900 Minutes of Uncut Action, DBZ Season 1 Arrives

Post by **VegettoEX** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 7:44 am

If you're dead-set on doing a pointless online petition (sorry, reality of the matter), please take it outside this thread. Thank you.

JAPPO · Post by **JAPPO** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 11:21 am

VegettoEX wrote:If you're dead-set on doing a pointless online petition (sorry, reality of the matter), please take it outside this thread. Thank you.

I actually agree

Daizensushi-x · Post by **Daizensushi-x** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 12:13 pm

Umm...No one is forcing you to buy these new DVDs. I don't know, I find it pretty cheap to get 40 episodes for 30-50 dollars.

If you don't want to see the widescreen version, just don't get it. Buy the Dragonboxs or something.

Pshh.

ect5150 · Post by **ect5150** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 12:27 pm

Daizensushi-x wrote:Umm...No one is forcing you to buy these new DVDs. I don't know, I find it pretty cheap to get 40 episodes for 30-50 dollars.

If you don't want to see the widescreen version, just don't get it. Buy the Dragonboxs or something.

Pshh.

While I agree with the petition and would sign it, no amount of signatures would dissuade FUNI when the Z-Store posts the quantity they have available for pre-order and it goes down every day (even though its already out for some).

The only way to get it thru to their heads is to NOT buy it. But, the reality of it was posted above. The price point is too good for episodes that were never released at all in the States (at least, not he uncut versions). Personally, I'll get the first 2 sets (and maybe the third) and that will be it. I want them for the good subtitles, but afterwards there is nothing they can offer me I want. My money will go toward the DB/DBZ singles (and probably the GT singles someday).

If they ever decided to redo it, it would be after the third boxset... at least, I'll predict that is when they see the sales fall off. But at that point, I'll have gotten into the DragonBox singles and I'll just rip them to my harddrive and rip the subtitles from Funi discs to watch them all on my PC like how we REALLY want them.

Casual Matt · Post by **Casual Matt** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 12:57 pm

Daizensushi-x wrote:Umm...No one is forcing you to buy these new DVDs. I don't know, I find it pretty cheap to get 40 episodes for 30-50 dollars.

If you don't want to see the widescreen version, just don't get it. Buy the Dragonboxs or something.

Pshh.

Once again, I think the "if you don't like it, don't buy it" opinion would be fine if not for the fact that a hunk of episodes are not available in North America otherwise.

As I said, if they finished the Ultimate Uncuts, it wouldn't be a problem. People could get the episodes in the original fullscreen or widescreen remastered. Now there's not much of a choice.

Of course, if I could get the DragonBoxes, I would. Unfortunately, that's clearly not an option for me and many others.

Kodoshin · Post by **Kodoshin** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 2:35 pm

Honestly, I wouldn't be shocked if they did end up putting out a 4:3 release as well someday. Only reason I say that is they have showed a willingness to milk the property to the absolute limit, so why not another release?

John · Post by **John** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 5:20 pm

My thing should be delivered soon. I'm pretty freaking angry about the widescreen issue. I'd actually look forward to this set more if they had their old, grainy video as an alternate video angle.

BrollysKin · Post by **BrollysKin** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 5:52 pm

VegettoEX wrote:If you're dead-set on doing a pointless online petition (sorry, reality of the matter), please take it outside this thread. Thank you.

So then in your opinion, what should be done?

Casual Matt · Post by **Casual Matt** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 5:53 pm

BrollysKin wrote:
VegettoEX wrote:If you're dead-set on doing a pointless online petition (sorry, reality of the matter), please take it outside this thread. Thank you.
So then in your opinion, what should be done?

What can be done?

MajinVejitaXV · Post by **MajinVejitaXV** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 5:58 pm

BrollysKin wrote:
VegettoEX wrote:If you're dead-set on doing a pointless online petition (sorry, reality of the matter), please take it outside this thread. Thank you.
So then in your opinion, what should be done?

Working with such issues in the past, I can tell you that online petitions do nothing. Tangible products are much more valuable than intangible products, and multiple tangible products are much more valuable than single tangible products.

Short story? Call. Write. Fax. Email.

-Corey

Phred · Post by **Phred** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:11 pm

Interesting what they did there to make the green sky blue, but how does it look down at the horizon when the sky starts turning red?

BlueSunrise · Post by **BlueSunrise** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:38 pm

Seriously. Take a look at your arguments:

Widescreen Ruins the Show

I, myself, was a big skeptic and considered not purchasing the set. Now that I've seen episodes in motion, it's not as huge as a problem as it has been made out to be. At first it bothered me because I was specifically looking for shots that would look bad cropped, but you completely forget about it after a while. Sure I'd prefer a full screen option, but if this is the format we're given it in, I'm still happy.

Colors are Way Off

Regardless of how "off" the colors are, 99% of those purchasing this set (myself included) don't notice. What I *do* notice is that everything appears brighter and more distinct. The old episodes as I knew them before have really come to life. Lines are sharper. It's really a step up. Dragon Box? Again, 99% of those purchasing it don't even know what the Dragon Box is.

