The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[apex_pretador]

gohan (RRA arc, ALIVE body)

VS Tao Pai Pai (RRA arc , no bomb)

[DanielSSJ]

You are showing that power level of weighted goku > PL of unweighted goku. Obviously.
But do the clothes decrease the durability? If anything, they'll increase the durability of a fighter.

Also, weighted goku was evenly matched with suppressed tien. (wow , no autochange?) before tien increased his speed.

If tien forced to remove weights of goku , who was "MUCH" superior in every aspect than speed to his kid self , then how can't he defeat daimao.


If Kami at (OFFICIAL) 220 can defeat 260 daimao with a finger flick , i don't see how tien at 250 can't.

I usually write Kami's 220 level to be specifically for the Saiyan arc. He's old and gettting older and isn't all that physically active. Hell, when he's contemplating his own death, he isn't sure if the cause will be Piccolo being killed by the Saiyans or him succumbing to old age. So it's not implausible that his power went down in the last few years. As far as the Tenshinhan vs. Piccolo debate goes, it's worth noting that nobody but Goku can sense ki yet, so Ten's esimates of Goku's strength and speed might not be entirely prescise. I generally peg him and Daimao as being more-or-less even in strength.

[Analytic]

Tenshinhan couldn't defeat weighted Goku. The only reason he seemed superior to Goku was because of his speed and he still couldn't damaged him in anyway.

Where are you getting that he couldn't damage Son Goku from? We only see him get two solid strikes before Son takes off his weighted clothing; and in both of those instances, he clearly expresses discomfort.

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

Tenshinhan: “Son, you are truly incredible. 3 years ago, your strength was all but perfect. I’m amazed that you’ve managed to go so far above even that. However, there’s one thing that you haven’t changed that much from 3 years ago. And that’s something especially important in battle…speed!”

Here Tenshinhan notes that speed is "especially important" in battle. The wording would make it seem as though it could be a deciding factor in a battle; which it is, because if Son Goku can't land a hit on Tenshinhan, he will eventually be worn down by repeatedly getting hit without dealing any damage to Tenshinhan.

That, along with Tenshinhan expressing confidence in defeating Son Goku (knowing that Son would have improved a great deal from training with God) would prove that Tenshinhan is at least able to defeat Young King Piccolo and Son Goku (post-Sacred Water). Also, before you say Tenshinhan didn't sense Son or King Piccolo:

Spoiler:

Context: still talking about Piccolo's full power
Tenshinhan: “A-an absolutely incredible ki!”

[KentalSSJ6]

Mira (base form, no Rampant or Super Saiyan) VS Super Janemba. Who do you think wins and why?

[Lord Beerus]

Mira (base form, no Rampant or Super Saiyan) VS Super Janemba. Who do you think wins and why?

Hmm. Well, Xenoverse, Mira believed that in his base form could quickly defeat both Super Saiyan 3 Goku and Majin Buu at the same time, even if he were to suppress his power. However, the Player Character manages to defeat Mira during their final battle pretty easily and its later stated that the Player Character was equal to base Super Buu in strength, suggesting that base Mira's full power was slightly below Super Buu. And I'm in the camp that believe that Super Janemba is weaker than Super Boo because Goku was able to hold his own and withstand Janemba's attacks until Janemba started to overboard with his reality warping powers. So in conclusion, I'm backing Janemba to win by overwhelming Mira with his reality warping powers.

[ZombieVito]

Tenshinhan couldn't defeat weighted Goku. The only reason he seemed superior to Goku was because of his speed and he still couldn't damaged him in anyway.

Where are you getting that he couldn't damage Son Goku from? We only see him get two solid strikes before Son takes off his weighted clothing; and in both of those instances, he clearly expresses discomfort.

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

Tenshinhan: “Son, you are truly incredible. 3 years ago, your strength was all but perfect. I’m amazed that you’ve managed to go so far above even that. However, there’s one thing that you haven’t changed that much from 3 years ago. And that’s something especially important in battle…speed!”

