The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[DanielSSJ]

New matches:

- Golden Freeza (Super/No stamina issues) x SSGSS Goku (Super) & SSGSS Vegeta (Super)

- Vados x Beerus (Full power) & Champa (Full power)

- If Goku and Vegeta work together, they can pull a win with moderate difficulty.
- Assuming Vados has that "move without thinking" fighting style that Whis has, Beerus and Champa stand no chance.

[ShadowBardock89]

Raditz vs. Raspberry
Nappa vs. Appule

[Lord Beerus]

Raditz vs. Raspberry
Nappa vs. Appule

Most of Freeza's footsoldiers has BP ranging from 1,000 - 4,000, so Nappa wins his fight with no problem. I'm somewhat conived that Raspberry BP was greater to some degree over to Raditz's BP. So I'm backing Raspberry to defeat Raditz with mild effort.

[nickzambuto]

Raditz vs. Raspberry
Nappa vs. Appule

Nappa stomps Appule. I really want to say Raditz is superior to Raspberry just because he's a Saiyan.

[IDreamtIWasABee]

Arale Norimaki vs Beerus at 100% power. I feel like my girl Arale would win, but what do you guys think?

You're right. Arale is Squirrel Girl tier. She'd take Billy home and make him her cat.

[ShadowBardock89]

Raditz vs. Raspberry
Nappa vs. Appule

Most of Freeza's footsoldiers has BP ranging from 1,000 - 4,000, so Nappa wins his fight with no problem. I'm somewhat conived that Raspberry BP was greater to some degree over to Raditz's BP. So I'm backing Raspberry to defeat Raditz with mild effort.

You're forgetting that Raspberry uses a blaster cannon to fire energy (which means he can't do it on his own), at least Raditz can do this:

[Berserker1921]

Hatchiyack Vs Darbura?
Broly (movie 8 ) and Bojack vs Super Perfect Cell?
Hypothetical baby golden frieza vs Champa?
Golden Cell vs Ssj blue Vegito?
Golden Frieza, Cooler, Cold vs Beerus?

[Pantalones]

Broly (movie 8 ) and Bojack vs Super Perfect Cell?

Broly and Bojack should both be closer to "regular" Perfect Cell than Super Perfect Cell.

If you assume Super Perfect Cell is at or at least near SSj2 Gohan's power, Bojack won't survive a single blow from him and Broly probably doesn't fare too much better considering that even after a power boost he doesn't end up that far ahead of the weaker 7-years-later Gohan. Even together they probably wouldn't last long.

Even if Super Perfect Cell isn't nearly as strong as SSj2 Gohan, he's still a good bit above regular Perfect Cell's level, which should be enough to take on Bojack and Broly together. It'd probably be a lot like Goku vs. Jeice and Burter -- one super-skilled, super-strong guy taking out two pretty-skilled, pretty-strong guys without too much effort.

Arale Norimaki vs Beerus at 100% power. I feel like my girl Arale would win, but what do you guys think?

For comparison...

The most impressive thing Arale ever did in terms of raw power -- though it was very much in "gag mode," so this honestly shouldn't even count considering that her "real" level of power has only been compared to Dragonball era characters (she's clearly much stronger than General Blue and the Goku of that time; and later on wasn't she said to be "probably still stronger than Goku" as of 23rd Budokai according to Toriyama, or something along those lines?) -- was split a planet in half with a punch. Beerus did the same thing, no gags, while going about his day-to-day God of Destruction job duties, probably only using the tiniest fraction of his full power since he hadn't found anyone who gave him a fight yet at that point... with a finger tap.

Beerus at less than 1% power wins effortlessly, gags or no gags. Beerus at 100% power hits Arale so hard that the force of the blow travels backward through time and prevents her from ever being built in the first place (...even though DBZ time travel doesn't work that way. Let's just say it's a gag character getting beaten by having their "gag power" forcibly punched inside-out.)

Seriously people, just because you like Arale as a character doesn't mean she automatically needs to be the strongest thing in this or any other universe. There's no need to make her into another Broly here...

[Khin]

Hatchiyack Vs Darbura?
Broly (movie 8 ) and Bojack vs Super Perfect Cell?
Golden Cell vs Ssj blue Vegito?
Golden Freeza, Cooler, Cold vs Beerus?

- Dabra turns Hatchiyak into stone.
- Super Perfect Cell wrecks Bojack and Broli at the same time.
- Vegetto one shots.
- I doubt Cold or Coola will be as strong as Freeza if they trained.Beerus destroys the Cold family.

