"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Tue Mar 01, 2016 11:26 am

I'm not entirely sure how accurate the translation is, given ANN has made some pretty big missteps on that front in the recent past, but apparently there's a new interview with Tadayashi Yamamuro, as well as Norihiro Hayashida who apparently oversaw production for 'The Final Chapters' of Kai, as well as Resurrection 'F'. I'm posting this here mostly for Yamamuro's comments on the 'animation' debacle of Super though, since it might prove, uh...'interesting'...for people.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/feature ... all/.99269

Edit: Ack, just noticed it's already in another thread here, my bad.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by sintzu » Tue Mar 01, 2016 12:58 pm

What is the future for Dragon Ball movies, then?
Hayashida: We are waiting to see what happens, but there may be something coming soon.
I don't think he'd say that if something wasn't already in development so we'll probably get something in July cause that's when the last 2 movies were announced.

Do you think it'll be a new story or an adaption of the current Champa arc ?
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Post by FutureGohanSSJ2 » Tue Mar 01, 2016 1:16 pm

Do you think it'll be a new story or an adaption of the current Champa arc ?
There's no way it will be an adaptation of the Champa arc. If it is, not only will no one be hyped or excited for the movie, it would be the biggest flop and make absolutely no money. Why should I spend money to go see something that just aired on TV?

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by sintzu » Tue Mar 01, 2016 1:21 pm

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There's no way it will be an adaptation of the Champa arc. If it is, not only will no one be hyped or excited for the movie, it would be the biggest flop and make absolutely no money. Why should I spend money to go see something that just aired on TV?
They turned the movies into arcs so why won't the do it in reverse ?

If people are watching and buying worse versions of something they already have and seen then chances are they'll buy and watch an improved Champa story.

And keep in mind that as of now Super is exclusive to Japan so internationally it'll be a new product.
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Post by ekrolo2 » Tue Mar 01, 2016 1:24 pm

sintzu wrote:
FutureGohanSSJ2 wrote:
There's no way it will be an adaptation of the Champa arc. If it is, not only will no one be hyped or excited for the movie, it would be the biggest flop and make absolutely no money. Why should I spend money to go see something that just aired on TV?
They turned the movies into arcs so why won't the do it in reverse ?

If people are watching and buying worse versions of something they already have and seen then chances are they'll buy and watch an improved Champa story.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by sintzu » Tue Mar 01, 2016 1:30 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:Might as well keep the stupid decision train going a little while longer.
From a business point of view it's not cause it's the easiest way to make $$$.

The story is already done so they don't have to waste time and $$$ coming up with a new one and they can market it using Toriyama's name.
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Post by Xeztin » Tue Mar 01, 2016 1:33 pm

I think it would be the first non canon DBS movie. I think that would be cool to get rid of the DBZ badge on everything and I think when BOG and ROF was released, there wasn't any concrete plans for a series and since it was canon they had to adapt it. I don't think they'd do it for the Champa Arc because then they'd have to do it for every arc after. Me personally I just don't want any more retellings from the anime or movies because in my opinion we got the manga for that. This is just me though.

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Post by sintzu » Tue Mar 01, 2016 1:40 pm

Xeztin wrote: I think that would be cool to get rid of the DBZ badge on everything.

I don't think they'd do it for the Champa Arc because then they'd have to do it for every arc after.

Me personally I just don't want any more retellings from the anime or movies.
I doubt they will for the international market cause Z is the most popular brand.

Which is what they might do cause they'll want Toriyama's name attached to it and with him writing Super he might not have time or ideas for movies as well.

I'm mixed on it, on one hand I want new content so the DB world will get bigger and it'll keep things interesting but on the other hand I want Toriyama's stories to look good which isn't happening in Super as of now so...I guess I'll be happy regardless of what we get.
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Post by Draconic » Tue Mar 01, 2016 2:55 pm

At this point I wouldn't be surprised if a new movie WAS just a theatrical version of the Champa arc. We know Toriyama wrote the story, so who's to say he didn't actually write a script, since there are a lot of points in both the manga and the anime that are pretty much word for word. Toei might have just added some stuff to make it fit into an episodic format, as they did with the retelling of BoG and RoF. On the other hand, we know that the show is going to have at least 52 episodes, from the deal that foreign company who got the rights for a dub deal did, so that would be pretty hard to translate in 2 hours. But we don't know how long this arc will actually take and for what we know it might end by episode 40, with other stuff coming after it. I personally don't want a movie retelling this arc (though it will be nice to have an animated version of this amazing story that most people will enjoy, since it will not have the animation problems of Super) and would much prefer a brand new story, but the possibility is pretty high.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Chuquita » Tue Mar 01, 2016 3:12 pm

The only way I'd want a movie version of this arc is if it covers the RoSaT training a little more in-depth. Otherwise I'd rather just have a new plot (with multiple costume changes ala One Piece Film Gold) instead.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Retan » Tue Mar 01, 2016 4:59 pm

I think a movie based on a tournament would be tough, unless they end it quickly or make it a really long movie.