Here Tenshinhan notes that speed is "especially important" in battle. The wording would make it seem as though it could be a deciding factor in a battle; which it is, because if Son Goku can't land a hit on Tenshinhan, he will eventually be worn down by repeatedly getting hit without dealing any damage to Tenshinhan.

That, along with Tenshinhan expressing confidence in defeating Son Goku (knowing that Son would have improved a great deal from training with God) would prove that Tenshinhan is at least able to defeat Young King Piccolo and Son Goku (post-Sacred Water). Also, before you say Tenshinhan didn't sense Son or King Piccolo:

Spoiler:

Context: still talking about Piccolo's full power
Tenshinhan: “A-an absolutely incredible ki!”

He hit Goku but he looked completely fine afterwards. Tenshinhan can defeat Piccolo with a good strategy and luck I guess.

[Kaboom]

Ssj 4 Goku (bog) vs Beerus (how many hits does it take Goku to be ko'd and what percent of Beerus)?
Ssj4 broly vs ssj4 Goku and vegeta? ( GT, No fusion)
Ssj4 (Goku, vegeta, gohan, trunks, goten) (bog, no fusion) vs Beerus?
Piccolo (RoF) (merged with all of the namkeians, includes guru and slug. No dende.) vs Vegito base and ssj?

— The only folks in GT who I suspect could defeat the gods are the best of the best. Guys like SS4 Gogeta or Yi Xing Long, who were way stronger than regular Super Saiyan 4 Goku alone, even pushed "beyond his limits" or whatever. I don't know exactly how it would affect the battle or how quickly it ends, but giving Super Saiyan 4 to Goku ten years ahead of time won't let him beat Beerus.
— Putting aside that Super Saiyan 4 is impossible for Broli and assuming the relative power differences haven't changed much since Movie 10... then Broli is still a little bit stronger than either Goku or Vegeta alone, but they can easily beat him working together.
— See the first match-up's answer. To paraphrase Freeza, it's like a handful of ants trying to fight a dinosaur.
— Well, Piccolo can't merge with all the other Namekians, because not all of them are Warrior-types. But based on how strong he got from merging with Nail, he'd be able to beat base Vegetto, but he'd probably run out of Warrior-types before becoming a match for Super Vegetto.

1. SS Grade 3 F trunks (CG, no speed-stamina loss) VS SS GOku (CG)
2. SS goten & SS kid trunks & cell jr VS SS gohan (CG, serious)
3. SS Grade 3 GOHAN (CG, no stamina loss) VS Buff form perfect cell (CG)
4. SS Grade 3 Gohan (CG, no speed-stamina loss) VS Full power perfect cell
5. SS Grade 3 F trunks (vs cell, no speed-stamina loss) VS cell jr
6. SS Grade 3 F trunks (CG, no speed-stamina loss) VS M-8 LSS broly
7. SS kid gohan (serious) , SS goku (CG) , SS vegeta (CG) vs bojack (green form)
8. Super buu absorbs the following - [Bojack, FP PC , Dabura , Freeza , #17 , #18 , #19 , #20 , Majin vegeta , Piccolo , SS gotenks (post)] VS base gokuhan (goku x gohan merged potara)
9. Coolza (cooler x freeza potara merged , true form) vs Majin vegeta , no planet destruction
10. 5th form coolza VS SS3 goku