[Pocket-God]

Hatchiyack Vs Darbura?
Broly (movie 8 ) and Bojack vs Super Perfect Cell?
Hypothetical baby golden Freeza vs Champa?
Golden Cell vs Ssj blue Vegito?
Golden Freeza, Cooler, Cold vs Beerus?

I never actually watched the movie/ova that Hatchi was in sooo *shrug*
Eh i get the feeling of team 1 could solo.
baby golden frieza? if you mean Bebi from GT is control Gold Frieza then yeah Champa get's stomped.
Vegito more times then not i suppose, unless of course he fails to completely kill Cell with his first blast and Cell comes back as platinum Cell.
So all 3 are gold mode? If they got the same power increase that Frieza did well then Cold Family > Beerus but if it's juts gold added to their current power then Beerus > Cold family

[ZombieVito]

Beerus [90% FP] vs Monaka
Beerus [80% FP] vs Golden Freeza [No stamina issues]
Beerus [70% FP] vs SSB Goku [RoF arc]

[Khin]

Beerus [90% FP] vs Monaka
Beerus [80% FP] vs Golden Freeza [No stamina issues]
Beerus [70% FP] vs SSB Goku [RoF arc]

- Monaka is bit stronger (Since he is very close to Beerus,i have him around 92% - 95% of Beerus' full power ) but i think Beerus can pull this out for the win.
- Exact equals,but none of Freeza's dirty tricks would work on Beerus.Beerus wins after a while.
- Equals again.But Goku have too many weaknesses and Beerus can just bust the planet Freeza style if he start to lose.Beerus wins after a long battle.

[apex_pretador]

New Fights

- Kid Gohan (Saiyan Arc,Battle w/ Vegeta) vs. Bardock (DB Minus)
- SSj Goku (Boo Arc) vs. LSSj Broli (Movie 8 )
- Kibito vs. Yakon
- Goku (Post Healing Machine,No Kaioken) vs. Vegeta (Trunks Arrival)
- Shisami (DBS) vs. Recoome
- Perfect Cell (Surpressed vs.Goku) vs. Kaioshin
- SSj2 Vegeta (Pre Majin) vs. Kibitoshin
- SSj2 Vegeta (Pre Majin) vs. SSj2 Kid Gohan (Cell Games)
- SSj Gotenks (Pre ROSAT) vs. Grey Boo
- Piccolo (Boo Arc) vs. Cell Junior
- Hypothetical SSj3 Gogeta (Boo Arc) vs. Ultimate Gohan
- Hypothetical SSj3 Gogeta (Boo Arc) vs. Bootenks

- How is gohan supposed to win? If you even consider ozaru gohan, then you also have to consider ozaru bardock, and I'm fairly certain that bardock is fairly ahead of gohan in power, no matter how you see it.

- Goku became a lot stronger, but not strong enough to beat broly on his own. Add piccolo, vegeta , or gohan , & they will win.

- Yakon
- Vegeta wins with ease
- Recoome, shisami hasnt surpassed ginyu force. If you take DBZ numbers into consideration, with base gohan being SPC tier, then shisami one shots.
- I have kaioshin good deal stronger than CG goku, but good deal weaker than FP PC. IMO, he can physically beat cell at this power, but he can't get a true win if this is a death match.
- Kibitoshin. He considered himself to be powered up really vastly. So, he must be significantly stronger than SS2's.
-Vegeta. He may , or may not , have power advantage, but he is 100 times the fighter gohan is.
- Grey buu without much trouble.
- Piccolo can take all 7 IMO one by one, at this point now.
- Gogeta one-shots
- Gogeta one-shots

1.Super buu absorbed (vegito, gogeta ssj3, ultimate gohan, gotenks ssj3, and piccolo) vs Final form Freeza (RoF)
2. Buuieza vs 70% Beerus?
3. Piccolo (RoF) porta fusion with Paikan (dbz filler) vs fat boo?
4. Hidregann and Janemba vs Buuhan?

1. Freeza still is too much
2. Buu[gold frieza]? Beerus anyways in a close battle.
3. This piccolohan must be able to take down buuhan
4. Janemba is one-shot material. Hirdy may cause problemws, but at best, he can stalemate buuhan, who can win by absorption too.

Arale Norimaki vs Beerus at 100% power. I feel like my girl Arale would win, but what do you guys think?
BoG Goku pre-SSG vs Perfect Cell. Since Beerus said that Goku would have to go SSJ to beat Freeza at that point, would Goku need to go to SSJ2 to beat Cell still? Or is his regular Super Saiyan form enough?
Abocado vs Final Form Freeza 100% power Namek arc

Beerus at 5%.

