"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Ssgvegito30 » Mon Feb 29, 2016 9:24 pm

After watching the latest episode, I have a theory that after this tournament is over goku & vegeta will go to u6 to help out frost to fight warn torn areas and bring peace since he will loose against piccolo or vegeta I figure and champa said if he loses in the tournament he won't help out frost. What are the chances of this??
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by ekrolo2 » Mon Feb 29, 2016 9:36 pm

Ssgvegito30 wrote:After watching the latest episode, I have a theory that after this tournament is over goku & vegeta will go to u6 to help out frost to fight warn torn areas and bring peace since he will loose against piccolo or vegeta I figure and champa said if he loses in the tournament he won't help out frost. What are the chances of this??
Unless they get baited into it by the prospect of fighting a strong opponent, neither Goku nor Vegeta will do anything. The former only really cares about the havoc of villains when it reaches his doorstep and Vegeta doesn't care at all if his own family is okay.
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Post by sayian_nation_ » Mon Feb 29, 2016 9:56 pm

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Ssgvegito30 wrote:After watching the latest episode, I have a theory that after this tournament is over goku & vegeta will go to u6 to help out frost to fight warn torn areas and bring peace since he will loose against piccolo or vegeta I figure and champa said if he loses in the tournament he won't help out frost. What are the chances of this??
Unless they get baited into it by the prospect of fighting a strong opponent, neither Goku nor Vegeta will do anything. The former only really cares about the havoc of villains when it reaches his doorstep and Vegeta doesn't care at all if his own family is okay.
You never know Vegeta did seem very interested in visiting the Saiyan planet once again.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Esfír Dedragón » Mon Feb 29, 2016 10:06 pm

I wonder if the Saiyans from Universe 6 still have a royal family.
Despite them being a warrior race, how is their system of government?
Also, will the series show numerous Saiyans if/when Vegeta visits Planet Sadal?

I'm more than curious to see how they will react to Goku and Vegeta.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Chuquita » Mon Feb 29, 2016 10:11 pm

I want to see Gokû and Vegeta visit Planet Sadla so much. Vegeta's all geared up to compare alternate history notes while Gokû's tagging along so he can adventure with Vegeta-senpai and to see if there's any strong guys on Sadla. XD

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by LightBing » Mon Feb 29, 2016 10:47 pm

I hope Planet Salada doesn't become another Namekian Book of Legends(why was my Piccolo/Indiana Jones dream crushed?!). Some of the new characters are likely to have an important role in the Universe 6 travels. Let's hope that includes a visit to Salada.

Not only that, more planets please! Interesting planets, not what we had with Namek. Most boring planet in the Universe...

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Xeztin » Mon Feb 29, 2016 11:38 pm

I'm still confused at the difference with Frost in the manga and anime. Which is the original design? Was it a mistake on Toyotaro's part? Guess we will find out in the next chapter.

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Post by Neo-Makaiōshin » Mon Feb 29, 2016 11:47 pm

Xeztin wrote:I'm still confused at the difference with Frost in the manga and anime. Which is the original design? Was it a mistake on Toyotaro's part? Guess we will find out in the next chapter.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Xeztin » Tue Mar 01, 2016 12:01 am

You don't see the difference? :eh:

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Cetra » Tue Mar 01, 2016 12:21 am

There is no problem. Each line is a bit different. The characters always look different, because artwork is not 100% consistent.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Xeztin » Tue Mar 01, 2016 12:43 am

Cetra wrote:There is no problem. Each line is a bit different. The characters always look different, because artwork is not 100% consistent.
I think everything's just squared off in the anime's design, which I like the anime's version in that comparison. The manga version looks too much like Freeza.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by DainIronfoot » Tue Mar 01, 2016 2:03 am

Xeztin wrote:
Cetra wrote:There is no problem. Each line is a bit different. The characters always look different, because artwork is not 100% consistent.
I think everything's just squared off in the anime's design, which I like the anime's version in that comparison. The manga version looks too much like Freeza.

I disagree. The art in the Manga has and will always best the anime. If the anime had the same art as the manga, it would be 200 times better. Frost in particular looks so much better in the manga. Then again, everyone does lol.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by ZombieVito » Tue Mar 01, 2016 3:00 am

DainIronfoot wrote:
Xeztin wrote:
Cetra wrote:There is no problem. Each line is a bit different. The characters always look different, because artwork is not 100% consistent.
I think everything's just squared off in the anime's design, which I like the anime's version in that comparison. The manga version looks too much like Freeza.

I disagree. The art in the Manga has and will always best the anime. If the anime had the same art as the manga, it would be 200 times better. Frost in particular looks so much better in the manga. Then again, everyone does lol.
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Post by TheMikado » Tue Mar 01, 2016 9:18 am

The problem the proportions are all wrong. The dome is wrong, the eyes, even the body limbs in relation to his other parts are all wrong. The Mange looks like Toriyama drew it. The Anime looks like a 10 year old drew it an even the face looks far more Americanized than it should.

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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Tue Mar 01, 2016 10:30 am

O...kay...care to explain exactly what is 'Americanized' about it?

I'm conflicted honestly. The only real difference I'm seeing is on the head (mainly the dome shape and the way the rest of the head wraps around the ear...things...), and while I think the art itself is better in the manga version, he looks more like Freeza there, whereas the differences in the anime design make him stand out a little bit more.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Neon Z » Tue Mar 01, 2016 10:43 am

Xeztin wrote:I'm still confused at the difference with Frost in the manga and anime. Which is the original design? Was it a mistake on Toyotaro's part? Guess we will find out in the next chapter.

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Toriyama makes the initial character design, but there's someone else that makes the final lineart used by the anime. So, they're two different takes on Toriyama's design.

I feel like Toyotaro attempts to stay closer to Toriyama's modern art, while the anime often attempts to make things look closer to his old style, resulting in an odd mixed style. Golden Freeza had a strong segmented body, and you can see that even on Frost's chest in the anime. Toyotaro's drawing seems to carry that to all his muscles, while in the anime style outside of the chest they're drawn in a "softer" style closer to Freeza's Z art.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by TheMikado » Tue Mar 01, 2016 11:11 am

Gyt Kaliba wrote:O...kay...care to explain exactly what is 'Americanized' about it?
The facial features in particular. The more proportional spacing and size lose some of that traditional "manga" visual representation that's been pretty iconic. As some one else pointed out the body is softer like the older style however the older style tended to be more intricate and thus lacked shading where the modern style has more simple designs but gains depth through shading. This I'm particularly lacks both complexity or excellent shading. Combining it with the proportions it feels of and non Dragonball in nature. Like a vague callback to Dragonball series characters.

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Post by apex_pretador » Tue Mar 01, 2016 12:49 pm

Xeztin wrote:I'm still confused at the difference with Frost in the manga and anime. Which is the original design? Was it a mistake on Toyotaro's part? Guess we will find out in the next chapter.
Frost in manga looks incredibly better
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by BluePiccolo » Tue Mar 01, 2016 2:08 pm

TheMikado wrote:The problem the proportions are all wrong. The dome is wrong, the eyes, even the body limbs in relation to his other parts are all wrong. The Mange looks like Toriyama drew it. The Anime looks like a 10 year old drew it an even the face looks far more Americanized than it should.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Cetra » Tue Mar 01, 2016 6:03 pm

He looks a lot like Freeza nonetheless.

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