1. Unless this is an equal-powers thing, then Goku has a significant power advantage and Trunks gets whooped.
2. Gohan has a very big power edge and thrashes all three of his pint-sized opponents at once.
3. I think Grade 3 and SS2 grant the same amount of power, so Gohan's as strong as his SS2 self, and can still beat Cell.
4. Ditto.
5. Yet again, flawless Grade 3 grants an easy win. Vegeta and Trunks had abandoned the Grades and their drawbacks for regular Super Saiyan by the Cell Games, but if not...
6. The winning streak is broken. Broli is on-par with full-power Perfect Cell, and Grade 3's power boost wouldn't let anyone but Goku or Gohan match that.
7. Likewise I think full-power Bojack is roughly as strong as full-power Cell. Even with backup, Gohan would need Super Saiyan 2 to defeat him.
8. Let's see... Boo doesn't get any power from the Androids and their unnatural power sources, but even if he did, I doubt this grand total would let him get even close to "Kuhan." You'd need to toss at least one or two high-SS3-level characters into the mix.
9. Coolza wins, but Vegeta gives him a tough fight.
10. This is a different story though. The difference between Coola's max power in his true form and his "Super" form isn't nearly as large as the difference between SS2 and SS3.

1. Super buu vs 2 cell jrs (they can use fusion dance potara)
2. 1st form freeza vs 4 saibaman ( they can use fusion, then use fusion again, to make one being)
3. Buu arc piccolo namekian fusion with perfect cell VS SS3 gotenks
4. Kami & youth daimao potara fusion vs nappa
5. Hypothetical LSS2 broly (M 10) VS SS3 gohan (25th TB)

1. Just being simple and comparing the Cell Juniors to Super Saiyan Goku and Vegeta... the combined Cell Juniors put up a good fight but still lose.
2. Freeza still wins. The power difference is just too huge.
3. Even if this somehow worked as if Cell was another Warrior-type Namekian, I doubt Piccolo's getting a potent enough boost from it.
4. Potara would be a lot better than simply re-merging the normal way, and super-Kami would probably end up strong enough to win.
5. "Legendary Super Saiyan 2" isn't a real thing outside of possible trading card BS. Broli's regular LSS or SS2 self is completely demolished by SS3 Gohan.

- SSJ Grade 2 Goku (Cell Games) vs. Perfect Cell
- SSJ Grade 2 Gohan (Cell Games) vs. Full Power Perfect Cell
- SSJ Grade 3 Gohan (Cell Games) vs. Perfect Cell Power Weighted
- Rage Boost SSJ2 Gohan (Boo Arc) vs. Majin SSJ2 Vegeta
- Golden Freeza vs. Final Form Frost
- SSJ3 Goku (Universe 6 Arc) x Beerus (60% Full Power)
- SSGSS Goku or/and Vegeta (Post RoSaT) vs. Champa (Full Power)
- SSGSS Goku or/and Vegeta (Post RoSaT) vs. Beerus (Full Power)

— Even if Goku still could or would use Grade 2, it would only grant him a power advantage over the self-restricted Cell he fought. Cell's full power would still be too much for him.
— Same kind of situation, but one step further. This would let Gohan match full-power Cell, but Cell's power-weighted or "super perfect" strength would still trump him.
— Three for three. Gohan can handle power-weighted Cell, but "super perfect" Cell is still too much.
— No good way to tell. Gohan's "rage boosts" are unpredictable and always fleeting. Odds are that Vegeta could withstand whatever Gohan dished out in those few seconds, and then take him out.
— My gut says Golden Freeza, but my apathy for Super doesn't let me care.
— Don't care. Pass.
— Also don't care. Pass again.

A few more equal battle power fights :
- Android #16 vs. Son Goku (23rd Budokai).
- Lord Beerus vs. Vegetto.
- LSSJ Broly vs. Nappa.
- Future Trunks (Cell Games) vs. Yamcha (Cell Games).
- Son Goten (25th Budokai) vs. Nam.
- Kid Buu vs. Piccolo (Buu arc).
- Pikkon vs. Tien (Revival of F).

— That unlimited Android stamina is going to win this for 16.
— I dunno, could go either way. Beerus is no doubt extraordinarily skilled, but Goku was able to give him a helluva fight even with a power disadvantage. Vegetto would do even better.
— Probably Nappa. He's smarter and more skilled than Broli, whose overflowing power is going to work against him eventually.
— Trunks by virtue of his opponent being Yamcha.
— Definitely Nam. Goten and Trunks' only standout strength is... well, their strength. Their fighting skills are next to nothing compared to seasoned veterans like Nam.
— Piccolo's going to have a hard time keeping Boo down or finishing him off, and the odds are stacked against him.
— *Flips a coin* Paikuhan wins. He's familiar with big attacks with long charge times, so he'd probably see the Kikoho coming a mile away.

