Current Super arc is a rehash of Otherworld Tournament arc

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Current Super arc is a rehash of Otherworld Tournament arc

Post by Nex Carnifex » Wed Jan 13, 2016 2:56 am

2 gods have a rivalry and decide to settle things in a tournament to see who has the better fighters.

It's also sort of copying the popular DBZ multiverse fan comic.

Wish they could come up with more original ideas.
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Re: Current Super arc is a rehash of Otherworld Tournament a

Post by Chuquita » Wed Jan 13, 2016 3:05 am

I'm still not convinced this tournament will play out to its conclusion; if only because in the manga there hasn't been one shown from start to uninterrupted end since the 23rd tournament (24th and 25th were off-screen, Cell Games stopped being a "tournament" pretty quick, 26th was interrupted by the Buu arc, 27th was off-screen, and 28th was interrupted by Gokû flying off with Uub). Coupled with the (imo) suspicious domed ceiling, I think something will interrupt this tournament and the plot will switch up into something else. But I could be wrong.
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Re: Current Super arc is a rehash of Otherworld Tournament a

Post by Vijay » Wed Jan 13, 2016 3:15 am

Small difference

OtherWorld Tournament was much superior in terms of comedy, action, character development & overall sense of fun

Shtick with Kais were pretty amusing, Paikuhan was a badass, Goku's various fights were both comedic & epic. A great mini-arc tbh

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Re: Current Super arc is a rehash of Otherworld Tournament a

Post by MozillaVulpix » Wed Jan 13, 2016 3:55 am

Vijay wrote:OtherWorld Tournament was much superior in terms of comedy, action, character development & overall sense of fun
Really? I know people hate Super, but saying that before the arc even STARTS?

And you could say it's a rehash of the Otherworld Tournament, but

1) The stakes are higher. The winner gets to keep the Earth. And I don't think Universe 6 winning would be a good outcome for the main cast.

2) I'm half-convinced there's something bigger at play. Like the 25th Budokai. I'd be surprised that they'd reboot the series simply for a tournament arc, and nothing more.
I could have gotten into anything...and yet I chose the story aimed at young Japanese boys about martial arts, and later about super-powerful aliens punching each other really hard.

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Re: Current Super arc is a rehash of Otherworld Tournament a

Post by Khin » Wed Jan 13, 2016 3:56 am

Vijay wrote:Small difference

OtherWorld Tournament was much superior in terms of comedy, action, character development & overall sense of fun

Shtick with Kais were pretty amusing, Paikuhan was a badass, Goku's various fights were both comedic & epic. A great mini-arc tbh
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Re: Current Super arc is a rehash of Otherworld Tournament a

Post by Hellspawn28 » Wed Jan 13, 2016 4:03 am

Nex Carnifex wrote:2 gods have a rivalry and decide to settle things in a tournament to see who has the better fighters.

It's also sort of copying the popular DBZ multiverse fan comic.

Wish they could come up with more original ideas.
Multiverse is a fan comic. It's not official and should not be compare too.
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Re: Current Super arc is a rehash of Otherworld Tournament a

Post by Khin » Wed Jan 13, 2016 4:11 am

Hellspawn28 wrote:Multiverse is a fan comic. It's not official and should not be compare too.
And also,does anyone really think Toriyama checks out Multiverse or even browse the internet ?

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Re: Current Super arc is a rehash of Otherworld Tournament a

Post by Lionel » Wed Jan 13, 2016 4:18 am

Multiverse may not be canon, but at least it tries to be imaginative with its fights and characters so they're not so tedious and repetitive. The Champa arc hasn't given us much reason to believe that it will have anything different than the same quality of content we're receiving already. Maybe some of us will change our tune once we get to the meat of things. In the meantime, I think it might be best to maintain a cautious disposition while going into this arc.

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Re: Current Super arc is a rehash of Otherworld Tournament a

Post by Hellspawn28 » Wed Jan 13, 2016 4:54 am

DBM features AU versions of other characters. While Super is giving us six brand new original characters from another world. The blue Freeza guy looks similar to Freeza, but they are likely not link with each other whatsoever.
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Re: Current Super arc is a rehash of Otherworld Tournament a

Post by Gyt Kaliba » Wed Jan 13, 2016 11:48 am

The fact that some are so hellbent on disliking Super that they're ready to trash an arc that hasn't even really started yet...ugh. I hope you also immediately discounted the Android arc for it's Terminator roots then, without giving it time to get going first.
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Re: Current Super arc is a rehash of Otherworld Tournament a

Post by Wezenheim » Wed Jan 13, 2016 11:58 am

Gyt Kaliba wrote:The fact that some are so hellbent on disliking Super that they're ready to trash an arc that hasn't even really started yet...ugh. I hope you also immediately discounted the Android arc for it's Terminator roots then, without giving it time to get going first.
Or the fact that some elements were similar to the World's Strongest movie. Not a ton mind you, but they do share some.

