Explain to me how Beerus is original or a good character

[Lionel]

Would simplicity of the story and characters justify simplicity and unoriginality of the choreagraphical action and abilities of the characters? The fight scenes in Super don't appear to have measured up to the same depth seen back in the days of 22nd Budokai or any era of Dragon Ball for that matter.

[Majin Buu]

No, it wouldn't. There was a point where the series generally had interesting abilities and good fight choreography, whereas the series never had complex storytelling.

[whitetop]

No, it wouldn't. There was a point where the series generally had interesting abilities and good fight choreography, whereas the series never had complex storytelling.

its due to how it was hand drawn back then, if never looked like they was floating and having their hand pushed but no body movement like in super, super has been rushed for sure and looks like they put more detail in the background than anything else.

I'm sure they used software like the anime maker, (off topic but the gene voice change on freeza makes him sound like a 70yr old tranny) <<-- had to be said , sorry.

[Cure Dragon 255]

First off dont use the word Tranny, second which voice? Linda Young(Old Z dub) or Chris Ayres(Kai Dub)?

[whitetop]

First off dont use the word Tranny, second which voice? Linda Young(Old Z dub) or Chris Ayres(Kai Dub)?

If you on about me please try the quote button next time,

I stated tranny as in, its a male yet a bad voice of a woman (if tranny word is bad then admin/mod please remove)

The topic was about super so indeed its the new freeza don't you think? being that, i state the old freeza (dbz) was good (english/jap) but there is just something off with the voice of freeza in super, it just does not suite him one bit, too high toned,too girly, and sounds like his never had the age of a broken voice for a male.

I know they was heading for a male voice but to be honest, he still sounds like a man acting like a woman.


P.S: no rudeness intended

[Doctor.]

If you on about me please try the quote button next time,

I stated tranny as in, its a male yet a bad voice of a woman (if tranny word is bad then admin/mod please remove)

The topic was about super so indeed its the new freeza don't you think? being that, i state the old freeza (dbz) was good (english/jap) but there is just something off with the voice of freeza in super, it just does not suite him one bit, too high toned,too girly, and sounds like his never had the age of a broken voice for a male.

I know they was heading for a male voice but to be honest, he still sounds like a man acting like a woman.


P.S: no rudeness intended

It's the same voice actor, what are you talking about?

[whitetop]

If you on about me please try the quote button next time,

I stated tranny as in, its a male yet a bad voice of a woman (if tranny word is bad then admin/mod please remove)

The topic was about super so indeed its the new freeza don't you think? being that, i state the old freeza (dbz) was good (english/jap) but there is just something off with the voice of freeza in super, it just does not suite him one bit, too high toned,too girly, and sounds like his never had the age of a broken voice for a male.

I know they was heading for a male voice but to be honest, he still sounds like a man acting like a woman.


P.S: no rudeness intended

It's the same voice actor, what are you talking about?

I'll just leave this here since something people don't see is making this go off topic.

dragon ball z
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLTF8kPUF_c

dragon ball super
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MDQP7SCNO4

notice the voice not manly as they stated they wanted it to be in a article about the actors who was voicing the show. as stated its going off topic so please keep on topic.

[Beerus-sama]

I like him because he's the only god in dragon ball universe that not only is super strong but has different traits of personality, in BoG movie he is so polite yet he was frustrated for not getting what he wants and even so he waited and didn't kill anyone just because he wanted his Supa Saiyajin Godo and his pudding...

To me he is cute since he's a cat man acting like a cat wanting things and getting angry or frustrated if he doesn't have them.

Also he has a cool design and voice.
I love hearing him complaining or asking things to Whis
Is fun knowing even though Whis is stronger he fears him (or acts as he fears him).

[SingleFringe&Sparks]

I agree with both sides on Beerus. He's interesting because hes a sociopath out of freedom to be spoiled, not because of actual spite or ego, problem is though his role is one-dimensional and has nothing surrounding to why he is employed to do it, why he has the role, what consequences does he have, why he's allowed to do whatever he wants, and why he's the only god in his rank. There is nothing supporting why his genocide is tolerable without consequence but no other villain is. What if he killed everyone on Earth, would they just accept it or would they wish them all back? Is that allowed? Would Beerus allow it? Why does Whis have to reverse some of Beerus damage when he just destroys what he doesn't like? Why is there no real structure or standards on anything behind him? He's just there in the background.

