Cell a Solar System Buster ?

[Gorou]

You others are really using a physical and scientific approach with Dragon Ball?

For me it is enough know that Cell is monstrously more stronger than Vegeta (sayan arc) to believe his statement. No need to calculate the binding energy of the Sun.

[Hellspawn28]

People use physical and scientific approach for Marvel, DC and Image comic book superheroes. Why not DB?

[Gorou]

People use physical and scientific approach for Marvel, DC and Image comic book superheroes. Why not DB?

For me are stupid even the "scientific" discussions related to Marvel or DC. With Dragon Ball it is even worse, because it takes into account the physical laws still less than Western comics
Remember that Goku, in the first part of the manga, brings a rabbit on the moon with his magic stick without problems.

[Kamiccolo9]

People use physical and scientific approach for Marvel, DC and Image comic book superheroes. Why not DB?

Marvel and DC have decades of accumulated in-universe pseudo-science that allows for this kind of thing, to an extent, anyway. Dragon Ball, especially with its roots as a gag comic, does not. No idea about Image.

[TheMerchant30]

Yes Cell can destroy the Solar System. Frieza destroyed Planet Vegeta which had a gravity of 10 x that of earth with his death ball. A Fan calcuation put that feat at 2.8977e+37 Joules of energy because of how destructive it was, to blow up Jupiter requires 2.016688e+36. That means Frieza can blow up Jupiter roughly 14 times over. Assuming Power levels scale linearly, the difference between his 100% form and his first form would be 226.41509434. That would mean 100% Frieza can make a Death Ball that packs 6.56083019e+39 Joules of energy, which is roughly 1/3rd of the energy to take out the smallest star found, meaning anyone in the Android saga should be small star at the very least. SSJ Namek saga Goku would be able to dish out 8.2010377e+39 Joules of energy in a KHH. Now for Super Cell, let's say the difference between Super Cell and SSJ Namek Saga Goku is as big as SSJ Namek saga Goku and Roshi's power level of 139. So Super Cell would be 1079136.69065 x stronger than SSJ Namek saga Goku. Apply that to how much energy Goku can dish out and that would come out to 8.8500407e+45 joules of energy. A Supernova explosion releases 1E+45 joules of energy. That means Super Cell's KHH would yield 8.8500407 x more energy than a Supernova! Fan calculations have put the energy needed to destroy a solar system completely at 5.709 x more energy than a Supernova, plus we also see Cell charge the KHH further during the beam struggle with Gohan. Yes, Super Cell being that many times larger than SSJ Goku might be far fetched, but its not totally unbelievable.

[Lord Beerus]

Whenever I see a thread like this, this will always been my default response:

If Toriyama writes for Cell to believe he is strong enough to destroy the Solar System in one blast, he can damn well do it. There have been crazier feats thrown around in Dragon Ball which have later turned out to be true. But Toriyama doesn't really focus so much on attention to detail, so there's every chance that Cell statement was hyperbole for the sole purpose of scaring the shit out of the cast.

[Speedster]

Ok here is the mathematical proof. We know that 50% Freeza could tank a Genki Damma of over 50metres diameter. The one against Vegeta on Earth had only 0.5m diameter. Thus 50% Freeza was at least 100^3=1 million times higher than Vegeta who even weakened after his battle with KKx4 Goku and creating the artificial moon was still much stronger than Roshi or Piccolo who were moon busters. The minimum energy to destroy the moon is 2*10^29J so Vegeta was at least at 10^30J. So the minimum energy that 50% Freeza can tank is 10^36Joules.

Now between Freeza and Super Perfect Cell there are at least 15 distinct tiers of strength with each next tier capable of one shotting the previous. Even if we consider that each tier is only e=2.71x times stronger than the previous (e by the way is the natural exponent - remember they were all supposedly exponentially stronger than one another) then it is a factor of e^15=3.27*10^6. So we have a total of 3.27*10^42Joules. To destroy the sun you need a minimum of 2.289*10^41 Joules. The sun is 99.86% of the solar system. So Super Prefect Cell could perfectly bust the Solar system.

[flashback0180]

There is no reason for him to lie , he already had won the match at that point .

[Ash57]

It is stated. It is there. Why you guys keep saying that characters are lying, even though TORIYAmA wrote the quote and never contradicted it?

1 - Many guidebooks said that Cell COULD destroy a solar system.
2 - Kid Buu didn't destroy the Earth with an attack that was at least 5x stronger than SPC. This can be explained with 2 words: plot shield.
3 - Cell stated it, and he had no reason to lie whatsoever!

^^^There ya go.

[Tectorman]

2 - Kid Buu didn't destroy the Earth with an attack that was at least 5x stronger than SPC. This can be explained with 2 words: plot shield.

I see it as a question of thoroughness. Sure, Super Perfect Cell could wreck the entire solar system and reduce it all to Volkswagon-sized pieces of rubble. But if Kid Buu's explosion of merely the Earth nevertheless reduces it all to its component quarks, then it is still the more impressive feat.

Put another way, what's more impressive: splitting a dozen apples or splitting an atom?

[MisterGuyMan]

DB fighters can concentrate their power. So just because Buu only destroys a planet doesn't mean he can't destroy more. If we only assume that a fighter's offensive power is capped by their best explosion then Roshi is stronger than Goku. If you want more examples then Beers finger tapped an explosion that destroyed half a planet without destroying the other half. Weakened Final Form Frieza destroyed a planet but Golden Frieza never did.