Vegito vs. Buuhan (No candy beam or absorbing). Base on what we seen so far, who wins?

Uh... it wasn't obvious that Vegetto was in complete domination of the entire fight and could have eradicated Boo whenever he felt like it? Unless you meant base Vegetto, in which case the tables are most decidedly turned.

Piccolo [vs Nappa] vs Oozaru Gohan [vs Vegeta; Injured]. No tail cutting or blowing up the moon.

Piccolo can win, but as others already said he'll need to take extreme and deadly measures to do so.

- LSSj Broli (Movie 10) and Super Perfect Cell vs. SSj2 Vegeta (Pre Majin) and SSj2 Kid Gohan (Cell Games)
- MSSj Kid Gohan (Cell Games) vs. Kaioshin
- MSSj Trunks (Cell Games) vs. SSj Grade 3 Trunks (Post ROSAT 1st time,No speed issues)
- Cell Junior vs. Perfect Cell (Against SSj Grade 2 Vegeta/Trunks)
- SSj Gohan, Kuririn, Tenshinhan, Muten Roshi, and Jaco (ROF Arc) vs. Tired Final Form Freeza (After the beating he got from SSjB Vegeta)
- Gohan-Boo (No Candy beam or absorption) vs. Botamo

— I actually think Broli is the strongest of these folks by a reasonable margin — a little bit stronger than SS2 Goku or Vegeta. Gohan and Vegeta here could normally take down Broli by working together, but not while fighting Cell at the same time. The odds of one of them successfully holding off Broli while the other manages to defeat Cell are pretty darn low.
— FPSS Trunks is a little bit stronger and has none of Grade 3's weaknesses. He wins, but the fight will take a while.
— Vegeta would know how strong the Cell he lost to was, and he wouldn't think he could win at the Cell Games unless he was at least stronger than that. But the Cell Junior was still at least even with him if not a little stronger. So the Cell Junior is stronger than that restrained Cell, too. However, that doesn't guarantee it'll win, since the Juniors don't seem capable of regenerating. All Cell has to do to win is land a Kienzan or a sufficiently strong Kamehameha.
— Odds are that Freeza is still comfortably ahead of all of them, even when tired out. The most I can see happening is Super Saiyan Gohan making him work a bit.
— Pass.

Chaozu vs 40 Freeza's soldiers from RoF
After shooting two kamehameha's and one Spirit bomb, a tired Yamcha fights Jaco. Note that Yamcha has a broken arm.
Tenshinhan's Shin Kikoho vs #18
Tsuru-sennin, Cyborg Tao & General Blue vs Muten Roshi ( Rof )
Ginyu, Reecome, Jeice, Burter, Guldo, Dodoria and Zarbon vs Tenshinhan, Kuririn, Yamcha, Chaozu and Muten Roshi.

— If even Muten Roshi was able to beat down a few dozen Freeza soldiers, then I have no doubt Chaozu could handle at least this many.
— Yamcha from what time period? At any point after his training on Kaio's, Yamcha has far more than enough power to one-hit-KO Jaco with even one arm.
— There's no discernible difference in the Kikoho's affects on Eighteen than from Cell. It pushes her around and gives her some surface scuffs, but does absolutely no actual damage. Against foes hundreds or thousands of times stronger than him, that's the most Ten can hope for.
— Based on how many Freeza soldiers he easily took down, I'd say Muten Roshi's PL has increased to a few thousand. He can pick these past foes apart almost effortlessly.
— Again, what time period for the Earthling crew? Assuming it's the new movies and Super era (since Muten Roshi's included) then they win, but Kuririn and Tenshinhan end up doing most of the work. They may very well lose Yamcha in the battle.