Also, nobody can just say thats too complex for DB, if Otherworld has so many strict rules for its laws and properties. Thats the real inconsistency. If DB was so simplistic, why would Toriyama add all these layers to the world building? It just sounds more like things are just written out of plot necessity and if they don't get brought up, they stay left in ambiguity.

[LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta]

Beerus is a strong neutral force. It's new and fresh, however his fans over exaggerate him worse then Broly fans used to do. Soon Beerus will be the new Broly, people hate him for being over touted. He's strong, but when People say only gods can kill him and such it's ridiculous.

[SingleFringe&Sparks]

Beerus is a strong neutral force. It's new and fresh, however his fans over exaggerate him worse then Broly fans used to do. Soon Beerus will be the new Broly, people hate him for being over touted. He's strong, but when People say only gods can kill him and such it's ridiculous.

Do people overrate Beerus? How exactly? The whole "Only Gods can kill Gods" thing was implied a lot and Beerus can negate normal ki with his own so, it seems legit. With broly people just exaggerate things taken out of context and make wild hypothetical presumptions. People do that for Ultimate Gohan, FnF-Freeza, and SSJG ki a lot more, except these presumptions are more supportable with what was implied through Beerus not the more commonly boasted latter.

[LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta]

Beerus is a strong neutral force. It's new and fresh, however his fans over exaggerate him worse then Broly fans used to do. Soon Beerus will be the new Broly, people hate him for being over touted. He's strong, but when People say only gods can kill him and such it's ridiculous.

Do people overrate Beerus? How exactly? The whole "Only Gods can kill Gods" thing was implied a lot and Beerus can negate normal ki with his own so, it seems legit. With broly people just exaggerate things taken out of context and make wild hypothetical presumptions. People do that for Ultimate Gohan, FnF-Freeza, and SSJG ki a lot more, except these presumptions are more supportable with what was implied through Beerus not the more commonly boasted latter.

People saying beerus can only be killed by gods and that's just not True. They say god ki makes you invincible accept to others with god ki. If that was the case Majin Buu would be roflstompped by Supreme Kai.

Truth is he said he had to go to 10%, truthfully he said it's been a long time but he still needed 10% to defeat vegeta. A vegeta who was damaged and tired from training and fighting earlier. GT characters are stronger. The power jump from shows is too big. I mean if goku gets 15x stronger each week then end of Z goku, even if he never met beerus would poop on Whis.

[SingleFringe&Sparks]

Its true people make up their own headcanon nonsense to define or exaggerated God ki but I'll give Super credit for Beerus at least living up to the status a bit more so than in the movie. I hated how nonchalant and entitled Beerus was. At least now his snarkiness and somewhat sinister hints here and there proves him to be an antagonist and a destroyer that he is hyped to be at because he doesn't care about alignments outside of Whis' neutrality within the needs of the moment. Hes unpredictable like destruction. So I think he's a very successful character. Why people hate him because he's "too mean" is beyond my rationality.

[zDBZ]

Going off of BoG alone, as I've yet to see more than a few clips of "Super..."

I find Beerus well-designed, charming, and entertaining as a character. And those last two things are part of my biggest problem with him: he doesn't really feel that threatening. Even when it looked like he was really going to blow up the world, it was impossible to feel nervous about it, because Beerus had been so silly and fun up to that point that I never thought he'd end up doing anything that, well, destructive.

[Draconic]

Going off of BoG alone, as I've yet to see more than a few clips of "Super..."

I find Beerus well-designed, charming, and entertaining as a character. And those last two things are part of my biggest problem with him: he doesn't really feel that threatening. Even when it looked like he was really going to blow up the world, it was impossible to feel nervous about it, because Beerus had been so silly and fun up to that point that I never thought he'd end up doing anything that, well, destructive.

That's fixed in Super

[WittyUsername]

I think the main reason people like Beerus is because they consider him to be a nice change of pace from the previous villains(including the Toei movies and GT). I personally have started to get a bit tired of him since his entire shtick is basically that he loves eating, and destroys things when he doesn't get his way. It's also a bit annoying to me that he's able to just casually get away with being who he is due to his strength.

[Khin]

I'm starting to like Champa more than Beerus.