"Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

[ekrolo2]

What episodes of Super did King Ryu direct so far?

As Jacob said, he's a script writer. He wrote episodes #2, #6, #11, #12, #13, #14, #21, #28 and #29.

So pretty much all the ones worth a damn (except 12). The odds of Super improving have just gotten quite a bit better.

[GodVegetto91]

So tonights episode will be written by King Ryu aswell right?

All episodes in the Champa arc starting tomorrows episode will be written by King Ryu.

Okay thanks. Great to know! That's tonight where i live.

[JulieYBM]

We know at least #31-34 will be written by King Ryuu. We do not know who is writing past that yet.

[GodVegetto91]

We know at least #31-34 will be written by King Ryuu. We do not know who is writing past that yet.

Most likely himself aswell. He's credited as the composer for the entire Champa Arc. And while he may not litterally write EVERY episode. He's sure to be writing at least 90% of the arc. Since the Champa Arc is going to last for quite a while afterall.

[JulieYBM]

Series composers do not always write every episode. King Ryuu can easily pass some other episodes off.

[GodVegetto91]

Series composers do not always write every episode. King Ryuu can easily pass some other episodes off.

But they will still be written under his strict eye and guidance. He will definitely make sure it's quality will be OK.
He will "oversee" the other writers to make sure they don't screw up, whenever he isn't writing the episode himself.

[emperior]

It's incredible to see King Ryuu was the writer of my favorite episodes.
I loved episode 21, if King Ryuu delivers and stays consistent, then Super is really finally getting awesome.

[GodVegetto91]

So guys.. How would you rank the writers of the episodes?
We all know that King Ryu is the best without a doubt.
But i must say that Yoshifumi Fukushima is pretty good aswell.
Judging by many past episodes of Super.

Any other episode that wasn't written by King Ryu or Yoshifumi Fukushima ironically turned out to be one of the worst episodes. (Though i must say episode 9 was very good) it had some animation issues but the SSJG transformation was handled perfectly! Like a true god xD

So..
1. King Ryu
2. Yoshifumi Fukushima
3. Anyone else that isn't these 2.

Sounds legit?

[Ajay]

There's not a whole lot of choice. Pretty much anyone not Koyama has been fairly okay.

[Doctor.]

What has Koyama done that is so awful? I don't think his episodes have been bad at all, mediocre at best but not bad.

[Ajay]

Nothing outright offensive, I suppose. He just has a whole bunch of problematic episodes under his belt.

His episode 10 was the first to depict Goku actually enjoying SSJ God, which I wasn't the biggest fan of. Episode 19 had absolutely zero creativity and was literally just a remake of the film. Episode 23 was pretty poorly written, with many events rushed through that you'd expect to linger on. I think episode 4 and 26 were the only two that I didn't have major issues with.

He just seems like the least creative of the bunch.

[GodVegetto91]

Nothing outright offensive, I suppose. He just has a whole bunch of problematic episodes under his belt.

His episode 10 was the first to depict Goku actually enjoying SSJ God, which I wasn't the biggest fan of. Episode 19 had absolutely zero creativity and was literally just a remake of the film. Episode 23 was pretty poorly written, with many events rushed through that you'd expect to linger on. I think episode 4 and 26 were the only two that I didn't have major issues with.

He just seems like the least creative of the bunch.

Uhm no. Episode 4 was the worst episode of Super so far. It was a Pilaf episode. And nobody cares about Pilaf.

[Ajay]

Why are you responding "Uhm no" to an opinion? I enjoyed the Pilaf antics in episode 4, as did many users on this forum. Lots of people care for Pilaf. Let's not speak for others when what you're saying is a grossly incorrect generalisation.

For me, episode 12 was the worst from a storytelling point of view. But this is an animation thread and I've thoroughly discussed this before.

[GodVegetto91]

Why are you responding "Uhm no" to an opinion? I enjoyed the Pilaf antics in episode 4, as did many users on this forum. Lots of people care for Pilaf. Let's not speak for others when what you're saying is a grossly incorrect generalisation.

For me, episode 12 was the worst from a storytelling point of view. But this is an animation thread and I've thoroughly discussed this before.

MOST people don't care for Pilaf.(OUTSIDE this forum) I know that much. And episode 12 gave us Universal Level Characters and the animation was on point. But hey opinions. So let's just agree to disagree.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Gotta side with Ajay here. Episode 12 spent half the time recycling the limited animation it did have, was the culprit for the dumb dragon auras, and introduced the concept of the destruction waves...which was terribly executed (especially their "just a brawl" write out). Besides the art being on model, it was a a pretty terrible episode from the script on up through the rest of the production.

Other than not explaining why Pilaf's gang are children in this version, their antics have been enjoyable (as always).

[MozillaVulpix]

The biggest problem with Episode 12 is that now "Why don't their battles destroy the universe?" is a legitimate question that's going to plague the series from now on. It's why I like to selectively ignore that episode exists.

[Doctor.]

The biggest problem with Episode 12 is that now "Why don't their battles destroy the universe?" is a legitimate question that's going to plague the series from now on. It's why I like to selectively ignore that episode exists.

I don't see why. The episode gives you an answer. Goku managed to develop a technique that lets him cancel out his opponents' blows, in a similar fashion to Beerus, who can cancel out Ki. The episode itself is answering the question already.

[Sodhi]

I don't see why. The episode gives you an answer. Goku managed to develop a technique that lets him cancel out his opponents' blows, in a similar fashion to Beerus, who can cancel out Ki. The episode itself is answering the question already.

That logic was thrown out the window in golden freeza fight though. We did not see a single shock wave, even though mostly none of their blows were 180 degree angle nor their powers of the blows/attacks were equal.

[GodVegetto91]

The biggest problem with Episode 12 is that now "Why don't their battles destroy the universe?" is a legitimate question that's going to plague the series from now on. It's why I like to selectively ignore that episode exists.

That's true. Like with the battle between Golden Freeza for instance. But i have a theory. Sending out universal shockwaves may only occur when people are equal to eachother. Like God Goku and the equally enough "surpressed" Beerus. Or Beerus and Champa. Now if someone is significantly more powerful than his opponent Like Whis>Beerus for instance it might cancel out their universal shockwaves. Though it doesn't explain the Golden Freeza fight. And yeah they've cornered themselves into a tight spot with this ofcourse.

[Lord Beerus]

Gotta side with Ajay here. Episode 12 spent half the time recycling the limited animation it did have, was the culprit for the dumb dragon auras, and introduced the concept of the destruction waves...which was terribly executed (especially their "just a brawl" write out). Besides the art being on model, it was a a pretty terrible episode from the script on up through the rest of the production.

Other than not explaining why Pilaf's gang are children in this version, their antics have been enjoyable (as always).

Bite your tongue! The Dragon auras were awesome! The concept was so dumb that they came around to be entertaining.