Do you want Dragon Ball to continue indefinitely?

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Do you want Dragon Ball to continue indefinitely?

Post by Dragon Ball Ireland » Sat Feb 20, 2016 2:44 pm

I'm one of those people who likes my favourite franchises to stick around in one form or another rather than cease production and Blackenfist's video about whether or not Dragon Ball is being milked got me thinking about the property everyone here undoubtedly has a certain level of fondness for.

The video games will more than likely be around for a very long time, unless there is a string of titles that bomb and get panned. I also think Xenoverse has taken the games in the right direction, and the future will be interesting.

Personally I'm hoping if Super turns out to be a lengthy series and lasts around 150-200 episodes TOEI will take a long break from the main storyline with the exception of perhaps the odd movie here and there. In that time I'd love to see Dragon Ball spinoffs, though I'm not sure if they would take a chance on a new series without Goku as the main character.

And although I wasn't as unhappy as some with Kai recycling DBZ footage (it gives those of us who can't afford the Dragon Boxes a way of having most of what is essentially the same show in 4:3) I would be interested in seeing a fully reanimated/reboot of the series with modern animation provided TOEI get their act together.

And then there's Funimation's tendency in recent years to milk the home releases. Right now if they do rerelease the series again I'd be content with them doing Dragon Boxes for DB, DBGT, the movies or a good HD remaster of the entire series on Blu-ray in its original aspect ratio, although a full home release of the Ocean and Blue Water dubs would be an extra but I've given up hope on ever seeing that.

Basically do you want to see more Dragon Ball for years to come? Can there ever be too much for you, or do you just want TOEI and anyone else involved to be cautious of creating quality content?
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Re: Do you want Dragon Ball to continue indefinitely?

Post by Deathbringer » Sat Feb 20, 2016 3:03 pm

Fighting games, home releases and the like can continue for as long as they can but the actual story of Dragon Ball (i.e. the heart/core/essence/soul/true form/whatever of the series) has a clear beginning and ending where Goku grows up throughout so even if Toriyama writes more stories between the Majin Boo arc and the final manga chapter or if he even goes beyond that then there is still a point where the story ends, unless of course he continues it with Pan, Bra, Oob, Goten and Trunks which might start to feel like it's being milked (but at the same time without the main cast from the previous series it might actually soften the blow and feel less like they're treading old ground).

The way Toriyama is going about these new stories feels like he considers the ending to the manga to still be the definitive end to the series though, I would be surprised if he wanted to continue past that ending or if someone else wanted to continue past, which Toei already tried with GT.

To answer the topic question I don't want it to go on forever, even the manga on its own already felt complete enough but as long as the new story-related stuff is good I'll still enjoy it.

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Re: Do you want Dragon Ball to continue indefinitely?

Post by Jaetinh » Sat Feb 20, 2016 3:14 pm

Dragon Ball Super should continue as long as Toriyama is the one writing the story/script/notes.

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Re: Do you want Dragon Ball to continue indefinitely?

Post by Hellspawn28 » Sat Feb 20, 2016 3:19 pm

Super will go on as long if toys are selling. I do think Dragon Ball will take another decade rest in the near future. Every franchises will take a break once and awhile.
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Re: Do you want Dragon Ball to continue indefinitely?

Post by Dragon Ball Ireland » Sat Feb 20, 2016 3:25 pm

Deathbringer wrote:Fighting games, home releases and the like can continue for as long as they can but the actual story of Dragon Ball (i.e. the heart/core/essence/soul/true form/whatever of the series) has a clear beginning and ending where Goku grows up throughout so even if Toriyama writes more stories between the Majin Boo arc and the final manga chapter or if he even goes beyond that then there is still a point where the story ends, unless of course he continues it with Pan, Bra, Oob, Goten and Trunks which might start to feel like it's being milked (but at the same time without the main cast from the previous series it might actually soften the blow and feel less like they're treading old ground).

