level,Freeza gets wrecked.

I'm positive when Abo and Cado combine they're called Abocado. Hell, when TFS talk about it in their DBcember, they say Abocado, and Gotenks calls him that when they fuse. Where did this Aka thing come from?
EDIT: Never mind. I was wrong.