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Post by FoolsGil » Fri Jan 15, 2016 7:51 pm

jcogginsa, since you're outlining the first chapter, maybe I can give my thoughts on how to outline the tournament

64 fighters, 4 slots to fill, 1 slot equals one bracket of 16 fighters. Fighters fall into 4 classifications:

A: Final Gods - The Gods and Demigods in the end who will join Goku in the 4 slots. They move all the way to the Finals.
B: Gods - The Gods and Demigods who won't win in the end, whether they will battle each other, Final Gods, or the next class-
C: Rivals - Fighters who are there to make the battles less straightforward. To prevent readers from believing all Gods will make it to the finals or semifinals, a rival will effectively get lucky and take out a Class B God. Otherwise they will face each other, or destroy the last class
D: Fodder - Everyone else. They are lucky to make it to the quarterfinals.

So far we know that 32 fighters will fall in the preliminaries, they for sure a Fodder, though we can subvert that by having Gods or Rivals lose in Round 1, and have the remaining Fodder lose in Round 2 Then there are the 4 Final Gods, and 10-11 Gods. That would leave 17-18 remaining fighters, we could place them in the Rival Class.

As for Fuu, why not have him enthrall Beers in an illusion? Then Fuu can go on with his plan unabated

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Post by jcogginsa » Fri Jan 15, 2016 7:57 pm

FoolsGil wrote:jcogginsa, since you're outlining the first chapter, maybe I can give my thoughts on how to outline the tournament

64 fighters, 4 slots to fill, 1 slot equals one bracket of 16 fighters. Fighters fall into 4 classifications:

A: Final Gods - The Gods and Demigods in the end who will join Goku in the 4 slots. They move all the way to the Finals.
B: Gods - The Gods and Demigods who won't win in the end, whether they will battle each other, Final Gods, or the next class-
C: Rivals - Fighters who are there to make the battles less straightforward. To prevent readers from believing all Gods will make it to the finals or semifinals, a rival will effectively get lucky and take out a Class B God. Otherwise they will face each other, or destroy the last class
D: Fodder - Everyone else. They are lucky to make it to the quarterfinals.

So far we know that 32 fighters will fall in the preliminaries, they for sure a Fodder, though we can subvert that by having Gods or Rivals lose in Round 1, and have the remaining Fodder lose in Round 2 Then there are the 4 Final Gods, and 10-11 Gods. That would leave 17-18 remaining fighters, we could place them in the Rival Class.

As for Fuu, why not have him enthrall Beers in an illusion? Then Fuu can go on with his plan unabated
Interesting thoughts. Especially the illusion idea.

Why don't you try and categorize the characters into your four categories, to see if we're on the same page?

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Post by ShadowBardock89 » Fri Jan 15, 2016 8:05 pm

jcogginsa wrote: I see.

Fair enough. Though just so you know, my plan called for Fuu to have an incredibly badass moment XD
Have Fuu show up to pick up his men and Mecha Goku try to pick a fight with him (as he tries to defeat the strongest fighters), only to curb stomp Mecha Goku as a taste of what he is capable of.
That startled me! I have to be more careful now that I have lulled them into a false sense of security... thought Fuu as he and his vanguard departed back from which they came.
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Re: Dragonball Timestream (Group Writing Project)

Post by jcogginsa » Fri Jan 15, 2016 8:07 pm

ShadowBardock89 wrote:
jcogginsa wrote: I see.

Fair enough. Though just so you know, my plan called for Fuu to have an incredibly badass moment XD
Have Fuu show up to pick up his men and Mecha Goku try to pick a fight with him (as he tries to defeat the strongest fighters), only to curb stomp Mecha Goku as a taste of what he is capable of.
That startled me! I have to be more careful now that I have lulled them into a false sense of security... thought Fuu as he and his vanguard departed back from which they came.
That'd be interesting.