The way Toriyama is going about these new stories feels like he considers the ending to the manga to still be the definitive end to the series though, I would be surprised if he wanted to continue past that ending or if someone else wanted to continue past, which Toei already tried with GT.
I agree, I think at some point the milking of the 10-year time of "peace" has to stop because there's no drama if you already know what happens in the final manga chapters. That said I think TOEI don't want to overwrite the GT timeline (even if it doesn't fit with the continuity established by Super and the movies) because doing that may affect sales of DBGT home releases (the existing DVDs, and possible future Blu-Rays).
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Re: Do you want Dragon Ball to continue indefinitely?

Post by Chuquita » Sat Feb 20, 2016 3:41 pm

With the video games it doesn't matter to me.

With the story..as long as everyone's in character and the plot is fun I'm fine with it going on until whenever. I still feel like Super has an end date in mind with how fast it's moving compared to Z. I'm starting to think we've only got a year (48 to 50) episodes total. The lack of training episodes are what makes me think that. Also the way One Piece drags compared to Super. We're moving at a speed closer to what yearly Precure series do.

At this point in time though, the only thing that'd make me drop DB/retire from DB is if they were to do a full cast reboot. Like if they get rid of Gokû and Vegeta, that's my cue to leave too. I know there are those interested in a cast reboot, but I'm just not one of them.

I do think GT and EoZ are roadblocking Super from getting to do any serious arcs with repercussions and it's a shame. I'd be ok with retconning parts of EoZ and all of GT if it brought the tension back that was present in Z.
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Re: Do you want Dragon Ball to continue indefinitely?

Post by fadeddreams5 » Sat Feb 20, 2016 3:49 pm

Eh. As far as video games and movies go, yeah, sure.

But anime? It depends on the direction this new arc goes. But even then, I'd only like two new sagas, including this one. Then, call it quits. I just feel this sort of series will grow old very fast because of the power scales at this point. And I'm not a fan of a slice of life-only series, which is basically what the majority of Super has been.

A spin-off starring Uub? I'd watch it, but it's bound to fail unless Goku is a prominent character.
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Re: Do you want Dragon Ball to continue indefinitely?

Post by WittyUsername » Sat Feb 20, 2016 4:02 pm

As far as the anime is concerned, no. I think Super would be better off ending after the tournament arc with Champa is resolved. I can't really imagine where they would go from there, and I think there's a limit to how far you can milk a franchise that "concluded" 20 years ago.

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Re: Do you want Dragon Ball to continue indefinitely?

Post by Dragon Ball Ireland » Sat Feb 20, 2016 4:12 pm

Chuquita wrote:With the story..as long as everyone's in character and the plot is fun I'm fine with it going on until whenever. I still feel like Super has an end date in mind with how fast it's moving compared to Z. I'm starting to think we've only got a year (48 to 50) episodes total. The lack of training episodes are what makes me think that. Also the way One Piece drags compared to Super. We're moving at a speed closer to what yearly Precure series do.
I think Super will have more than 48-50 episodes, mostly because of the world building we've seen so far and I have a feeling there will be a new movie next year announced in July, meaning TOEI will want to keep people's interest for another year and hopefully beat Resurrection F's box office.
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Re: Do you want Dragon Ball to continue indefinitely?

Post by Chuquita » Sat Feb 20, 2016 4:41 pm

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Chuquita wrote:With the story..as long as everyone's in character and the plot is fun I'm fine with it going on until whenever. I still feel like Super has an end date in mind with how fast it's moving compared to Z. I'm starting to think we've only got a year (48 to 50) episodes total. The lack of training episodes are what makes me think that. Also the way One Piece drags compared to Super. We're moving at a speed closer to what yearly Precure series do.
I think Super will have more than 48-50 episodes, mostly because of the world building we've seen so far and I have a feeling there will be a new movie next year announced in July, meaning TOEI will want to keep people's interest for another year and hopefully beat Resurrection F's box office.
I hope so. It'd be great if true. I'll be happy if Super goes on longer than a year. I'd be thrilled to get another movie!

I think I'm just pessimistic atm because of how disappointed I am in how last week's episode was. (Wasting an entire episode on Zuno where they could've had that be only the first half felt like bad time management to me).

This week's episode could easily turn things around to optimistic again for all I know.
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Re: Do you want Dragon Ball to continue indefinitely?

