SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:- Perfect Cell vs. MSSj Kid Gohan,Goku,Vegeta,Future Trunks and Piccolo (Cell Games,They go all at once)
- Perfect Cell vs. All 7 Cell Juniors
- Vegeta (Saiyan Arc,No Oozaru) vs. Ghurd
- Piccolo, Kid Gohan, Tenshinhan, Kuririn, Yamcha, and Chaozu (Saiyan Arc) vs. 1,000 Freeza mooks (DBS,No Shisami or Tagoma)
- Vegeta and Goku (Saiyan Arc,No Oozaru) vs. Dodoria and Kewi
- SSj/SSj2 ? Gohan vs. Dabra (If the fight continued)
- SSj Goku (Yardrat) and SSj Future Trunks (Trunks Arc) vs. Dr.Gero and Android 19 (Post Absorption)
- Imperfect Cell (Ginger Town) vs. SSj Vegeta and SSj Future Trunks (Android Arc)
- 1st Form Freeza (Namek) vs. Pocus
- 1st Form Freeza (Post Training) vs. Ultimate Gohan and SSj3 Gotenks (Post ROSAT)
— If Cell is allowed to use his full power, then the heroes are boned. If he's stuck at the level he used against SS Goku and Gohan, then the heroes can win as long as Gohan pulls his weight.
— Again, if Cell uses his full power then he can win with a struggle. Otherwise all 7 are too much for him.
— Vegeta. He significantly stronger, and he knows Gurd's abilities and won't give him the chance to abuse them.
— The Earth crew will take a bunch of Freeza's soldiers out, but they're going to get overwhelmed before long. There's just too many opponents, and they don't have a big enough power advantage to wipe them out quickly and efficiently.
— If Goku can use the Kaio-Ken to temporarily fend off Dodoria while Vegeta takes out Kwi, then together they might have a chance of beating Dodoria together. Only a very slim one though.
— It could go either way. Either Dabra will manage to nail Gohan with one of his tricks, or Gohan will gradually stop sucking or just get angry enough to pull out Super Saiyan 2 and lay a beatdown.
— The Super Saiyan duo can win pretty easily as long as they don't let the Androids absorb too much of their ki.
— Cell could beat either of the Super Saiyans alone, but two of them together could probably beat him. He doesn't have that added advantage of infinite stamina like the Androids do.
— I usually give Pui-Pui some extra credit and consider him between 1st- and 2nd-form Freeza in power. So Freeza would need his 2nd form to win.
— Jury's still out for me on just how strong Freeza's non-gold forms were after his training. But my gut tells me even if he's up there on their level, he couldn't take on both Gohan and Gotenks at the same time. Heck, maybe there's a reason he only attacked
base Gohan...
In Brightest Day wrote:Equal power level fights :
- Mr. Boo (no candy beam) vs. Eighteen.
- Chaozu (Boo arc) vs. Kaioshin.
- Dr. Gero vs. Mercenary Tao.
- Ultimate Son Gohan vs. Future Trunks (Cell Games).
- Krillin (Android arc) vs. Vegeta (Android arc).
- Piccolo ("Kamiccolo") vs. Tenshinhan (Android arc).
— Eighteen may have infinite stamina, but she can still be wounded. Her injuries will pile up, while Boo will just keep regenerating over and over and over, his own stamina also being endless since he's not fighting another Boo. Eventually, after a very long fight, Eighteen will be too damaged to continue.
— I'm willing to bet that Kaioshin's telekinetic abilities are more potent than Chaozu's, and he also can't be sensed, giving him a strategic edge. Kaioshin will probably win in the end.
— Is Gero allowed to
increase his power by absorption? If not, then I think Tao Pai Pai would win in the end. He's a trained and experienced martial artist, while at the end of the day Gero as Android 20 is just... a powerful robotic dude.
— Even putting aside Gohan's tendency to fail for no good reason, I still think Trunks would beat him. The only real advantage Gohan had over Evil Boo was raw power, and his fighting skills wouldn't be any less rusty than they were a day or two prior against Dabra. Trunks, meanwhile, has been training non-stop his whole life and then especially before the Cell Games. He's going to have a skill edge that lets him beat Gohan.
— Vegeta being a Saiyan makes him more physically tough and durable at equal power levels. I think the odds are in his favor.