the biggest battle :
Super Saiyan 3 goku VS Kid buu

Goku's biggest downfall during their fight in the manga was Super Saiyan 3 draining his power. But even before that weakness became apparent, Boo was still giving him a really hard time. Goku was struggling to create the opportunity he needed to finish Boo off. Without the stamina weakness, he'll probably get that chance sooner or later, but the odds aren't good. Plus, even without the extra drain of SS3, Goku is still going to gradually get tired while Boo won't. So it could go either way, but the odds are in Boo's favor. I'd say Goku's got like a 2 out of 5 shot.

Chi-Chi runs a gauntlet
Chi-Chi is healed to full health after each match.

The farthest she gets is Tao Pai Pai or Tambourine through brute strength. Anyone better than that will be too strong and have too much technique for her to surpass.

- Krillin , Tien & Yamcha with KK x20 (stress = goku in freeza arc) AND one senzu each (for every round) Run a gauntlet.

They don't beat anyone on the list. Even Kuririn and Tenshinhan's strength is in the low hundreds of thousands, and so the Kaio-Ken x20 puts them no farther than the low millions. Even before absorbing any energy, Androids 19 and 20 were probably at least on 50% Freeza's level.

- SS3 vegetto (Movie 13) vs base goku (post BoG)
- Perfect cell (vs vegeta) VS "around half" goku at karin tower
- CG Vegeta VS Super vegeta & super trunks (vs semi-cell)
- Mystic gohan vs mystic broly

— It's really unclear just exactly how Goku's power was affected. For now I'm assuming that he has his newly-granted godly ki, but he can't freely access it on his own until undergoing Whis' training. Vegetto absolutely smokes him.
— By my made-up numbers, Goku is a tiny bit weaker, but definitely close enough that the fight could go either way.
— Vegeta's a good chunk stronger than his "Super" self from before, but maybe not stronger enough to defeat both that past self and Trunks 2-on-1. He probably can though.
— The "Ultimate" ritual is dependent on dormant power, and I strongly suspect that most of Broli's is already typically on the surface. The ritual would make him much stronger for sure, but I doubt nearly as strong as Gohan. Broli gets his butt whooped.

SSJ Vegeta post ROSAT vs. Imperfect Cell post absorption. How would that fare?

Vegeta smokes Cell. He seems like he could already fight Stage-2 Cell with just Super Saiyan, and using Grade 2 only cemented his superiority. Stage-1 Cell would be easy pickings even at his strongest.

Young daimao runs a gauntlet 23rd TB

Goku might defeat him, but if not, then being allowed to recover after that match means he clears the list. His younger self is too injured to fight back effectively, and "Shen" is held back too much by the Earthling body.

Kaioshin and Kibitoshin runs the gaunlet individually.

Regular Kaioshin stops after defeating Piccolo; Goku's a decent chunk stronger than him and just too good of a fighter. Merged Kaioshin is on a high Super Saiyan 2 level of power and can defeat SS2 Gohan, but unless he's allowed to recover he's probably too worn out from that to defeat Vegeta too.

- Super Janemba (no sword) vs dead SS3 goku (w/ ONE senzu bean) and kid buu (serious, won't fight goku)
- SS3 gotenks & SS3 goku vs mystic gohan.
- Dr gero (pre vegeta) VS Yakon
- Pui Pui vs Zarbon (regular)
- Bulked up cell vs super perfect cell (equal speed)

— Janemba's way up there trailing just behind Gotenks- and Gohan-Boo in my book. If he fights seriously, he can easily eradicate both Goku and Boo at the same time.
— Goku's not strong enough to really matter in the clash between Gotenks and Gohan, the latter of whom can easily hold out long enough for the former's SS3 to drain away.
— Gero's outmatched in power, but has a shot at winning if he fights smart an absorbs some of Yakon's energy.
— I usually give Pui-Pui some extra credit as "one of the universe's greatest warriors" and consider him to have a PL in the hundred-thousands. Needless to say Zarbon is doomed against power like that.
— "Super Perfect" Cell has a small power level advantage, but power-weighted Cell is probably superior in raw physical strength. Could go either way.

