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Re: What happens when Masako Nozawa passes away in the futur

Post by FlorianGran » Mon Feb 15, 2016 5:41 pm

ShaneisMC wrote:Does Toriyama hold enough ownership to veto continuation of the series if he were to say everything is over halt production? Or if not do you believe Toei respects him enough to treat the series as he wishes?
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Re: What happens when Masako Nozawa passes away in the futur

Post by TripleRach » Mon Feb 15, 2016 6:40 pm

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Re: What happens when Masako Nozawa passes away in the futur

Post by Mewzard » Mon Feb 15, 2016 10:40 pm

kei17 wrote:Toei should give a secret audition and choose the next Goku beforehand, or reboot the series with the whole new cast while the original actors are still alive. Personally, I prefer the latter option.
While that might work, it happened with Saint Seiya, and that got a pretty vicious outcry over the replacements. They kept going for the most part (though Tohru Furuya did come back for Saint Seiya Omega as an older Seiya), but it was not a peaceful transition for the fandom at first.

I think most people would like their voice cast to stick around for as long as possible.

That said, even the best voice actors must be replaced eventually, and even if fans are upset at first, they will come around eventually (like with Mel Blanc's passing many years ago).

I suppose a compromise to keep a voice actor as long as they are able to do their role. When it becomes too difficult/impossible, let them retire from it (even Akira Kamiya retired from Kenshiro eventually, those screams must have been murder on the throat, especially as he aged).
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Re: What happens when Masako Nozawa passes away in the futur

Post by JulieYBM » Mon Feb 15, 2016 11:34 pm

Wholesale recast is the best option. It gives the cast a chance to create a stable dynamic from the ground up, rather than patching something together unwieldy together. Hopefully when this happens it is with a remake of the story from the beginning and not just another storyline after the battle with Universe Six or something.
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Re: What happens when Masako Nozawa passes away in the futur

Post by Khin » Tue Feb 16, 2016 7:10 am

Toritama would probably kill Goku for good and have Gohan/Goten's voice replaced.

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Re: What happens when Masako Nozawa passes away in the futur

Post by sintzu » Tue Feb 16, 2016 12:57 pm

It'll be a real shame when she steps down but at this points DB is a very big money making machine for multiple companies in and outside of Japan so a voice actor/actress or even the creator himself passing away won't be enough to stop production on new content for the franchise.
ShaneisMC wrote:Does Toriyama hold enough ownership to veto continuation of the series if he were to say everything is over halt production ?

Or if not do you believe Toei respects him enough to treat the series as he wishes?

No cause too many companies are involved with it both domestically and internationally.

They've been letting him have his way so far but if they try to stop production on new content (weather it's due to him asking or for other reasons) then not only would they lose the rights to the franchise but the fallout between them and Shueisha could lead to them losing the rights to other shows such as One Piece so I doubt they'll risk putting their business in jeopardy for one person.
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Re: What happens when Masako Nozawa passes away in the futur

Post by ShaneisMC » Tue Feb 16, 2016 1:10 pm

sintzu wrote:It'll be a real shame when she steps down but at this points DB is a very big money making machine for multiple companies in and outside of Japan so a voice actor/actress or even the creator himself passing away won't be enough to stop production on new content for the franchise.
ShaneisMC wrote:Does Toriyama hold enough ownership to veto continuation of the series if he were to say everything is over halt production ?

Or if not do you believe Toei respects him enough to treat the series as he wishes?

No cause too many companies are involved with it both domestically and internationally.

They've been letting him have his way so far but if they try to stop production on new content (weather it's due to him asking or for other reasons) then not only would they lose the rights to the franchise but the fallout between them and Shueisha could lead to them losing the rights to other shows such as One Piece so I doubt they'll risk putting their business in jeopardy for one person.
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Re: What happens when Masako Nozawa passes away in the futur

Post by sintzu » Tue Feb 16, 2016 1:23 pm

ShaneisMC wrote: Vote with your wallets errybody. If stuff starts getting awful stop supporting it and dont give views. Rather it end with relative dignity than GT v2.
The current DB is aimed at kids and kids don't care about quality so it'll go on regardless of it's quality.
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Re: What happens when Masako Nozawa passes away in the futur

