The point is that the NPCs shouldn't have been easy to begin with. If there was actually a question of whether I could win in a straight fight, then the time limit wouldn't be necessary. Instead, the AI is so braindead that no amount of opponents is a danger to a sufficiently leveled character, so they took the cheap way out and said "Oh, you didn't beat them fast enough, so you lost the battle... for some reason".Zelvin wrote:If you have infinite time to kill 15 easy npc's, then there's no agency to it, and you shouldn't be reward much for doing that. Beating, say, Piccolo, GOku and all them within a limited time is supposed to be a challenge. Having infinite time to get it done won't be any challenge at all. I don't call this fake difficulty. Fake difficulty is like whittling down the Stamina Armor of Oozaru just to hurt them. Especially Baby in the GT Story mission as it seemed nothing would even affect it, and you have to hit him on the top of his head to even have any kind of effect on it. When the only effective strategy against him and other Great Apes is to use Blue Tornado, then it just clearly showed how lazy the combat mechanics were for those battles.
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But here's the thing. If there are 15 npc's that are easy to kill, then a time limit shouldn't matter. If you have to defeat 6 relatively difficult NPC's, then a time limit should matter because it forces you to not only be smart about fighting, but to develop your strategies against such enemies and defeat them quickly. Having boundless time to beat stronger NPC's is, altogether, boring and childish. We all want a challenging game. But I don't want us being coddled by always having infinite time to do everything at whatever pace we want. Because that just makes it too easy.johnboy1 wrote:The point is that the NPCs shouldn't have been easy to begin with. If there was actually a question of whether I could win in a straight fight, then the time limit wouldn't be necessary. Instead, the AI is so braindead that no amount of opponents is a danger to a sufficiently leveled character, so they took the cheap way out and said "Oh, you didn't beat them fast enough, so you lost the battle... for some reason".
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The last thing a video game should ever make me feel is pressured. I play these games to have fun. They're pieces of entertainment. Their existence is coddling in and of itself. It's their function in life. Why should I have to beat them quickly? What do I gain by doing so? I can beat them, and that's all that matters. There's nothing "childish" about a leisurely pace, and likewise there's nothing "adult" about something being incredibly difficult.Zelvin wrote:But here's the thing. If there are 15 npc's that are easy to kill, then a time limit shouldn't matter. If you have to defeat 6 relatively difficult NPC's, then a time limit should matter because it forces you to not only be smart about fighting, but to develop your strategies against such enemies and defeat them quickly. Having boundless time to beat stronger NPC's is, altogether, boring and childish. We all want a challenging game. But I don't want us being coddled by always having infinite time to do everything at whatever pace we want. Because that just makes it too easy.
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But, here's the thing...it's still a video game. Even if you lose, it doesn't matter. It can be frustrating to lose, but it's still just a video game. If you just want and easy game to feel good, there's tons of games like that. But I've never played a DBZ game hoping it's going to be easy and coddle me. We have Difficulty Modes for a reason. We do play games for fun. And a lot more people want a game to actually feel challenging so it feels like you're accomplishing something. It's the same feeling for all those that rigorously played Demon/Dark Souls, despite the games being stupidly difficult and frustrating.johnboy1 wrote:The last thing a video game should ever make me feel is pressured. I play these games to have fun. They're pieces of entertainment. Their existence is coddling in and of itself. It's their function in life. Why should I have to beat them quickly? What do I gain by doing so? I can beat them, and that's all that matters. There's nothing "childish" about a leisurely pace, and likewise there's nothing "adult" about something being incredibly difficult.
Again, I feel we should be able to control the time limit in missions to a degree. Perhaps through a Difficulty Setting. But removing timed battles and missions just to appease the vast minority who want an easy carefree time is a good way to make a terrible game. And we sure as hell don't want to see another terrible DBZ game. Xenoverse has such great potential. So to backtrack instead of moving forward and cutting it off at the knees isn't the way to do things.