SSJ3 Goku(Buu Saga) and Kid Buu vs Super Janemba

A repeat of apex_pretador's same match-up just above yours... and with the same outcome. Goku and Boo get beaten down hard.

[TheMerchant30]

SSJ2 Adult Gohan vs. SSJ Buu saga Goku?

[Khin]

SSJ2 Adult Gohan vs. SSJ Buu saga Goku?

You mean Boo Arc Teen Gohan ? If so,he wrecks his father.He was only a good chunk weaker than his Cell Games SSj2 self imo.

New Matches
- Base Goku (ROF Arc) vs. Super Saiyan God Goku
- SSj Vegeta (Pre Majin) vs. Dabra
- Vegeta (vs.Recoome) and Monster Zarbon vs. Recoome
- Ginyu,Jheese,Burta,Recoome and Gurd vs. Kaioken Goku (Against Ginyu)
- Piccolo (Trunks's Arrival) vs. Third Form Freeza (Namek)
- Hypothetical SSj3 Gogeta (Boo Arc) vs. Ultimate Gohan
- Hypothetical SSj3 Vegetto (Boo Arc) vs. Hypothetical Ultimate Gokhan (Boo Arc)
- Android 19 (Post Absorption) vs. Dr.Gero (Post Absorption)
- Android 18 vs. Piccolo (Merged with Kami)
- Super Android 13,Android 16,17,18,19 and Dr.Gero vs. Semi Perfect Cell

[apex_pretador]

SSJ2 Adult Gohan vs. SSJ Buu saga Goku?

If this is PRE training gohan , then goku has a fair chance to win a few times with IT KHH (like 3/10) , but any other version & goku is doomed.

[apex_pretador]

Gohan (RRA arc , ALIVE body) vs Tao Pai Pai (RRA arc , no bomb)

M13 goku SS3 vs buutenks

M13 SS3 goku (w dragon fist) vs GT SS shirtless goku

Android 13 vs future android 18

[ZombieVito]

SSJ2 Adult Gohan vs. SSJ Buu saga Goku?

You mean Boo Arc Teen Gohan ? If so,he wrecks his father.He was only a good chunk weaker than his Cell Games SSj2 self imo.

New Matches
- Base Goku (ROF Arc) vs. Super Saiyan God Goku
- SSj Vegeta (Pre Majin) vs. Dabra
- Vegeta (vs.Recoome) and Monster Zarbon vs. Recoome
- Ginyu,Jheese,Burta,Recoome and Gurd vs. Kaioken Goku (Against Ginyu)
- Piccolo (Trunks's Arrival) vs. Third Form Freeza (Namek)
- Hypothetical SSj3 Gogeta (Boo Arc) vs. Ultimate Gohan
- Hypothetical SSj3 Vegetto (Boo Arc) vs. Hypothetical Ultimate Gokhan (Boo Arc)
- Android 19 (Post Absorption) vs. Dr.Gero (Post Absorption)
- Android 18 vs. Piccolo (Merged with Kami)
- Super Android 13,Android 16,17,18,19 and Dr.Gero vs. Semi Perfect Cell

SSG Goku beats the other Goku the same way he beat Chi Chi in the 23TB.
Dabra finger flicks.
Recoome is a tank. He murders them.
I think the team can win. Specially with Gurd's powers.
Piccolo beats Freeza up bad.
Gogeta takes this.
No idea. Vegetto I guess.
Dr.Gero wins this with high difficulty.
Piccolo would need to take her out quickly, if not then 18 will wear him down.
Cell never reaches perfection.

[DanielSSJ]

SSJ2 Adult Gohan vs. SSJ Buu saga Goku?