(I actually had the idea that Mecha Goku would be the one who beats 13. )

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Post by ShadowBardock89 » Fri Jan 15, 2016 8:08 pm

jcogginsa wrote:
ShadowBardock89 wrote:
jcogginsa wrote: I see.

Fair enough. Though just so you know, my plan called for Fuu to have an incredibly badass moment XD
Have Fuu show up to pick up his men and Mecha Goku try to pick a fight with him (as he tries to defeat the strongest fighters), only to curb stomp Mecha Goku as a taste of what he is capable of.
That startled me! I have to be more careful now that I have lulled them into a false sense of security... thought Fuu as he and his vanguard departed back from which they came.
That'd be interesting.

(I actually had the idea that Mecha Goku would be the one who beats 13. )
Do both.
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Post by jcogginsa » Fri Jan 15, 2016 8:12 pm

ShadowBardock89 wrote:
Do both.
Here's my thoughts

Mecha Goku beats Super 13
The other fighters from his timeline lose their battles
When Fuu shows up to collect his men, Mecha Goku picks a fight
Fuu wins in one hit, then leaves
Mecha Goku starts having a mental Break down over losing so easily, so he tries to go for the kill immediately in his next round.
Unfortunately for him, his next opponent is 16, who defeats him

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Post by ShadowBardock89 » Fri Jan 15, 2016 8:14 pm

jcogginsa wrote:
ShadowBardock89 wrote:
Do both.
Here's my thoughts

Mecha Goku beats Super 13
The other fighters from his timeline lose their battles
When Fuu shows up to collect his men, Mecha Goku picks a fight
Fuu wins in one hit, then leaves
Mecha Goku starts having a mental Break down over losing so easily, so he tries to go for the kill immediately in his next round.
Unfortunately for him, his next opponent is 16, who defeats him
Done. Its rather ironic, if you think about it.
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Re: Dragonball Timestream (Group Writing Project)

Post by jcogginsa » Fri Jan 15, 2016 8:19 pm

ShadowBardock89 wrote:
jcogginsa wrote:
ShadowBardock89 wrote:
Do both.
Here's my thoughts

Mecha Goku beats Super 13
The other fighters from his timeline lose their battles
When Fuu shows up to collect his men, Mecha Goku picks a fight
Fuu wins in one hit, then leaves
Mecha Goku starts having a mental Break down over losing so easily, so he tries to go for the kill immediately in his next round.
Unfortunately for him, his next opponent is 16, who defeats him
Done. Its rather ironic, if you think about it.
Yes it is

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Post by FoolsGil » Fri Jan 15, 2016 10:01 pm

A & B Gods
T1 Vegeta
T3 Broly
T3 Cell
T4 Bardock
T4 Cooler
T5 Gohan
T5 Freeza
T9 Garlic Jr
T10 Master Roshi
T10 Tenshinhan
T13 Turles
T16 Vegeta
T16 Uub
T16 Nova Shenron
T16 Pan

Rivals
T1 Piccolo
T1 Gotenks
T1 Gohan
T2 Minotia
T3 Ledgic
T5 Tagoma
T6 Android 16
T7 Bulma
T7 Bebi
T8  Tsukemono
T9 Cell Jr
T10 Chaozu
T12 Wheelo
T13 Slug
T13 Rildo
T14 Ginyu/Broly
T15 Mecha Goku Leader

Fodder
T2 Tapion
T2 Hoi
T2 Baba
T3 Dabura
T4 Celipa
T4 Sauza
T5 Piccolo
T6 Android 17
T6 Android 18
T6 Dr Gero
T7 Jaco
T7 King Kold
T8 Uekuma
T8 Kakuren
T8 Nawamuto
T9 Piccolo
T9 Kakarot
T10 Yamcha
T11 Bojack
T11 Android 13
T11 Hatchiyack
T11 Garlic Jr
T12 Tao/Kishime
T12 Blue/Ebifurya
T12 Murasaki/Misakatsun
T13 Bojack
T14 Recoome
T14 Burter
T14 Jeice
T15 Mecha Goku 2
T15 Mecha Goku 3
T15 Mecha Goku 4