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We know the U6 fighters names now. I would imagine they will be in the game for sure. I do like to see what interactions that they will have. I would like to see what Cabba will say when fighting against Radditz, Nappa, Bardock, Turles and Broli.
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Kyabe to Bardock/Tullece; "Bitch you look like Goku.Hellspawn28 wrote:We know the U6 fighters names now. I would imagine they will be in the game for sure. I do like to see what interactions that they will have. I would like to see what Cabba will say when fighting against Radditz, Nappa, Bardock, Tullece and Broli.
Kyabe to Nappa; "In our universe, we evolved passed the need for baldness."
Kyabe to Raditz; "What happened to your hair, dad?"
Kyabe to Brolly; "...you must really like your spinach." (Popeye Joke)
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Freeza and Frost.Imagine the two emperors meeting each other.Hellspawn28 wrote:We know the U6 fighters names now. I would imagine they will be in the game for sure. I do like to see what interactions that they will have. I would like to see what Cabba will say when fighting against Radditz, Nappa, Bardock, Tullece and Broli.
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Frost: ....SSJ3 Vegeta wrote: Freeza and Frost.Imagine the two emperors meeting each other.
Freeza: ....
Frost: ...oniichan.
Freeza: *shrieks*
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A lot more combos like 15 or 18
. More complex combos. 30 would be incredible
They need to add dodge mechanics like Budokai/Tenkaichi series for example and they need to add both the explosive shockwave attack and punch to the gut from Burst limit
They need to add defence and speed for attributes
Every race should have atleast 3 transformations
No stats on clothes
A lot more hairstyles like 50, 70 or 100
More story to PQ's, more original story telling in story mode and more DLC
They need to add dodge mechanics like Budokai/Tenkaichi series for example and they need to add both the explosive shockwave attack and punch to the gut from Burst limit
They need to add defence and speed for attributes
Every race should have atleast 3 transformations
No stats on clothes
A lot more hairstyles like 50, 70 or 100
More story to PQ's, more original story telling in story mode and more DLC
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All that I desire for Xenoverse 2 is this:
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I'd like to see Xenoverse 2 continue to use Dragon Ball Online stuff as well as merge into Dragon Ball Heroes stuff.
Create a character races
• Human
• Saiyan
• Namekian
• Majin
• Android
• Frieza's Race
• Demon
• Kai
Playable Characters/ Story lines that could include...
• Soba (Dragon Ball Z Sagas)
• Cell X (Dragon Ball Online)
• Naraka (Dragon Ball Online)
• Super 17 adsorbed Android 18 (Heroes)
• Baby Janemba (Heroes)
• Baby Hatchiyack (Heroes)
• SSJ4 Broly (Heroes)
• SSJ4 Gohan (Heroes)
• Adult Gotenks (Heroes)
Create a character races
• Human
• Saiyan
• Namekian
• Majin
• Android
• Frieza's Race
• Demon
• Kai
Playable Characters/ Story lines that could include...
• Soba (Dragon Ball Z Sagas)
• Cell X (Dragon Ball Online)
• Naraka (Dragon Ball Online)
• Super 17 adsorbed Android 18 (Heroes)
• Baby Janemba (Heroes)
• Baby Hatchiyack (Heroes)
• SSJ4 Broly (Heroes)
• SSJ4 Gohan (Heroes)
• Adult Gotenks (Heroes)
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Well we already have Earthling, Saiyan, Majin, Namekian and Frost Demon. Taking any of those out would just enrage the gaming community and DBZ fans. Far as other races go, androids like Lapis and Lazuli an such are easily done via appearance through Earthlings since you can effectively use the same abilities and change skin colors. The only reason to add them would be if they had specific racials. Like #16's rocket fist. But he was the only one who could do that, so it's kind of a waste. I'd still like to see it and get our Super Android. But it may not be likely from a practical standpoint.Ozotto wrote:I'd like to see Xenoverse 2 continue to use Dragon Ball Online stuff as well as merge into Dragon Ball Heroes stuff.
Create a character races
Playable Characters/ Story lines that could include...
