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Post by VegettoEX » Fri Jan 22, 2016 11:58 am

DainIronfoot wrote:At the end of chapter 7, when Vegeta says "FREEZA!?" Frost gives him and Goku that fierce look. That tells me that I think maybe Freeza did exist in Uni 6 and was a bad guy but Frost defeated him and despised him for being evil.
It could be that much like Saiyan names "sounding" like they belong to the appropriate race, the same thing may be for "Freeza" when Frost hears it. Kinda like how you can tell a name is French even if you're not French. I guess.
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Post by omaro34 » Sat Jan 23, 2016 9:11 pm

LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:
omaro34 wrote:As much as there are many DBZ related Youtube channels that are just in it for the views so they post misleading titles and crazy thumbnails, there are channels out there that do post legit material. There are those that do their homework, support Kazeenshuu, report the truth, and are habitually against clickbait channels. But unfortunately, the bad outweigh the good in the Youtube Dragonball world.

Shoutout to Geekdom 101, Qaaman's Land, Blackenfist, and a few others. Those are the ones that put the effort in to try and present interesting DBZ related topics with a thorough analysis.

I wouldn't use Geekdom. He's very biased and spreads lies and hate sadly. Even if I don't call him a clickbaiter, which he got upset for last time.....he's not one to listen to. Most youtubers kind of have the same mentality of "if you like gt or the dub you're not a true fan and should die!" So I'd avoid youtubers all together to avoid being misinformed and manipulated. It's a sees pool in the comments on all dbz videos sadly.

And the likes of double4anime is just as bad as geekodm almost. A lot of clickbaiting, even off Dragonball. Blackenfist doesn't clickbait or spread hate or lies, I don't agree with some of his videos but at least he's not being fake. Sad thing is most of the big dbz youtubers are RUINING the fanbase, and most are not even fans and just wanna manipulate fans for views and money. Disgusting.
I didn't know that. I recently began watching their videos, but had no idea. Thanks for the enlightenment. Most people have a hidden agendas, I guess.
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Post by Soppa Saia People » Sat Jan 23, 2016 11:24 pm

LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:Bullshit rant based on nothing
Alright so lemma get this straight, people with less then 200k sub's are running the fanbase of a series with millions and millions fan, yeah okay but I totally believe you cause you're an expert who totalllllllllyyyyy knows what he is talking about.
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Post by Geekdom101 » Sat Mar 05, 2016 8:47 am

Those misleading thumbnails always bring my piss to a boil
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Post by Geekdom101 » Sat Mar 05, 2016 8:51 am

omaro34 wrote:
LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:
omaro34 wrote:As much as there are many DBZ related Youtube channels that are just in it for the views so they post misleading titles and crazy thumbnails, there are channels out there that do post legit material. There are those that do their homework, support Kazeenshuu, report the truth, and are habitually against clickbait channels. But unfortunately, the bad outweigh the good in the Youtube Dragonball world.

Shoutout to Geekdom 101, Qaaman's Land, Blackenfist, and a few others. Those are the ones that put the effort in to try and present interesting DBZ related topics with a thorough analysis.

I wouldn't use Geekdom. He's very biased and spreads lies and hate sadly. Even if I don't call him a clickbaiter, which he got upset for last time.....he's not one to listen to. Most youtubers kind of have the same mentality of "if you like gt or the dub you're not a true fan and should die!" So I'd avoid youtubers all together to avoid being misinformed and manipulated. It's a sees pool in the comments on all dbz videos sadly.

And the likes of double4anime is just as bad as geekodm almost. A lot of clickbaiting, even off Dragonball. Blackenfist doesn't clickbait or spread hate or lies, I don't agree with some of his videos but at least he's not being fake. Sad thing is most of the big dbz youtubers are RUINING the fanbase, and most are not even fans and just wanna manipulate fans for views and money. Disgusting.
I didn't know that. I recently began watching their videos, but had no idea. Thanks for the enlightenment. Most people have a hidden agendas, I guess.
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Post by Ajay » Sat Mar 05, 2016 12:29 pm

Nobody is this misinformed, surely?!