— Tenshinhan could win with a Kikoho, but that'd be lame. Putting it aside, it becomes an amusing battle of wacky abilities. My gut tells me that Piccolo wins.
apex_pretador wrote:Injured Piccolo 23rd TB (lets say he won against goku due to his mouth blast at the end of fight) vs 23rd TB yamcha & krillin (Kami can't interfere)
Eh... Piccolo seemed confident that he'd still be able to beat everyone else, so I guess I'll take his word for it. However, I don't think it'd be easy. He'd be surprised by how much effort he needs to do the job.
Steven Bloodriver wrote:Piccolo Daimao (In his old age and wearing weighted clothing) vs General Blue (After becoming possessed by Babidi to become a Majin).
Super Piccolo (After fusing with both Nail and Kami, wearing his cape and turban, and having trained under Whis for as long as Son Goku and Vegeta) vs Golden Freeza (At the time of the Freeza Saga).
Super Saiyan 3 Adult Gohan (After healing from his final battle with Super Perfect Cell and training under Piccolo for seven years) vs Super Janemba.
Super Saiyan God Goku (As an adult from Dragon Ball GT) vs Legendary Super Saiyan Broly (Powered up by Dark Magic from Saga of Super Saiyan Legend).
Piccolo Daimao (Youth Restored) vs Majin Spopovitch.
Piccolo (Sync with Nail and without weighted clothing) vs Great Ape Nappa.
Super Gogeta (From Fusion Reborn) vs Baby Hatchiyack.
Super Saiyan 2 Teen Gohan (After healing from the conclusion of the Cell Games and training for 2 years under both Piccolo and Otherworld Goku) vs Majin Vegeta
Nail (If he had trained twice in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber with Gohan and Piccolo) vs Fifth Form Freeza (During the Freeza Saga)
Super Saiyan Pan (Baby Saga) vs Bojack (Base)
Super Saiyan 3 Future Gohan (Otherworld Body) vs Future Number 17 and Hell Fighter 17
— The power granted by Bobbidi is based on latent power and hard to predict... but I'd bet Blue is still no match for King Piccolo, decrepit or not. He's like 3 whole different levels of power removed from him.
— Unless Piccolo can access godly ki too
(which was somehow accomplished via Whis' training), he's not going to be any match for Freeza.
— If Gohan had kept training for those seven years I think he'd be a good chunk ahead of Goku or Vegeta in equal forms. But even giving him Super Saiyan 3, he's no match for Janemba, who is way up there close to Evil Boo's absorption forms and too much for anyone but a Goku-Vegeta Fusion.
— I don't know what the heck all that stuff about Broli means, but I'm going to say that Goku wins anyway, just because I dislike the idea of anything powering Broli up to god-level so vehemently.
— I think Spopovich is only packing a PL of like 100 at best. I doubt his already bloated normal Earthling body could handle any more forcefully-enhanced power than that. King Piccolo wrecks him.
— Nail alone was already at 42,000, which is about as strong as Nappa would be when transformed. After assimilating him, Piccolo was well over a million and a match for 2nd-form Freeza, so Nappa is nothing to him. Unless you meant Piccolo from the Saiyan arc, in which case... hard to tell.
— GT being GT makes it hard to gauge just how strong Baby's possession typically makes someone... but Hachiyak is "only" a Cell-level fighter, and I doubt even Baby's enhancements would make him a match for someone like Gogeta who can fight the strongest forms of Majin Boo.
— Gohan would probably have a decent power advantage over Vegeta, but not a huge one. He can win, but he has to be careful and focused.
— This is too random and dependent on unknown variables. Pass.
— As a GT character, Pan is automatically stronger than all Z characters. Bojack gets wrecked.
— I don't remember how strong the Hell-made 17 was supposed to be, so pass.
Roronoa-pt wrote:Piccolo ( after the training with Gohan ) vs Fat Buu
Piccolo ( after the training with Gohan ) vs SSJ Goten & SSJ Trunks
Piccolo ( after the training with Gohan ) vs Tagoma/Ginyu
Piccolo ( after the training with Gohan ) vs Freeza 1st form ( after his training with Tagoma )
A little out of order there... but my gut tells me he's pushing a Super Saiyan 2 level. He could utterly smoke both Goten and Trunks at the same time, and probably give Tagoma a good fight. But both Fat Boo and Freeza are still too much for him.