Post by TheBlackPaladin » Tue Feb 16, 2016 1:37 pm

sintzu wrote:
ShaneisMC wrote: Vote with your wallets errybody. If stuff starts getting awful stop supporting it and dont give views. Rather it end with relative dignity than GT v2.
The current DB is aimed at kids and kids don't care about quality so it'll go on regardless of it's quality.
Well, every single Dragon Ball series product ever made--whether it be the manga or one of the anime series--has been aimed at kids, so that's nothing new. Quite frankly, the original anime series had their fair share of quality issues here and there. I think we just overlook that because we were younger at the time. In Dragon Ball fandom, the phrase "nostalgia vision" is usually applied to fans of the DBZ dub who won't (or can't) recognize its shortcomings, but dub fans aren't the only ones guilty of fondly remembering something that had flaws.
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Re: What happens when Masako Nozawa passes away in the futur

Post by sintzu » Tue Feb 16, 2016 1:50 pm

TheBlackPaladin wrote:
Well, every single Dragon Ball series product ever made--whether it be the manga or one of the anime series--has been aimed at kids.
The original was like BTAS, it was made for kids but it had great stories and production value that made it suitable for adults as well.

Can we say that about Super ? if Shueisha announced a 1000$ dragon box for Super do you think adults will be buying it like they did with the original ?
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Re: What happens when Masako Nozawa passes away in the futur

Post by Araki » Tue Feb 16, 2016 2:40 pm

kei17 wrote: or reboot the series with the whole new cast while the original actors are still alive. Personally, I prefer the latter option.
That would be a really, really bad idea. Japanese fans never react peacefully to recasts of beloved VAs UNLESS the original actors die or aren't able to work.

So, when it comes the day where Nozawa can't voice Goku anymore, fans will accept a natural transition, even if it may take a long while to get used.
sintzu wrote:Can we say that about Super ? if Shueisha announced a 1000$ dragon box for Super do you think adults will be buying it like they did with the original ?
The adults that buy those expensive boxes do it because most of them watched DBZ as kids, so that's not really a good comparison.

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Post by Metalwario64 » Tue Feb 16, 2016 2:43 pm

Araki wrote:
kei17 wrote: or reboot the series with the whole new cast while the original actors are still alive. Personally, I prefer the latter option.
That would be a really, really bad idea. Japanese fans never react peacefully to recasts of beloved VAs UNLESS the original actors die or aren't able to work.

So, when it comes the day where Nozawa can't voice Goku anymore, fans will accept a natural transition, even if it may take a long while to get used.
Kei is Japanese. Also, Fist of the North Star did that during its mid 2000s revival, though I didn't like it personally (Akira Kamiya is Kenshiro to me).
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Re: What happens when Masako Nozawa passes away in the futur

Post by B » Tue Feb 16, 2016 4:59 pm

Obviously it will sting if and when everyone is recast, but just starting over fresh, to me, seems like a more sensible option than what is kind of currently happening; we wait for an actor to get too ill to perform anymore and then get a new guy in. It would just be super weird if, say, Horikawa wasn't able to do Vegeta anymore, and a brand new actor has to come in and play off Nozawa, Tsuru, and Kusao as if he's been there the whole time and has a rapport with everyone.
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Re: What happens when Masako Nozawa passes away in the futur

Post by TheBlackPaladin » Tue Feb 16, 2016 5:35 pm

sintzu wrote:
TheBlackPaladin wrote:
Well, every single Dragon Ball series product ever made--whether it be the manga or one of the anime series--has been aimed at kids.
The original was like BTAS, it was made for kids but it had great stories and production value that made it suitable for adults as well.

Can we say that about Super ? if Shueisha announced a 1000$ dragon box for Super do you think adults will be buying it like they did with the original ?
One could argue that Super is a downgrade overall, but again, the original anime series were not without their horribly bad moments and low production values. I mean, people point out all the time how pretty much every place on Planet Namek looks the same...and that was, in all likelihood, a way to save animators some time.