Post by Hellspawn28 » Sat Feb 20, 2016 5:22 pm

Did you guys not see how much money that Dragon Ball is making right now? It would be foolish to end Super after the Champa saga. Super will probably go up to 100 episodes at this rate. I do think it's likely that Super will have a longer run than GT and I think it will last up to 2019 or maybe 2020.
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Re: Do you want Dragon Ball to continue indefinitely?

Post by Dragon Ball Ireland » Sat Feb 20, 2016 5:46 pm

Chuquita wrote:I hope so. It'd be great if true. I'll be happy if Super goes on longer than a year. I'd be thrilled to get another movie!

I think I'm just pessimistic atm because of how disappointed I am in how last week's episode was. (Wasting an entire episode on Zuno where they could've had that be only the first half felt like bad time management to me).
Agreed, I'd love to see another movie if only for the animation quality.

Chuquita wrote:This week's episode could easily turn things around to optimistic again for all I know.
I guess we'll see in a few hours.
Hellspawn28 wrote:Did you guys not see how much money that Dragon Ball is making right now? It would be foolish to end Super after the Champa saga. Super will probably go up to 100 episodes at this rate. I do think it's likely that Super will have a longer run than GT and I think it will last up to 2019 or maybe 2020.
I suppose it depends on whether or not ratings remain steady. If it runs until 2020 Super would nearly be as long as DBZ, which is good in a way because it would give the fans plenty of newer material to enjoy for the 10 or so years that follow assuming the series will take another long break as it did after GT. I just hope the animation and story of the coming episodes will be reasonably enjoyable.
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Re: Do you want Dragon Ball to continue indefinitely?

Post by Hellspawn28 » Sat Feb 20, 2016 5:48 pm

As long they can tell a good story than I don't mind Super having 100 episodes. I do agree that if it goes on too long, I may stop since I would not keep up with it. That's why I stop watching One Piece, Case Close and Sgt. Frog because they went on for way too long.
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Post by UltimateHammerBro » Sat Feb 20, 2016 6:45 pm

To be fair, while I'm enjoying the last episodes of Super, I wouldn't have wanted Dragon Ball to continue.
We had the manga with its ending, an anime adapting it, and a sequel we could either accept or not. The story was told.
Kai and video games kept selling, the original series was also airing all over the world, and some countries were starting to air it for the first time, or re-licensing it, so it still made money, many years after the franchise had properly ended.

My ideal situation: keep games and Kai circulating, and maybe in fifteen more years or so, when the original anime looks so old it's totally unmarketable, consider doing a full reboot of the series (which, of course, could have its own turns and twists), while leaving the previous one concluded. A similar situation to Dr.Slump.
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Post by JulieYBM » Sat Feb 20, 2016 6:52 pm

Dragon Ball will continue indefinitely whether I want it to or not. I would like talented folks involved in its production, though.
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Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Feb 20, 2016 7:25 pm

Well, as long as good stories are told and we get some decent fights along with them, why not?

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Post by omaro34 » Sat Feb 20, 2016 9:23 pm

All great things must come to an end eventually. With that being said, the video games should always continue
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Re: Do you want Dragon Ball to continue indefinitely?

Post by Gaffer Tape » Sat Feb 20, 2016 9:30 pm

Do I want Dragon Ball to continue indefinitely? Nope. Stories should end. This one ended in 1995. And that was perfectly okay. It not producing new content doesn't keep me from enjoying it.
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Re: Do you want Dragon Ball to continue indefinitely?

Post by Hellspawn28 » Sat Feb 20, 2016 9:40 pm

Dragon Ball is a popular band name. I think Dragon Ball still be around in a century from now as long if the series takes a break once and while.
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Re: Do you want Dragon Ball to continue indefinitely?

Post by sybest » Sat Feb 20, 2016 9:49 pm

I'd be ok with getting movie and game releases every couple of years, but the story of Dragon Ball SHOULD have an ending. Super shouldn't go on 'til the end of time like One Piece and Case Closed are heading. 200 episodes would the sweet mark for Super.

What I'd be interested in would be spin-off show/manga(s) like the adventures of Jaco. But I guess that'd not be financially viable, as the market would be too small.

I also think that some years down the line Dragon Ball would be rebooted. I don't want that too happen, but I see it as a very probable an option.

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