SS goku beats PC easily, but for SPC , he will have to try hard.

Freeza, no aka wins. He fought base gotenks & didn't get one-shot.

Golden Freeza, with the form mastered, vs. Champa.

He will need to train to master the form, & if he does so, he'll also get a bit stronger. But it still may not be enough to beat champa, who is around beerus level. He may be pushed to 80-90% however.

New matches:

- Golden Freeza (Super/No stamina issues) x SSGSS Goku (Super) & SSGSS Vegeta (Super)

- Vados x Beerus (Full power) & Champa (Full power)

Team takes this with ease as long as they don't fight each other.

Vados one shots both.

Raditz vs. Raspberry
Nappa vs. Appule

Saiyans. They are sent to conquer entire planets, & are experienced.

Hatchiyack Vs Darbura?
Broly (movie 8 ) and Bojack vs Super Perfect Cell?
Hypothetical baby golden Freeza vs Champa?
Golden Cell vs Ssj blue Vegito?
Golden Freeza, Cooler, Cold vs Beerus?

Hatchiyak gets a nice statue
Broly is fodder here , & if you mean untransformed bojack, he loses.
Champa wrecks
Vegetto is too much, really too much.
All golden? Beerus still destroys them. He will need to go all out for this.

Beerus [90% FP] vs Monaka
Beerus [80% FP] vs Golden Freeza [No stamina issues]
Beerus [70% FP] vs SSB Goku [RoF arc]

Beerus all rounds. He has his closest match vs goku, & barely wins due to skill, & despite maybe a small power disadvantage. He can even destroy the planet if he starts losing vs goku.
In both other cases, he has a power advantage.

[DanielSSJ]

Hatchiyack Vs Darbura?
Broly (movie 8 ) and Bojack vs Super Perfect Cell?
Hypothetical baby golden Freeza vs Champa?
Golden Cell vs SS Blue Vegetto?
Golden Freeza, Cooler, Cold vs Beerus?

- Dabura turns Hatchiyack to stone.
- Assuming Super Perfect Cell is about as strong as strong as SS2 Kid Gohan, then he wins with medium difficulty.
- Baby Golden Freeza would probably wreck Champa.
- Assuming that having one's power converted into God Ki doesn't affect the Potara Fusion boost, Vegetto absolutely destroys Golden Cell with zero effort.
- Freeza is stated to be the only one in his family that has his ridiculous level of power, so even if Cold and Cooler could go golden, they probably wouldn't be of much use. Beerus wrecks.

[Berserker1921]

Omega shenron porta fusion with Golden Frieza vs Whis?
Ssj blue vegito vs whis and vados (no time manipulation)?
Piccolo (fuses with young Kami, young piccolo sr, nail, and slug) vs Tagoma after training with Frieza?
Ssj blue Trunken vs ssj God vegito?
Buuieza vs Ssj God Vegito?
Ssj2 vegeta (pre majin) vs super perfect cell?

[apex_pretador]

NEW BATTLES:

A) Piccolo vs humans (tien, krillin, yamcha , chiatzu , yajirobe )

1. Old daimao vs humans
2. Piccolo (23rd TB) vs humans
3. Piccolo vs humans BoZ
4. Saiyan arc (nappa battle)
5. Android arc, humans can use KK x10
6. Cell games, humans can use fusion dance

B) Goku vs humans (tien, krillin, yamcha , chiatzu , yajirobe )

1. 23rd TB
2. BoZ
3. Goku vs humans + piccolo + nappa (saiyan battle)
4. Base goku vs humans , android arc (KK x5 allowed for humans)
5. Cell games, tired goku vs healthy humans, humans can use dance fusion.
6. SS3 goku vs humans, they can use potara & KK x10

[Pocket-God]

Omega shenron porta fusion with Golden Freeza vs Whis?
Ssj blue vegito vs whis and vados (no time manipulation)?
Piccolo (fuses with young Kami, young piccolo sr, nail, and slug) vs Tagoma after training with Freeza?
Ssj blue Trunken vs ssj God vegito?
Buuieza vs Ssj God Vegito?
Ssj2 vegeta (pre majin) vs super perfect cell?

Omega Shenron by himself roflstomps with one finger. adding golden frieza to him just makes this even more a horrid spite than it already is.
That pathetic three minute reverse isn't gonna save them from being murdered. Vegito wrecks.
I'm gonna go with Piccolo on this one.
Vegito obviously.
Probably Vegito....again.
Vegeta without much difficulty.