As for making a $1,000 Dragon Box for Super...would current adults buy it? Outside of the most devoted fans, probably not. I bet future generations who were introduced to the Dragon Ball universe by way of Super probably would, though.
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Re: What happens when Masako Nozawa passes away in the futur

Post by Araki » Thu Feb 18, 2016 12:11 pm

Metalwario64 wrote:Kei is Japanese.
Another reason he should know that very well.
Also, Fist of the North Star did that during its mid 2000s revival, though I didn't like it personally (Akira Kamiya is Kenshiro to me).
Kenshiro had like 3 or 4 voices since Shin Hokuto no Ken came out, and Takehito Koyasu voiced him. But I think people didn't make such a big fuss because Akira Kamiya himself said doing Kenshiro was getting bad for his vocal chords, and yet, no one managed to be accepted like him and Kenji Utsumi (Raoh) were. I remember when those movies came out and people couldn't stop complaining about the voices.

That's why i said, voice replacements are only seen as "ok" when the original VAs can't do it anymore.

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Post by alakazam^ » Mon Feb 22, 2016 10:41 pm

sintzu wrote:It'll be a real shame when she steps down but at this points DB is a very big money making machine for multiple companies in and outside of Japan so a voice actor/actress or even the creator himself passing away won't be enough to stop production on new content for the franchise.
ShaneisMC wrote:Does Toriyama hold enough ownership to veto continuation of the series if he were to say everything is over halt production ?

Or if not do you believe Toei respects him enough to treat the series as he wishes?

No cause too many companies are involved with it both domestically and internationally.

They've been letting him have his way so far but if they try to stop production on new content (weather it's due to him asking or for other reasons) then not only would they lose the rights to the franchise but the fallout between them and Shueisha could lead to them losing the rights to other shows such as One Piece so I doubt they'll risk putting their business in jeopardy for one person.
I don't know the details but, apparently, Naoko Takeuchi had the power to stop Sailor Moon from being broadcasted globally over some issues with Toei. So, it's possible Toriyama has more power than we think he does.

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Post by Noah » Fri Mar 04, 2016 5:08 pm

It will be a really sad day for the franchise :cry:

but I wonder, will we get another seiyuu to voice Goku, Gohan, Goten and etc. or would we get different seiyuu for the first time in the series to voice them differently?
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Post by KIbawler » Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:19 pm

precita wrote:Masako Nozawa is 79 years old. She may only be able to voice Goku for about 5 more years before serious health complications cause her to retire, even if she lives to 100 years old. We've already seen it happen with King Kai's Japanese VA. She probably won't be able to do Goku's screaming or performances even if for much longer.

Japan has known Masako Nozawa as Goku for over 30 years. Will they be able to accept a new person voicing Goku when Masako Nozawa passes away? Or will this cause TOEI to wrap up Dragonball Super and let the series rest?

I assume the videogames/merch will continue but they can just re-use old Goku sound clips for those. But will they end the anime series once more?
When it comes to japan, they usually don't bother to do casting and hire sound-alike VA's that had voice timing similar to the previous one, and i mean ones that actually can sound in voice almost as possible like the previous one, remember the fiascos when they recasted the original cast of Saint Seiya?, or how none of the Kenshiro VA's sounded even closer to Akira Kamiya's performance in the 80s? yeah they don't bother to go the extra mile, i don't know if there is not seen as a big deal.

Or heck, remember what happened to chichi, when Mayumi Sho got replaced? did the new VA sounded even a bit alike to Mayumi's voice?

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Post by alakazam^ » Sat Mar 05, 2016 12:23 am

KIbawler wrote:Or heck, remember what happened to chichi, when Mayumi Sho got replaced? did the new VA sounded even a bit alike to Mayumi's voice?
Yes, she does. So does the voice actor for Kaioushin/Kibitoshin sound like Yuuji Mitsuya.

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Post by coola » Wed Jun 15, 2016 12:24 pm

While it is very sad, to hear that Janet Waldo (Judy Jetson, Penelope Pitstop) and Alan Young (Wilbur in Mister Ed and Scrooge McDuck) passed away just few days ago, 96 years is pretty admirable, and i hope most people could live that long (Except bad people of course)
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