"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[Chuquita]

I'm just happy we'll finally get more information next week via VJump. I want to know the real names of Team Champa's members and I want to know more about them.

[Hellspawn28]

It's annoys me when they said that the Yellow Bear is a copy of Buu. Other then being fat, they are likely have nothing in common with each other. Monster Buyon and Buu are both pink and fat too. No one calls Buu a copy of him.

[Chuquita]

Seeing as how they're going the route of not showing any "counterpart" characters (despite this being a "twin" universe and making Uni 6's god of destruction and attendant a brother and sister of Beerus and Whis when they could've made up entirely new designs for them and had them not "related" at all this is so bizarre Shueisha) I don't think the bear is Buu's counterpart either. He's possibly the "big eater" of the team and will be matched up against Buu because of that, but that's all.

At least next week we'll know.

[Lord Beerus]

Seeing as how they're going the route of not showing any "counterpart" characters (despite this being a "twin" universe and making Uni 6's god of destruction and attendant a brother and sister of Beerus and Whis when they could've made up entirely new designs for them and had them not "related" at all this is so bizarre Shueisha) I don't think the bear is Buu's counterpart either. He's possibly the "big eater" of the team and will be matched up against Buu because of that, but that's all.

Or maybe the bear had a fit and in-shape body, but when he was told he going to taking part in a tournament against the strongest warriors from another Universe, under stress and anxiety, he started binging on junk food. And when he start his first battle, he'll burn off all that excess fat in an instant.

[sintzu]

There would be nothing absurd if some of these guys are revealed to be on par or stronger than Goku or Vegeta, they're coming from an entirely new and unknown realm, with its own history, facts and events.

Exactly, it would be like us meeting Goku & Vegeta for the 1st time and saying their power level is absurd without knowing what they went through to get there.

[Pannaliciour]

But really what are the odds that some fighters of team Champa (or vice versa) are exactly equal to team Beerus. Somehow with all these variables in the universes they are equal.

[Zelvin]

Well, here's a thing. When Champa saw Goku and Vegeta, they were wearing the super-heavy sumo suits Whis stuck on them. Champa laughed to Vados about how slow Beerus' students are. I get the feeling Champa is a moron. Since it appears he was unaware that Goku and Vegeta were being made slower by the suits, and wasn't just their idea of battle attire. So, Goku and Vegeta may steamroll their opponents in this tournament, much to Champa's complete surprise. And then it's up to the remaining three against Piccolo, Buu and Monaka.

I almost have a feeling Buu and Monaka will actually lose their fights, and it'll be up to Piccolo to break the tie against his opponent. That would build tension as, right now, Piccolo is perceived as the weakest member of his team.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

The tournament is supposedly like the one held at Baba's place. Meaning that you keep fighting until you lose or defeat the team's captain. Seeing how the anime's title for Episode 29 says that Monaka is the team captain, if he loses, the tournament is over.

[CosmicSaiyan]

Is there a rule that the God of Destruction is the strongest in his universe? Again, no. Their assistants are stronger, and even if you want to discount them, Goku and Vegeta at some point will surpass Champa and maybe Beerus, making them stronger than two Gods of Destruction. Even if they don't, their hypothetical fusions would. Champa can be the God of Destruction of universe 6 but be weaker than everyone he gathered. I'm not saying this is likely, but it's possible, and there's absolutely nothing stopping this from being true.

And finally, how boring would it be if everyone in universe 6 is simply at Super Saiyan or Super Saiyan 2 level because of some unspoken rule that they CAN'T be as strong as Goku and Vegeta? Pretty fucking boring.

You should argue that with Toriyama cause thats what he said. Beerus is the strongest in the universe (excluding whis ofcourse) And if Beerus and Champa both are twin brothers from the paralell universes, then same laws should hold up there aswell. Cause remember who is the god of destruction? Its the character WHO HAS THE MOST AUTHORITY OVER EVERYTHING! If someone was powerful in universe 6 to be able to stand against Champa or be more powerful than him, then he wouldnt be called a god of destruction. Anyway universe 6 warriors look rubish i dont see any of them being close to golden frieza level. And Goku and Vegeta at this point should already be at the beerus level after 3 years training And able to kick anyones ass in universe 6. Unless those characters had some kind of tricks up their sleeves, reality warping, telepathy, etc to compensate for their strength.