[Khin]

Omega shenron porta fusion with Golden Freeza vs Whis?
Ssj blue vegito vs whis and vados (no time manipulation)?
Piccolo (fuses with young Kami, young piccolo sr, nail, and slug) vs Tagoma after training with Freeza?
Ssj blue Trunken vs ssj God vegito?
Buuieza vs Ssj God Vegito?
Ssj2 vegeta (pre majin) vs super perfect cell?

- Omega's weak as hell compared to Freeza,it's like fusing Mr.Satan with SSj3 Goku.Whis finger flicks.
- I still have my theory of the God Ki decreasing the multiplyer for SSj forms,fusions etc..That's why Kibitoshin isnt that strong and the multipyer for SSj become way below when Goku become a God.So even Whis alone can beat him.
- Piccolo beat the living shit out of Tagoma but get's wrecked by Ginyu.
- Trunten is stronger,but the combined experience and skill by Goku and Vegeta will give him the win.
- The same as the first fight.Even Beerus can win this one.
- I have them as equals.But Cell's regeneration and the ability to survive in space will give him enough edge to win this one.

Omega Shenron by himself roflstomps with one finger. adding golden Freeza to him just makes this even more a horrid spite than it already is.

What makes you say that ? Super God Tiers are leagues above the GT Top Tiers that's it's not even funny.And Whis can just put Omega in his dimension and beat the shit out of him.

[DanielSSJ]

Omega Shenron potara fusion with Golden Freeza vs Whis?
SS Blue Vegetto vs Whis and Vados (no time manipulation)?
Piccolo (fuses with young Kami, young Piccolo Sr., Nail, and Slug) vs Tagoma after training with Freeza?
SS blue Trunken vs SS God Vegetto?
Booeeza vs SS God Vegetto?
SS2 Vegeta (pre-Majin) vs super perfect cell?

- GT, skip!
- Assuming the Potaras work just as well for Gods as they do mortals, then Vegetto would riggity-wreck Whis and Vados.
- Fusing with Piccolo Daimao alone let's Piccolo tango with Evil Boo, adding Slug into he mix makes this overkill.
- The only real difference would be that Vegetto's on a time limit (which really wouldn't matter, since he'd keep the majority of the God power anyways) and Goku and Vegeta are much stronger than Goten and Trunks, so Vegetto stomps.
- Adding Boo to the mix is inconcequential, unless this is a Potara fusion. Even so, based on my opinions on Potara fusion, Vegetto would end up much stronger than Freeza Boo anyways.
- They're dead even with each other, though Cell's regeneration and other abilities put's him at a huge advantage. Vegeta could win this, but he's gonna have to work for it.

NEW BATTLES:

A) Piccolo vs humans (Tenshinhan, Kuririn, Yamcha, Chaozu, Yajirobe)

1. Old Daimao vs humans
2. Piccolo (23rd TB) vs humans
3. Piccolo vs humans BoZ
4. Saiyan arc (Nappa battle)
5. Android arc, humans can use KK x10
6. Cell games, humans can use fusion dance

B) Goku vs humans (Tenshinhan, Kuririn, Yamcha , Chaozu , Yajirobe )

1. 23rd TB
2. BoZ
3. Goku vs humans + piccolo + nappa (saiyan battle)
4. Base goku vs humans , android arc (KK x5 allowed for humans)
5. Cell games, tired goku vs healthy humans, humans can use dance fusion.
6. SS3 goku vs humans, they can use potara & KK x10

A)
1. The only hope is that Tenshinhan can nail Daimao with a Kikoho, and even that's iffy.
2. Kami himself said that Piccolo would kill them all if Goku died.
3. Same as last time.
4. If all of humans gang up on him, and use their most broken techniques, they might have a chance. Otherwise, Piccolo one-shots them one after the other.
5. A Kaioken x10 would put the human characters in the neighborhood of the base Saiyans, and Piccolo is in the general Super Saiyan tier, soooo.
6. Even with Fusion Dance, the Earthling don't match up to Piccolo at all.

B)
1. Same as the Piccolo vs Humans fight.
2. Goku stomps.
3. All of them ganging up on him at once might work....until he breaks open the Kaioken, and blows every one away with a Kiai.
4. Assuming Goku can't use Kaioken, the humans still lose.
5. Goku still beats them.
6. Even with Potara and KK x10, the humans only get up to Android 18/17 levels. Goku ROFL stomps.

[nickzambuto]

Create a scenario in which Jeice can legitimately defeat Beerus.