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Post by FortuneSSJ » Tue Mar 01, 2016 5:05 pm

They can make a movie version of Champa arc and airing on TV. Just like One Piece Episode Of specials.
It would be a bad move make it as a theatrical movie.

My wishes for the next movie is a new plot that takes place in Universe 6 or other Universe but 7.
After BOG revelation about other universes, ROF plot was a step back. But now we are finally moving forward with Champa arc, and that's how it should be.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by sintzu » Tue Mar 01, 2016 5:07 pm

Retan wrote:I think a movie based on a tournament would be tough, unless they end it quickly or make it a really long movie.
The last One Piece movie was 107 minutes long so with how successful BOG and RF were, I don't see why the next DB movie can't be that long or even a bit longer like 120 minutes.

If the pace keeps going as fast as it is now then we'll be done with it by ep37 or ep38 which will make the tournament 10-11 episodes long or less if you don't count ep31 which was a recap episode.

They were able to turn 2 movies into 13-14 episode arcs so I don't see why they won't be able to do it the other way around.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Retan » Tue Mar 01, 2016 5:22 pm

sintzu wrote:
Retan wrote:I think a movie based on a tournament would be tough, unless they end it quickly or make it a really long movie.
The last One Piece movie was 107 minutes long so with how successful BOG and RF were, I don't see why the next DB movie can't be that long or even a bit longer like 120 minutes.
107 wouldn't be long in enough for a full fledged tournament, unless you don't want even early db caliber fights. But maybe? If you want blood sport like fights where a two or three Hit combo is enough. :? Which I don't think I would for a DBS movie.

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Post by sintzu » Tue Mar 01, 2016 5:32 pm

Retan wrote:
107 wouldn't be long in enough for a full fledged tournament, unless you don't want even early db caliber fights. But maybe? If you want blood sport like fights where a two or three Hit combo is enough. :?
We'll get a better idea about how long this will be in a few days when the episode titles leak for the upcoming episodes.

This is how they could do it :

minutes 1-15 : Champa's introduced and the universes are explained.

Minutes 16-25 : Bulma meets Zuno and the Super DBs are explained.

Minutes 26-30 : Goku and Vegeta train in the ROSAT.

Minutes 31-40 : everyone leaves earth and the U6 fighters are introduced.

Minutes 41-45 : Kaybe tells Vegeta about the U6 Saiyans before taking the writing test.

Minutes 46-50 : Goku fights Butamo.

Minutes 51-60 : Goku fights Frost.

I'll update this as soon as we know more but I'll be surprised if it'll be so long that it won't be able to fit in a 100-120 minute time frame.
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Post by jcogginsa » Tue Mar 01, 2016 7:00 pm

I suspect a new movie would be set after the tournement, and Super would then adapt that material for another arc

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Post by Jaetinh » Tue Mar 01, 2016 7:09 pm

They should make a movie like One Piece Film Z where it's not part of the main story but the story still written by Toriyama (Oda - Film Z)

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Post by ekrolo2 » Tue Mar 01, 2016 7:17 pm

jcogginsa wrote:I suspect a new movie would be set after the tournement, and Super would then adapt that material for another arc
That would literally be worse than a sledgehammer smashing you in the balls. Nothing worse could possibly happen then this scenario right here.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by FutureGohanSSJ2 » Tue Mar 01, 2016 8:23 pm

sintzu wrote:
FutureGohanSSJ2 wrote:
There's no way it will be an adaptation of the Champa arc. If it is, not only will no one be hyped or excited for the movie, it would be the biggest flop and make absolutely no money. Why should I spend money to go see something that just aired on TV?
They turned the movies into arcs so why won't the do it in reverse ?

If people are watching and buying worse versions of something they already have and seen then chances are they'll buy and watch an improved Champa story.

And keep in mind that as of now Super is exclusive to Japan so internationally it'll be a new product.
That's different. Super is just on TV. This would involve you leaving your house, spending $10-$15 on a movie ticket watching something you've already seen. Nobody would do that. Watching it just cuz it's on TV is an entirely different story, though.

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