[jcogginsa]

Is there a rule that the God of Destruction is the strongest in his universe? Again, no. Their assistants are stronger, and even if you want to discount them, Goku and Vegeta at some point will surpass Champa and maybe Beerus, making them stronger than two Gods of Destruction. Even if they don't, their hypothetical fusions would. Champa can be the God of Destruction of universe 6 but be weaker than everyone he gathered. I'm not saying this is likely, but it's possible, and there's absolutely nothing stopping this from being true.

And finally, how boring would it be if everyone in universe 6 is simply at Super Saiyan or Super Saiyan 2 level because of some unspoken rule that they CAN'T be as strong as Goku and Vegeta? Pretty fucking boring.

You should argue that with Toriyama cause thats what he said. Beerus is the strongest in the universe (excluding whis ofcourse) And if Beerus and Champa both are twin brothers from the paralell universes, then same laws should hold up there aswell. Cause remember who is the god of destruction? Its the character WHO HAS THE MOST AUTHORITY OVER EVERYTHING! If someone was powerful in universe 6 to be able to stand against Champa or be more powerful than him, then he wouldnt be called a god of destruction. Anyway universe 6 warriors look rubish i dont see any of them being close to golden Freeza level. And Goku and Vegeta at this point should already be at the beerus level after 3 years training And able to kick anyones ass in universe 6. Unless those characters had some kind of tricks up their sleeves, reality warping, telepathy, etc to compensate for their strength.

Beerus being the strongest in Universe 7 doesn't mean there's a rule saying that all Hakaishin are the strongest in their universe

[omaro34]

Is it possible that the outcome of the first few fights of the tournament will be revealed next week, as well as who fights who?

[Chuquita]

I think it's possible. The manga almost has to continue to jump ahead of the anime.

[CosmicSaiyan]

Is there a rule that the God of Destruction is the strongest in his universe? Again, no. Their assistants are stronger, and even if you want to discount them, Goku and Vegeta at some point will surpass Champa and maybe Beerus, making them stronger than two Gods of Destruction. Even if they don't, their hypothetical fusions would. Champa can be the God of Destruction of universe 6 but be weaker than everyone he gathered. I'm not saying this is likely, but it's possible, and there's absolutely nothing stopping this from being true.

And finally, how boring would it be if everyone in universe 6 is simply at Super Saiyan or Super Saiyan 2 level because of some unspoken rule that they CAN'T be as strong as Goku and Vegeta? Pretty fucking boring.

You should argue that with Toriyama cause thats what he said. Beerus is the strongest in the universe (excluding whis ofcourse) And if Beerus and Champa both are twin brothers from the paralell universes, then same laws should hold up there aswell. Cause remember who is the god of destruction? Its the character WHO HAS THE MOST AUTHORITY OVER EVERYTHING! If someone was powerful in universe 6 to be able to stand against Champa or be more powerful than him, then he wouldnt be called a god of destruction. Anyway universe 6 warriors look rubish i dont see any of them being close to golden Freeza level. And Goku and Vegeta at this point should already be at the beerus level after 3 years training And able to kick anyones ass in universe 6. Unless those characters had some kind of tricks up their sleeves, reality warping, telepathy, etc to compensate for their strength.

Beerus being the strongest in Universe 7 doesn't mean there's a rule saying that all Hakaishin are the strongest in their universe

Hakaishin is based of an idea of keeping the balance in the universe. If characters could just surpass gods of destruction, and rule over their actions,then it wouldn't even make sense lmao. I mean there could be other deities that could be stronger than Champa but mere live forms!? ehh... I feel like it would just mess up the whole hierarchy and i doubt Champa would be busy worrying about trying out new food when there are other problems like other characters in his universe that are stronger than him and planning to over throw him. But i dont think thats the case. Especially that he doesnt even know what Goku and Vegeta are really capable unless he saw them fight at their full powers before.

[shadd21]

Hakaishin is based of an idea of keeping the balance in the universe. If characters could just surpass gods of destruction, and rule over their actions,then it wouldn't even make sense lmao. I mean there could be other deities that could be stronger than Champa but mere live forms!? ehh... I feel like it would just mess up the whole hierarchy and i doubt Champa would be busy worrying about trying out new food when there are other problems like other characters in his universe that are stronger than him and planning to over throw him. But i dont think thats the case. Especially that he doesnt even know what Goku and Vegeta are really capable unless he saw them fight at their full powers before.