Geekdom goes out of his way to almost infuriating levels to ensure people know what they're talking about. This is from the person who not even a week ago had the balls to correct Christopher Sabat over the reasons for Vegeta's look changing in the series. I mean, c'mon. In the same interview he goes out of his way to acknowledge the dub's flaws, but also agree with Sabat in that it has its own charm for some people, and that's absolutely fine. Does that really sound like someone who's adamant about shitting on dub fans. Really?

I'm not a subscriber, I don't even really watch Dragon Ball YouTube videos since they're 99% garbage, but I know this guy has his heart in the right place when it comes to informing a fanbase. Don't mistake a wish to educate with belittlement and condescension.
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Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Mar 05, 2016 12:32 pm

Geekdom101 wrote:Those misleading thumbnails always bring my piss to a boil
Same here. But this sort of shit will continue to run rampant for years to come as long as YouTubers can make a profit off if it. But I trust you, Geekdom101. You know your facts. :)

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Post by IM21 » Sat Mar 05, 2016 12:47 pm

Geekdom is for sure one of the best DB youtubers, if not the best. Some of the others are just meh.

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Post by Wezenheim » Sat Mar 05, 2016 12:47 pm

Yeah, I've personally never heard Geekdom spread misinformation (hell he hates the very concept), and I've never really heard him criticize dub fans for simply liking the dub.

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Post by omaro34 » Sat Mar 05, 2016 5:25 pm

Maybe I shouldn't have shouted out Geekdom and other good DBZ Youtubers. I did it in a positive way saying they post real, factual, interesting topics.

I really regret doing that now because it caused this.
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Post by MCDaveG » Sat Mar 05, 2016 6:01 pm

Hahaha, well, the name of this topic is as clickbait as hell, U6SPOILERS!!!
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Post by Geekdom101 » Sat Mar 05, 2016 7:22 pm

Ajay wrote:Nobody is this misinformed, surely?!

Geekdom goes out of his way to almost infuriating levels to ensure people know what they're talking about. This is from the person who not even a week ago had the balls to correct Christopher Sabat over the reasons for Vegeta's look changing in the series. I mean, c'mon. In the same interview he goes out of his way to acknowledge the dub's flaws, but also agree with Sabat in that it has its own charm for some people, and that's absolutely fine. Does that really sound like someone who's adamant about shitting on dub fans. Really?

I'm not a subscriber, I don't even really watch Dragon Ball YouTube videos since they're 99% garbage, but I know this guy has his heart in the right place when it comes to informing a fanbase. Don't mistake a wish to educate with belittlement and condescension.
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Post by Geekdom101 » Sat Mar 05, 2016 7:30 pm

omaro34 wrote:Maybe I shouldn't have shouted out Geekdom and other good DBZ Youtubers. I did it in a positive way saying they post real, factual, interesting topics.

I really regret doing that now because it caused this.
That guy LSSJ or whatever has had it in for me since November. He called me a clickbaiter and a liar way back in November for literally no reason. I have no clue who he is nor is there any video on my channel where I have clickbaited. I do theories. I do discussions. I do informational. I do Dokkan. I take a LOT of pride in NOT being like that and in teaching guys like Unreal to NOT be like that and he is no longer like that. I'm not perfect. I've yelled at people. I've lost my temper. That's me. I'm working on it. I really am. But one thing I am not is a liar. Again, I don't know what this guy's beef is, but he's in the past ranted, then later apologized on a Youtube comment (which he deleted cowardly), and now is at it again and I have no idea why.
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Post by Ssgvegito30 » Sat Mar 05, 2016 7:39 pm

Geekdom101 wrote:
omaro34 wrote:Maybe I shouldn't have shouted out Geekdom and other good DBZ Youtubers. I did it in a positive way saying they post real, factual, interesting topics.

I really regret doing that now because it caused this.
That guy LSSJ or whatever has had it in for me since November. He called me a clickbaiter and a liar way back in November for literally no reason. I have no clue who he is nor is there any video on my channel where I have clickbaited. I do theories. I do discussions. I do informational. I do Dokkan. I take a LOT of pride in NOT being like that and in teaching guys like Unreal to NOT be like that and he is no longer like that. I'm not perfect. I've yelled at people. I've lost my temper. That's me. I'm working on it. I really am. But one thing I am not is a liar. Again, I don't know what this guy's beef is, but he's in the past ranted, then later apologized on a Youtube comment (which he deleted cowardly), and now is at it again and I have no idea why.
He's just a kid who wants attention, you keep doing what you do best, for me your one of the best you tubers out there don't keep attention to whiny kids like lssj....
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Post by SingleFringe&Sparks » Sun Mar 06, 2016 6:34 pm