When I think Android, I think more like Cell. A Bioroid. Being able to create a male or female one of those based on the genetic information of multiple species would be quite enjoyable.
Demon is too loose. We have those like Garlic jr, then others like Dabura, and then more like Towa who just look like kaioshin. Too much variety overall to work. Though having Kaioshin and Makaioshin would be nice. Would be nice to make our own Supreme Kai or Demon Lord like Tika and Towa. I very much like their whole design and concept. And considering the premise of Time Manipulation and drawing figures from across the multiverse for the story, there's definitely the idea that even one of their number could be the Time Warrior.
Far as PC's and Story bits, I really don't like all the "What if" things in Heroes. They have cool ideas for fusion characters, but they make AWFUL story lines. The Baby fusions just absurd. And while Dimps did add some GT elements for Xenoverse, it was just as some bonus material for DLC and really didn't play any real role in the story. Adding more GT related content would just be taking away from everything else that we could have. With Super up and running and the Universe 6 stuff happening, there's so much more we can bring in from that side of things.
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Honestly I'd like Xeno 2 to wrap up the rest of Movies, GT and a bit of OG Dragon Ball (with the 6 new fighters from Super as little bonuses at the end of the game I guess) while 3 adds all the content we might get from Super. Only adding the new Super content for a Xeno 2 would be a really big disappointment for me.
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We're not going to even see XV2 until 2017 anyway, and we'll have maybe another 30 episodes of Super before that even happens, if not more. So we'll actually be in there pretty deep. And if we don't see an announcement at the Tokyo Game Show or E3, then we may not even see a Xenoverse2 in 2017 at all. Besides, XV already had us fight Omega Shenron and the Shadow Dragons, so the GT story itself is quite finished. What I want to see for a story is the expansion upon what Towa and the Time Breakers are trying to accomplish.Quebaz wrote:Honestly I'd like Xeno 2 to wrap up the rest of Movies, GT and a bit of OG Dragon Ball (with the 6 new fighters from Super as little bonuses at the end of the game I guess) while 3 adds all the content we might get from Super. Only adding the new Super content for a Xeno 2 would be a really big disappointment for me.
Just read my ideas from the earlier pages. There is so much potential for an original story that I'd rather not see it saturated with movie content. That stuff should just be side PQ's with their own mini stories.
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Looking at over half the wishlists in this thread, wouldn't it have just been easier to say "all characters from the franchise"? I mean zero offense, but some of these lists are really, really scraping the bottom of the barrel. 
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I couldn't agree more, why not just throw everyone in there. You don't even have to include everyone at once, release character packs as DLCs along with new story content,TheDevilsCorpse wrote:Looking at over half the wishlists in this thread, wouldn't it have just been easier to say "all characters from the franchise"? I mean zero offense, but some of these lists are really, really scraping the bottom of the barrel.
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We do have humanoid animals in the DB world. So why not add them for the character creation mode?
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but how would you make them unique stat wise?Hellspawn28 wrote:We do have humanoid animals in the DB world. So why not add them for the character creation mode?
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Do they really need to be? They're still Earthlings. Just add the animal customization options to the already existing race.
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- More to do on story missions than just fighting.
- Honestly? I'd rather the second game be all about exploring "What-Ifs" splintered off from the main timeline, both serious (what if Raditz took Gohan and left Earth? What if Goku crashed somewhere en route to Namek? What if Vegeta went villain again after turning SSJ? What if Goku never came back for Buu, and it was all on Gohan and the kids?) and fun (what if Chi Chi had to stop the Saiyans? What if Babidi never turned up and the 22nd Tournament went on without a hitch?)
- Honestly? I'd rather the second game be all about exploring "What-Ifs" splintered off from the main timeline, both serious (what if Raditz took Gohan and left Earth? What if Goku crashed somewhere en route to Namek? What if Vegeta went villain again after turning SSJ? What if Goku never came back for Buu, and it was all on Gohan and the kids?) and fun (what if Chi Chi had to stop the Saiyans? What if Babidi never turned up and the 22nd Tournament went on without a hitch?)