Is Kami "mere lifeform"? because aside from being more powerful, the Kais, the Hakaishins, Vado and Whis are as mortal as he was, deitys in the Dragon Ball universe are not immortal nor do they possess omnipotence their just super powerful guys with extremely long lifespans, also there's no written rule anywhere that says that "mortals" stronger that Hakaishins can't exist.

Anyway universe 6 warriors look rubish i dont see any of them being close to golden Freeza level. And Goku and Vegeta at this point should already be at the beerus level after 3 years training And able to kick anyones ass in universe 6. Unless those characters had some kind of tricks up their sleeves, reality warping, telepathy, etc to compensate for their strength.

So let me get this straight, just because you don't like their designs they should weaker than Golden Freeza and therefor fodder in the tournament? There's is absolutely no reason to believe that any of U6 fighters are that low especially when we don't anything about them.

[CosmicSaiyan]

]Is Kami "mere lifeform"? because aside from being more powerful, the Kais, the Hakaishins, Vado and Whis are as mortal as he was, deitys in the Dragon Ball universe are not immortal nor do they possess omnipotence their just super powerful guys with extremely long lifespans, also there's no written rule anywhere that says that "mortals" stronger that Hakaishins can't exist.

So let me get this straight, just because you don't like their designs they should weaker than Golden Freeza and therefor fodder in the tournament? There's is absolutely no reason to believe that any of U6 fighters are that low especially when we don't anything about them.

I never said that they were immortal or anything, i meant that Hakaishins are the most powerful forms of gods in universe despite having their own life spans like kais. But whats interesting is that Hakaishins have complete different roles and undergo under different training. Anyway universe 7-6 are both parallel universes which means that most likely similar laws and conditions would apply to universe 6 where Hakaishin is the most powerful character there. Althought I'm not sure if its the same across all 12 universes since they might not even have gods of destruction.

Now when it comes Universe 6 fighters i think they more closely suppost to represent a pun fighters than an actual threats. Unless they plan on setting up something big behind them.

[Tsufuru]

]Is Kami "mere lifeform"? because aside from being more powerful, the Kais, the Hakaishins, Vado and Whis are as mortal as he was, deitys in the Dragon Ball universe are not immortal nor do they possess omnipotence their just super powerful guys with extremely long lifespans, also there's no written rule anywhere that says that "mortals" stronger that Hakaishins can't exist.

So let me get this straight, just because you don't like their designs they should weaker than Golden Freeza and therefor fodder in the tournament? There's is absolutely no reason to believe that any of U6 fighters are that low especially when we don't anything about them.

I never said that they were immortal or anything, i meant that Hakaishins are the most powerful forms of gods in universe despite having their own life spans like kais. But whats interesting is that Hakaishins have complete different roles and undergo under different training. Anyway universe 7-6 are both parallel universes which means that most likely similar laws and conditions would apply to universe 6 where Hakaishin is the most powerful character there. Althought I'm not sure if its the same across all 12 universes since they might not even have gods of destruction.

Now when it comes Universe 6 fighters i think they more closely suppost to represent a pun fighters than an actual threats. Unless they plan on setting up something big behind them.

you have absolutly no argument here.

1.the fact you basicly know zero about them.
2.you are making up a rule.
3. Buu was a threat even tampourine was and only the robot and the fat bear look“silly“.
You are talking out of your ass tbh.
4. Vegeta proves that you can reach god level and champa seemed sure who to use for the tournament, implying he knew them.
Literly nothing is stopping the U6 team to be close or equal to U7 team.
For the lack of better words, its just dump to assume that they are weaker now maybe next chapter.

[LongLostSaiyan]

So when is chapter 8 coming?

[Khin]

So when is chapter 8 coming?

It could leak anyday now.

[sintzu]

Is it possible that the outcome of the first few fights of the tournament will be revealed next week, as well as who fights who?

Chapter 8 will more then likely reveal who'll fight who but I doubt we'll get more then 1 fight if even that.

[VegettoEX]

So when is chapter 8 coming?

For those new or who don't actively follow:

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