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Post by jcogginsa » Fri Jan 15, 2016 10:20 pm

FoolsGil wrote:A & B Gods
T1 Vegeta
T3 Broly
T3 Cell
T4 Bardock
T4 Cooler
T5 Gohan
T5 Freeza
T9 Garlic Jr
T10 Master Roshi
T10 Tenshinhan
T13 Tullece
T16 Vegeta
T16 Uub
T16 Nova Shenron
T16 Pan

Rivals
T1 Piccolo
T1 Gotenks
T1 Gohan
T2 Minotia
T3 Ledgic
T5 Tagoma
T6 Android 16
T7 Bulma
T7 Bebi
T8  Tsukemono
T9 Cell Jr
T10 Chaozu
T12 Wheelo
T13 Slug
T13 Rildo
T14 Ginyu/Broly
T15 Mecha Goku Leader

Fodder
T2 Tapion
T2 Hoi
T2 Baba
T3 Dabura
T4 Celipa
T4 Sauza
T5 Piccolo
T6 Android 17
T6 Android 18
T6 Dr Gero
T7 Jaco
T7 King Kold
T8 Uekuma
T8 Kakuren
T8 Nawamuto
T9 Piccolo
T9 Kakarot
T10 Yamcha
T11 Bojack
T11 Android 13
T11 Hatchiyack
T11 Garlic Jr
T12 Tao/Kishime
T12 Blue/Ebifurya
T12 Murasaki/Misakatsun
T13 Bojack
T14 Recoome
T14 Burter
T14 Jeice
T15 Mecha Goku 2
T15 Mecha Goku 3
T15 Mecha Goku 4
Interesting placements. There are some i'd disagree with, but they work for the most part. For example, Piccolo Jr. Is actually the Second Strongest fighter of Timeline 9, with Kakarot and Cell Jr. being weaker.

One of the Subplots i have in mind is Demigra using his abilities to give a boost to some of the lower level Fighters, primarily the Ginyu Force, to allow them to make it past the first round.

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Post by FoolsGil » Fri Jan 15, 2016 10:37 pm

jcogginsa wrote: Interesting placements. There are some i'd disagree with, but they work for the most part. For example, Piccolo Jr. Is actually the Second Strongest fighter of Timeline 9, with Kakarot and Cell Jr. being weaker.

One of the Subplots i have in mind is Demigra using his abilities to give a boost to some of the lower level Fighters, primarily the Ginyu Force, to allow them to make it past the first round.
I can move some things around. This is a really flexible guideline. Any other suggestions?

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Post by jcogginsa » Fri Jan 15, 2016 10:54 pm

FoolsGil wrote:
jcogginsa wrote: Interesting placements. There are some i'd disagree with, but they work for the most part. For example, Piccolo Jr. Is actually the Second Strongest fighter of Timeline 9, with Kakarot and Cell Jr. being weaker.

One of the Subplots i have in mind is Demigra using his abilities to give a boost to some of the lower level Fighters, primarily the Ginyu Force, to allow them to make it past the first round.
I can move some things around. This is a really flexible guideline. Any other suggestions?
Let's see

I'd move Baba up to rivals
T14 Ginyu down to fodder
Not sure on Ledgic being a Rival

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Post by FoolsGil » Fri Jan 15, 2016 11:06 pm

changes added but not sure who to switch Jeice and Burtur with

A & B Gods
T1 Vegeta
T3 Broly
T3 Cell
T4 Bardock
T4 Cooler
T5 Gohan
T5 Freeza
T9 Garlic Jr
T10 Master Roshi
T10 Tenshinhan
T13 Tullece
T16 Vegeta
T16 Uub
T16 Nova Shenron
T16 Pan

