Chris Sabat finally sheds light on DBZ specials not dubbed

[mecha3000]

So yeah, I was stumbling on YouTube and found this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KTPoV-CZ5Y) that has Sean Schemmel and Chris Sabat (English voice actors for Goku and Vegeta) speculating why Dragon Ball: Plan to Eradicate the Super Saiyans and the DBZ 2008 special: Yo! The Return of Son Goku and Friends, never got an official dub release. Both of them basically say budget and time issues were probably a big part of why it never saw the light of day here, but Sabat says he wouldn't be surprised if they one day ended up dubbing it. He even states that if this was ever the case, Vegeta's brother Tarble might get recast due to the fact that Todd Haberkorn now voices Jaco the Galactic Patrolman. Thoughts? I always thought it'd be cool if Funimation released all of their undubbed specials (including Episode of Bardock haha) under the Dragon Ball Z brand, maybe called Dragon Ball Z: The Lost Episodes - Specials Collection, which could be similar to Funimation's Yu Yu Hakusho: The Movie + Eizou Hakusho release with little bonuses thrown in. With DB Super and Kai Buu Saga possibly coming, it would be the perfect time for them to release the specials in this new Dragon Ball resurgence.

[samuraix123]

I wouldn't call em ''The Lost episodes'' I am okay with ''The Specials Collection'' though. I would love to see them get released officially here in the US besides being tacked onto a video game like PTETSS or EOB were.

[mecha3000]

I wouldn't call em ''The Lost episodes'' I am okay with ''The Specials Collection'' though. I would love to see them get released officially here in the US besides being tacked onto a video game like PTETSS or EOB were.

I get where you're coming from. I figured a lot of fans wouldn't like that because they were never LOST EPISODES and also, it reminds people of what Funimation did with GT back in the day. But yeah, an official release is always preferred for a collector fan like me, especially since PTETSS and EOB were never even English dubbed when they were released for the games.

[Lord Beerus]

I certainly would love to see the DBZ 2008 special getting a dub. As far as self contained story goes, it's one of the best entries into the franchise ever. And considering how much better the DBZ original actors at FUNimation have gotten over the years, I'm sure it would be a great dub.

[precita]

Budget? What is so hard about dubbing a 45 minute special?

[Lord Beerus]

Budget? What is so hard about dubbing a 45 minute special?

Hiring professional VA's for FUNimation dubs and international licensing and distributions fees are not cheap, especially when it comes to Dragon Ball.

[ShadowBardock89]

I would call it Dragon Ball Z Legacy Collection:
Yo! Son Goku and His Friends Return!!
Plan to Eradicate the Super Saiyans
Episode of Bardock
DVD and Blu Ray release (contains audio commentary for each special) with a pamphlet about each special.

[mecha3000]

Yeah, it costs. This entire thing becomes especially interesting when you take into account that Chris Sabat stated he never even watched the 2008 special, but needed to get Tarble an English voice for Raging Blast 2. It makes me wonder how he would cast Tarble today if he ever ends up seeing the entire special. Regardless, like I said, it's the perfect time for Funimation to begin releasing all of the specials, DUBBED. It'd be nice for them to take advantage of this new material (not in a bad way) and to really demonstrate that Dragon Ball is back. I just wonder how Tarble would sound recast. Would it be a lower or higher pitch?

I wonder if Funimation would re-title the movies. I imagine Yo! Son Goku and His Friends Return!! would be the only title they would change. Maybe to something like THE RETURN OF GOKU, THE RETURN OF Z (to reflect the franchise's revival) OR like with previous movies to change the title completely to something like DRAGON BALL Z: REMNANTS OF 'F' to tie-in better to Resurrection 'F' as a prequel. I mean, the 2008 special has unintentional nods to both SSJG and SSJGSS so it's perfect.

[Lord Beerus]

I would call it Dragon Ball Z Legacy Collection:
Yo! Son Goku and His Friends Return!!
Plan to Eradicate the Super Saiyans
Episode of Bardock
DVD and Blu Ray release (contains audio commentary for each special) with a pamphlet about each special.

Don't forget the Dream 9 Toriko & One Piece & Dragon Ball Z Super Collaboration Special.

[mecha3000]

I tend to think that Funimation wouldn't include Toriko due to it failing as a property. But it still has Goku and Luffy meeting (and Dragon Ball crossing over with One Piece), so it's probably worth including just as a bonus type of thing to really push this POSSIBLE specials collection. Also, things conveniently work in Funimation's favor since they own DRAGON BALL, ONE PIECE, and TORIKO. I'd also like to see the 90s version of Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans (but this was just a video game thing, not a genuine special to my knowledge) as a bonus subbed-only thing, along with the other little 90s bonus DBZ stuff that never got dubbed. I really would like Funimation to dub or at least include that time travel special with Trunks taking the heroes back in time (but once again, this was a TV game not a genuine special). Seriously though, their Yu Yu Hakusho: Eizou Hakusho + The Movie release is a perfect blueprint for how this DBZ: Specials Collection could work, and they could really make it worth the price by adding a lot of bonus stuff.

[B]

I buy the "budget/time issues" excuse for why the Plan to OVA didn't get dubbed. It's a shitty extra on a video game, specifically Raging Blast 2, probably the apex of people's waning interest in DB games. But the JSAT? It's not strictly a Toei production; there's probably a whole mess of red tape to go through to get it. It should be noted that none of Shueisha's Jump Festa specials have ever left Japan, not even the ones for hot-shit-king-of-the-mountain Naruto.