Packaging Sucks

It's really not that bad in person, and having two disks stacked on top of each other per page is a practice that MANY TV shows use in their releases. Seriously, if you find time to bi**h about this, then should we really be worried?

Now let's talk about what makes this set work:

- Price: Online you can find it between $20 and $50, I ordered mine from the Z Store for $34.99. This is leagues cheaper that what we're used to.
- All-inclusive set: All 39 episodes of Season One in one box without having to have nearly 10 DVD cases on your shelf? Count me in!
- Quality of the film and audio: videophiles and naysayers may not like it, but it's the best it's been in any FUNI release.
- 3 audio tracks. Everyone who hates the DUB music have been silenced.
- Consistency of releases. Eventually we'll have all 291 episodes in these sets. It'll all be uncut, the dialogue is re-recorded, and we have the same voice actors the whole way through (Chris Sabat does Vegeta, for example, instead of the Ocean actor in the Vegeta Saga). While I prefer the Ocean Dub group in many ways, at least we'll have one set of VAs the whole way through.

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:46 pm

I still want to know how that Tenshinhan closeup (the "nose shot") from episode 12 looks in motion!

SonGokuGT · Post by **SonGokuGT** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:46 pm

As much as I think online petitions are pointless, I signed the new one as well... I wouldn't put it past FUNi to release a fullscreen version dow the road, since they obviously like milking money from fans (Fullmetal Alchemist movie", anyone?).

I see them release 3/4 of the series, and having sold tons of sets since most people decided to give in and settle for the widescreen version and then releasing it fullscreen. Just to screw us over, like they did with the Ultimate Uncuts.

Post by **VegettoEX** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:52 pm

BlueSunrise wrote:Eventually we'll have all 291 episodes in these sets.

The same way the whole series came out consistently on VHS the first time?

Or the same way the whole series came out consistently on DVD the first time?

Or the same way the Ultimate Uncut Edition came out consistently on DVD to finish it off?

FUNimation's promises, ne... overall business plan... mean absolutely nothing to an American DBZ fan. Nothing against what your pros are... but just sayin'.

JAPPO · Post by **JAPPO** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 7:02 pm

BlueSunrise wrote:Seriously. Take a look at your arguments:

Widescreen Ruins the Show

I, myself, was a big skeptic and considered not purchasing the set. Now that I've seen episodes in motion, it's not as huge as a problem as it has been made out to be. At first it bothered me because I was specifically looking for shots that would look bad cropped, but you completely forget about it after a while. Sure I'd prefer a full screen option, but if this is the format we're given it in, I'm still happy.

Colors are Way Off

Regardless of how "off" the colors are, 99% of those purchasing this set (myself included) don't notice. What I *do* notice is that everything appears brighter and more distinct. The old episodes as I knew them before have really come to life. Lines are sharper. It's really a step up. Dragon Box? Again, 99% of those purchasing it don't even know what the Dragon Box is.

Packaging Sucks

It's really not that bad in person, and having two disks stacked on top of each other per page is a practice that MANY TV shows use in their releases. Seriously, if you find time to bi**h about this, then should we really be worried?

Now let's talk about what makes this set work:

- Price: Online you can find it between $20 and $50, I ordered mine from the Z Store for $34.99. This is leagues cheaper that what we're used to.
- All-inclusive set: All 39 episodes of Season One in one box without having to have nearly 10 DVD cases on your shelf? Count me in!
- Quality of the film and audio: videophiles and naysayers may not like it, but it's the best it's been in any FUNI release.
- 3 audio tracks. Everyone who hates the DUB music have been silenced.
- Consistency of releases. Eventually we'll have all 291 episodes in these sets. It'll all be uncut, the dialogue is re-recorded, and we have the same voice actors the whole way through (Chris Sabat does Vegeta, for example, instead of the Ocean actor in the Vegeta Saga). While I prefer the Ocean Dub group in many ways, at least we'll have one set of VAs the whole way through.

You've managed to make a post that I myself was too lazy to write. Thank you.

How much was the saiyan saga before? 99.99? something like that.

SonGokuGT · Post by **SonGokuGT** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 7:10 pm

I got mine for about $120... And that was the original censored ones... Good point...

Slickmasterfunk · Post by **Slickmasterfunk** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 7:14 pm

Kendamu wrote:I still want to know how that Tenshinhan closeup (the "nose shot") from episode 12 looks in motion!

In motion it's pretty quick, so it's not too bad.

Brad Redfield · Post by **Brad Redfield** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 7:15 pm

Hey guys, I'll be getting the set in an hour or two. I'll post a clip of the Goku VS Vegeta fight on a YouTube account later tonight, "new" dub and all. Keep in mind I'm not that great at video compression.

Mr.Piccolo · Post by **Mr.Piccolo** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 7:18 pm

On the behalf of everybody waiting patiently and those who asked every twelve seconds

, we're looking forward to some clips good sir.
-Rick