Rivals
T1 Piccolo
T1 Gotenks
T1 Gohan
T2 Minotia
T9 Piccolo
T5 Tagoma
T6 Android 16
T7 Bulma
T7 Bebi
T8  Tsukemono
T14 Recoome
T10 Chaozu
T12 Wheelo
T13 Slug
T13 Rildo
T2 Baba
T15 Mecha Goku Leader

Fodder
T2 Tapion
T2 Hoi
T14 Ginyu/Broly
T3 Dabura
T4 Celipa
T4 Sauza
T5 Piccolo
T6 Android 17
T6 Android 18
T6 Dr Gero
T7 Jaco
T7 King Kold
T8 Uekuma
T8 Kakuren
T8 Nawamuto
T3 Ledgic
T9 Kakarot
T10 Yamcha
T11 Bojack
T11 Android 13
T11 Hatchiyack
T11 Garlic Jr
T12 Tao/Kishime
T12 Blue/Ebifurya
T12 Murasaki/Misakatsun
T13 Bojack
T9 Cell Jr
T14 Burter
T14 Jeice
T15 Mecha Goku 2
T15 Mecha Goku 3
T15 Mecha Goku 4

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Post by jcogginsa » Fri Jan 15, 2016 11:13 pm

I think it's best to leave it as is for now

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Post by FoolsGil » Fri Jan 15, 2016 11:23 pm

And what are all the tournament battles that have already been decided? I only have one, Minotia vs one of the geniuses in the quarterfinals.

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Post by jcogginsa » Fri Jan 15, 2016 11:30 pm

FoolsGil wrote:And what are all the tournament battles that have already been decided? I only have one, Minotia vs one of the geniuses in the quarterfinals.
Geniuses? Do you mean the people from Timline 7?

Anyway, for Confirmed Matches, we have

Dr. Gero vs A Saibaman

Cooler vs. Frieza

Bebi vs. Hatchiyack

Bebi vs. King Cold

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Post by FoolsGil » Fri Jan 15, 2016 11:34 pm

jcogginsa wrote:
FoolsGil wrote:And what are all the tournament battles that have already been decided? I only have one, Minotia vs one of the geniuses in the quarterfinals.
Geniuses? Do you mean the people from Timline 7?
I mean all the smart people in general, So besides Bulma and Bebi, Gero, Wheelo, anyone with a high IQ.

I'll set up a randomized tournament sheet with included the confirmed matches

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Post by jcogginsa » Fri Jan 15, 2016 11:41 pm

FoolsGil wrote:
jcogginsa wrote:
FoolsGil wrote:And what are all the tournament battles that have already been decided? I only have one, Minotia vs one of the geniuses in the quarterfinals.
Geniuses? Do you mean the people from Timline 7?
I mean all the smart people in general, So besides Bulma and Bebi, Gero, Wheelo, anyone with a high IQ.

I'll set up a randomized tournament sheet with included the confirmed matches
Randomized Tournement sheet? Also i forgot Gohan vs. Yamcha, Mecha Goku vs. Super 13, and Mecha Goku vs. 16

Wheelo may be your best bet there.


Here's a couple more ideas

Baba vs. Roshi
Cell Jr. vs. Tsukemono

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Post by ShadowBardock89 » Sat Jan 16, 2016 12:14 am

Uekuma vs. T10 Yamcha
It was inevitable.

Nawamuto vs. T5 Piccolo

T12 Tao/Kishime vs. Kid Mecha Goku (Kame Gi)

T11 Bojack vs. T13 Bojack (great way to show how different these two Bojacks are)

Have Dr. Gero face Kakuren (Yellow, long range specialist Saibaman).
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Post by jcogginsa » Sat Jan 16, 2016 12:19 am

ShadowBardock89 wrote:Uekuma vs. T10 Yamcha
It was inevitable.

Nawamuto vs. T5 Piccolo
I think Yamcha will be fighting Gohan.

I just can't see him losing to Uekuma, and since he's Yamcha, he can't make it past the first round XD

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