[ShadowBardock89]

I would call it Dragon Ball Z Legacy Collection:
Yo! Son Goku and His Friends Return!!
Plan to Eradicate the Super Saiyans
Episode of Bardock
DVD and Blu Ray release (contains audio commentary for each special) with a pamphlet about each special.

Don't forget the Dream 9 Toriko & One Piece & Dragon Ball Z Super Collaboration Special.

I would have that as a separate release, since it isn't strictly a Dragon Ball product.

[TheBlackPaladin]

Budget? What is so hard about dubbing a 45 minute special?

Hiring professional VA's for FUNimation dubs and international licensing and distributions fees are not cheap, especially when it comes to Dragon Ball.

Not to mention hiring writers to adapt a dub script, engineers to record, marketers to plan the...erm....marketing...as well as the packaging, the production of the packaging itself, and the production of the DVD/Blu-Rays, among other things. Dubbing and distributing anime may not be as expensive as, say, a Hollywood-funded summer blockbuster, but it's still not cheap by any stretch of the imagination.

[mecha3000]

I buy the "budget/time issues" excuse for why the Plan to OVA didn't get dubbed. It's a shitty extra on a video game, specifically Raging Blast 2, probably the apex of people's waning interest in DB games. But the JSAT? It's not strictly a Toei production; there's probably a whole mess of red tape to go through to get it. It should be noted that none of Shueisha's Jump Festa specials have ever left Japan, not even the ones for hot-shit-king-of-the-mountain Naruto.

AS STATED BY VegettoEX on Reddit, https://www.reddit.com/r/dbz/comments/3 ... _son_goku/ Turns out he was right about Funimation trying to get this. Once again, this proves it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KTPoV-CZ5Y

[mecha3000]

I guess I might as well bring this up too: https://twitter.com/FUNimation/status/6 ... 2766204929 and then there's this: http://www.funimation.com/forum/faq.php ... unshows_10 so in both cases, they never straight up said NO. They literally said in both cases, STAY TUNED. So, it's more likely than unlikely. Right?

[Cure Dragon 255]

Please dont double post, its against the rules. And could you put paragraphs on future posts?

[mecha3000]

Please dont double post, its against the rules. And could you put paragraphs on future posts?

My bad, I'll make sure I won't do it again for future posts. But I actually just came up with a new BADASS title for the 2008 special. Funimation could change the title to DRAGON BALL Z: REMNANTS OF 'F'. Then, it could work as a prequel and would feel more connected to Resurrection 'F' as both are similar due to their premises being connected to Frieza's forces returning.

[Dragon Ball Ireland]

Yeah, it costs. This entire thing becomes especially interesting when you take into account that Chris Sabat stated he never even watched the 2008 special, but needed to get Tarble an English voice for Raging Blast 2. It makes me wonder how he would cast Tarble today if he ever ends up seeing the entire special. Regardless, like I said, it's the perfect time for Funimation to begin releasing all of the specials, DUBBED. It'd be nice for them to take advantage of this new material (not in a bad way) and to really demonstrate that Dragon Ball is back. I just wonder how Tarble would sound recast. Would it be a lower or higher pitch?

I wonder if Funimation would re-title the movies. I imagine Yo! Son Goku and His Friends Return!! would be the only title they would change. Maybe to something like THE RETURN OF GOKU, THE RETURN OF Z (to reflect the franchise's revival) OR like with previous movies to change the title completely to something like DRAGON BALL Z: REMNANTS OF FREEZA. Off-topic, a re-release of Resurrection F packed with Battle of Gods would be cool, especially since it would be a good opportunity to include the 2008 special as kind of a "prequel" tease to Resurrection F despite the fact that people have already seen it.

I'm surprised Sabat hasn't seen the special yet, especially because he's known to be a huge Dragon Ball fan, particularly the Japanese version. Regardless, I am hoping all the specials will be released in the future (preferably sooner rather than later), as I'm sure they will be great with the Funimation cast as good as they have been since Kai's debut.

Whether or not they will be retitled remains to be seen.

[Bullza]

The JSAT special should have been dubbed and made a part of the Battle of Gods collectors edition.

[B]

I buy the "budget/time issues" excuse for why the Plan to OVA didn't get dubbed. It's a shitty extra on a video game, specifically Raging Blast 2, probably the apex of people's waning interest in DB games. But the JSAT? It's not strictly a Toei production; there's probably a whole mess of red tape to go through to get it. It should be noted that none of Shueisha's Jump Festa specials have ever left Japan, not even the ones for hot-shit-king-of-the-mountain Naruto.

AS STATED BY VegettoEX on Reddit, https://www.reddit.com/r/dbz/comments/3 ... _son_goku/ Turns out he was right about Funimation trying to get this. Once again, this proves it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KTPoV-CZ5Y

I'm not sure why you quoted me as this basically covers everything I said. I never once claimed FUNimation didn't want these things. If you're referring to my theory on PtEtSS, VegettoEX offers more credence. It's a Bandai Namco production; for whatever reason, they did not see the upside to having FUNi dub it.

Why did anyone need to "prove" that FUNi was actively trying to acquire the license to something? Unless you're a shareholder, you're not owed an explanation for anything. It's this same weird, entitled nonsense with Kai's Buu arc and Super. FUNimation is under no obligation to update the masses on where negotiations are at. Ations ations ations.