You mean Boo Arc Teen Gohan ? If so,he wrecks his father.He was only a good chunk weaker than his Cell Games SSj2 self imo.

New Matches
- Base Goku (ROF Arc) vs. Super Saiyan God Goku
- SSj Vegeta (Pre Majin) vs. Dabra
- Vegeta (vs.Recoome) and Monster Zarbon vs. Recoome
- Ginyu,Jheese,Burta,Recoome and Gurd vs. Kaioken Goku (Against Ginyu)
- Piccolo (Trunks's Arrival) vs. Third Form Freeza (Namek)
- Hypothetical SSj3 Gogeta (Boo Arc) vs. Ultimate Gohan
- Hypothetical SSj3 Vegetto (Boo Arc) vs. Hypothetical Ultimate Gokhan (Boo Arc)
- Android 19 (Post Absorption) vs. Dr.Gero (Post Absorption)
- Android 18 vs. Piccolo (Merged with Kami)
- Super Android 13,Android 16,17,18,19 and Dr.Gero vs. Semi Perfect Cell

- Super Saiyan Blue is implied to be a significant boost to Goku's strength, so I don't think he's quite at that level in his base form just yet.
- I still go with the idea that Dabra was holding back in his fight with Gohan, and that only a Super Saiyan 2 could beat him.
- Vegeta and Zarbon could win if they fight cautiously and carefully. The odds aren't in their favor though.
- Jheese and the others aren't strong enough to make much of a difference. Goku still wins.
- I figure Piccolo is at least surpassed 3rd form Freeza in the year and a half since the Freeza Battle.
- I have SS Gogeta being a notch above U. Gohan. SS3 is overkill.
- Because of the massive power difference between Goku and Gohan, and the difference in the way their powers work, Goku and Gohan aren't optimal fusion partners. Kuhan ends up twice as strong as Gohan in base form, but his Super Saiyan forms don't add much to his power. SS Vegetto is more than sufficient to put Kuhan down, let alone SS3.
- Gero starts off stronger, but I'm willing to bet that 19 got a lot more energy from Goku, that Gero got from Piccolo and Vegeta. 19 wins.
- Piccolo is dead even with 17, who is established to be stronger than his sister. Piccolo wins if he can end it quickly. If he lets himself get worn out, 18 will win.
- 2nd Stage Cell overpowers them all, but I'd bet all of the Androids working together could beat the bug man. 19 and 20 aren't gonna be much help though.

[Darkron2151]

New Matches
- Base Goku (ROF Arc) vs. Super Saiyan God Goku
- SSj Vegeta (Pre Majin) vs. Dabra
- Vegeta (vs.Recoome) and Monster Zarbon vs. Recoome
- Ginyu,Jheese,Burta,Recoome and Gurd vs. Kaioken Goku (Against Ginyu)
- Piccolo (Trunks's Arrival) vs. Third Form Freeza (Namek)
- Hypothetical SSj3 Gogeta (Boo Arc) vs. Ultimate Gohan
- Hypothetical SSj3 Vegetto (Boo Arc) vs. Hypothetical Ultimate Gokhan (Boo Arc)
- Android 19 (Post Absorption) vs. Dr.Gero (Post Absorption)
- Android 18 vs. Piccolo (Merged with Kami)
- Super Android 13,Android 16,17,18,19 and Dr.Gero vs. Semi Perfect Cell

1. Base Goku is nothing special in respect to the "god power" tier. If Whis' "castle to tree" comparison holds any weight, Base Goku =/= SSG Goku IMO. Godku wins rather easily.

2. I have Dabra ~ Perfect Cell (Full Power), so Vegeta ain't touching that level unless he turns SSJ2.

3. If Early DBZ Goku and Piccolo can beat the likes of Raditz, I'm sure Vegeta and Zarbon can find SOME way to take down Recoome. However, his durability will make it a miracle for them to beat. If he's serious, Recoome wins. If he plays and does stupid stuff, the duo win 6/10 times.