As others have said, this arc hasn't even really started yet. I understand people not liking Super, anyone has that right and everyone should voice their opinion, but we at least have to let this tournament play out before we label it as a rehash just yet.

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Re: Current Super arc is a rehash of Otherworld Tournament a

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Wed Jan 13, 2016 12:05 pm

The Cell Games were a rehash of the 23rd Budokai. Tournament where the last fight was against a regenerating green guy.

Fat Buu was a rehash of Dodoria. Both were fat pink guys who were told what to do by people smaller than them. They both were blown up by Vegeta.

Freeza was a rehash of Vegeta. Short alien royalty who proclaimed himself "the strongest in the universe" and got beat by Goku.

The Bear Bandit was a rehash of the Pterodactyl was a rehash of the giant fish. Oversized animals that were involved with general gag-based shenanigans with Goku.

Can we seriously just ban the word "rehash," already? Maybe filter it to "Imma throw this word out because it's too hard to come up with an actual legitimate constructive criticism."
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Re: Current Super arc is a rehash of Otherworld Tournament a

Post by FortuneSSJ » Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:21 pm

Dragon Ball anime has been dead so long, that Toriyama may come up with ideas that other fans already had. SSB hair color is other example.
This is a big fanbase.

Only because we are going multiverse route, doesn't mean its 100% the same.

I don't read DB Multiverse, but seems like all the other universes are just different version of the main one, with the same characters.

Toriyama came up with the idea of having unique/twin universes and a brilliant formula to find out each one pair. No one saw it comng,
People thought it would be either like DBM or everything different. And despiste Universe 6 be a twin universe, we're still having new characters.

Does DBM even have new characters?!

If you want to use the word "rehash", at least say its a rehash of Baba's Tournament/Otherworld Tournament arc. Its 5 vs 5. :lol:
But going by that logic, there's a lot of rehash.

U6 tournament is also just the beginning of something bigger, like the Buu arc.
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Re: Current Super arc is a rehash of Otherworld Tournament a

Post by Xeztin » Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:29 pm

You should just make one big thread, call it rehashes of rehashes and make a big long list to get it out of your system.

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Re: Current Super arc is a rehash of Otherworld Tournament a

Post by LuckyCat » Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:39 pm

Everything's a rehash of Shakespeare. Gasp!

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Re: Current Super arc is a rehash of Otherworld Tournament a

Post by Lord Beerus » Wed Jan 13, 2016 5:12 pm

And yet the Otherworld Tournament arc is a rehash of every other tournament Dragon Ball has ever had. I think it's best to wait to see how the arc plays out before we pass judgement. Too many people are jumping the gun on Super, and quite frankly, it's getting annoying.

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Re: Current Super arc is a rehash of Otherworld Tournament a

Post by Chuquita » Wed Jan 13, 2016 5:21 pm

That's why I don't post much in the episode threads outside of my initial reaction post to the episode itself; those threads all fill up with negativity after a while.
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Re: Current Super arc is a rehash of Otherworld Tournament a

Post by BlazingFiddlesticks » Wed Jan 13, 2016 11:50 pm

Good. It was great the first time, Toriyama's no stranger to tournaments, and if Togashi could ride half of Yu Yu Hakusho off the concept I have no doubt Toriyama could cook up something farther-reaching too.
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Most certainly. I do not know how so many people have failed to piece together that movie adaption arcs are destined to fail. If Super is bad, it will be bad doing Super things.
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Re: Current Super arc is a rehash of Otherworld Tournament a

Post by Lionel » Thu Jan 14, 2016 5:29 am

It's true that quite a number of the characters in Multiverse happen to be virtually identical to their original canonical counterparts. There's also quite a number of divergences in each of the respective universes that have allowed for drastic changes to take place in the backgrounds and personalities of these characters like with the Kakarot from Universe 13 and Zen Buu from Universe 4. The comic isn't short on originally developed characters and fighting styles, neither. You have the technologically advanced Heloits from Universe 19, the ultimate fused Namekian warrior of Gast Carcolh from Universe 7 and the magically powerful XXI from Universe 5. Their individual histories have helped to influence the manner in which they fight -- the same can't really be said of the characters in Super where such features are mostly aesthetical. That could change with these new characters in the Champa arc.

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Re: Current Super arc is a rehash of Otherworld Tournament a

Post by Khin » Thu Jan 14, 2016 6:08 am

Chuquita wrote:That's why I don't post much in the episode threads outside of my initial reaction post to the episode itself; those threads all fill up with negativity after a while.
*Goes to the Super episode discussion to see the content,pro's and con's of the episode only to see another big pile of Animation whining,GT vs. Super discussion and fan's nitpicking even the most minor things* I feel you.

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