4. The group has no chance. Goku using half of this strength was enough for Jheese and Burta to not even see him move. Adding Recoome and Guldo won't solve anything. Guldo can't stop what he can't see as far as his powers are concerned.

5. I have this Piccolo on par with Vegeta (Arrival of Trunks), whose waaaaay stronger than this freeza. The Namekian crushes him.

6. Gogeta wins, but only if he's serious from the beginning and wastes none of his five minutes against Gohan. He has a small, yet distinguishable, power advantage as well.

7-8. Pass

9. Piccolo has an advantage in poer and skill. I can see him taking her out before he has any stamina issues.

10. Cell absorbs the 18 that's there and becomes Perfect.
Just Kidding. He beats 16 and Super 13 first to get the "harder ones" out of the way. 13's slightly weaker than 16 anyways, as 16 was stated to be the strongest android created. Then casually blasts the rest of the group into oblivion.

[Lord Beerus]

Gohan (RRA arc , ALIVE body) vs Tao Pai Pai (RRA arc , no bomb)

M13 goku SS3 vs buutenks

M13 SS3 goku (w dragon fist) vs GT SS shirtless goku

Android 13 vs future android 18

- Tai Pai Pai stomps
- Buutenks one shots
- GT Goku finger flicks
- Future #18 gets wrecked

[ShadowBardock89]

A different kind of versus in Dragon Ball Heroes:
The chances of Raditz becoming Super Saiyan vs. The chances of Nappa becoming Super Saiyan vs. The chances of Tarble becoming Super Saiyan vs. The chances of Tullece becoming Super Saiyan vs. The chances of Pan becoming Super Saiyan.
Who has the best chance?

[DanielSSJ]

A different kind of versus in Dragon Ball Heroes:
The chances of Raditz becoming Super Saiyan vs. The chances of Nappa becoming Super Saiyan vs. The chances of Tarble becoming Super Saiyan vs. The chances of Tullece becoming Super Saiyan vs. The chances of Pan becoming Super Saiyan.
Who has the best chance?

If we're talking about who has the greater potential for going Super Saiyan in-universe, I'd say either Pan or Tullece. If we're talking about who Heroes will turn into a Super Saiyan, still Pan and Tullece.

[supercat]

Piccolo (Champa) versus the following fighters:

Tagoma
Kid Buu
Super Buu
Buutenks
Buuhan
SSJ Vegetto
First Form Frieza (RoF)
Second Form Frieza (RoF)
Third Form Frieza (RoF)
Final Form Frieza (RoF)

I'm inclined to believe that he'd clear this entire gauntlet without batting an eye. He may hit some resistance with Final Form Frieza, but even that would be addressed with moderate difficulty at best in my opinion.

[Khin]

Piccolo (Champa) versus the following fighters:

Tagoma
Kid Buu
Super Buu
Buutenks
Buuhan
SSJ Vegetto
First Form Frieza (RoF)
Second Form Frieza (RoF)
Third Form Frieza (RoF)
Final Form Frieza (RoF)

I'm inclined to believe that he'd clear this entire gauntlet without batting an eye. He may hit some resistance with Final Form Frieza, but even that would be addressed with moderate difficulty at best in my opinion.

Piccolo destroys everyone on the list with little to no difficulty.

Piccolo > Base Goku (Champa Arc) > Base Goku (ROF Arc) = Final Form Freeza (ROF)

[Pocket-God]

No real reason to assume Piccolo suddenly got a massive boost in power out of nowhere, him holding his own against Frost isn't very impressive cause the uni 6 fighters are all weak sauce.
Piccolo (Champa) versus the following fighters:
Tagoma -Wins
Kid Buu -Loses
Super Buu -Loses
Buutenks -Loses
Buuhan -Loses
SSJ Vegetto -Loses
First Form Frieza (RoF) -Wins
Second Form Frieza (RoF) -Loses
Third Form Frieza (RoF) -Loses
Final Form Frieza (RoF) -Loses