Wezenheim wrote:Some of those aren't necessarily "bad" clickbait, such as the "U6 Frost Theory" video, since that one tells you that it's a speculation video. It doesn't have a stupid or misleading title, which is what I usually shake my head at. The picture of Frost in the thumbnail is obviously fake and is probably trying to draw in viewers, but I wouldn't call that bad since again you know the intention of the video from the title.
Making an affirmative statement as the title of a video, just to then later tell the audience that your content is just a theory is still click bait. You get someone to think something is confirmed just to watch the video. Then the video ends up being a baseless hypothesis based on the poster's own headcanon. Its always how false rumors are spread because of how the fanbase works, so long as you get them to think something makes sense to them - even if vaguely, people will spread it anyway. Its one thing to make it clear that your video is just your thoughts in order to give the audience the choice if they want to hear your commentary, but its another thing to manipulate people with abstract video implications or make up lies, just to get the view. If you're going to make a theory asking a question for a discussion, then people need to show that its for discussion - not wait until the person clicks to tell them that.
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Post by Wezenheim » Sun Mar 06, 2016 6:58 pm

SingleFringe&Sparks wrote:
Wezenheim wrote:Some of those aren't necessarily "bad" clickbait, such as the "U6 Frost Theory" video, since that one tells you that it's a speculation video. It doesn't have a stupid or misleading title, which is what I usually shake my head at. The picture of Frost in the thumbnail is obviously fake and is probably trying to draw in viewers, but I wouldn't call that bad since again you know the intention of the video from the title.
Making an affirmative statement as the title of a video, just to then later tell the audience that your content is just a theory is still click bait. You get someone to think something is confirmed just to watch the video. Then the video ends up being a baseless hypothesis based on the poster's own headcanon. Its always how false rumors are spread because of how the fanbase works, so long as you get them to think something makes sense to them - even if vaguely, people will spread it anyway. Its one thing to make it clear that your video is just your thoughts in order to give the audience the choice if they want to hear your commentary, but its another thing to manipulate people with abstract video implications or make up lies, just to get the view. If you're going to make a theory asking a question for a discussion, then people need to show that its for discussion - not wait until the person clicks to tell them that.
I could be reading your post wrong but I don't see what you are getting at. I said the same thing in my original post, more or less, unless I worded something wrong.

I myself criticized the video titles with affirmative statements, like the "God of Destruction Wainu" or whatever I remembered from a while ago. Those are very misleading and stupid. I'm just saying that something like "U6 Frost Theory" is an alright title for a speculation/theory video since well, that's what it is. I agree with your post, and that's confusing since you seem to be echoing my own thoughts on the matter.

I guess in my original post I didn't quite hammer home the point to the extent that you did about misinformation and whatnot. My thoughts about thumbnails might have changed a bit though, because I can see how they would be harmful as well with a bit more thought.

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Post by Geekdom101 » Mon Mar 07, 2016 7:18 am

Wezenheim wrote:
SingleFringe&Sparks wrote:
Wezenheim wrote:Some of those aren't necessarily "bad" clickbait, such as the "U6 Frost Theory" video, since that one tells you that it's a speculation video. It doesn't have a stupid or misleading title, which is what I usually shake my head at. The picture of Frost in the thumbnail is obviously fake and is probably trying to draw in viewers, but I wouldn't call that bad since again you know the intention of the video from the title.
Making an affirmative statement as the title of a video, just to then later tell the audience that your content is just a theory is still click bait. You get someone to think something is confirmed just to watch the video. Then the video ends up being a baseless hypothesis based on the poster's own headcanon. Its always how false rumors are spread because of how the fanbase works, so long as you get them to think something makes sense to them - even if vaguely, people will spread it anyway. Its one thing to make it clear that your video is just your thoughts in order to give the audience the choice if they want to hear your commentary, but its another thing to manipulate people with abstract video implications or make up lies, just to get the view. If you're going to make a theory asking a question for a discussion, then people need to show that its for discussion - not wait until the person clicks to tell them that.
I could be reading your post wrong but I don't see what you are getting at. I said the same thing in my original post, more or less, unless I worded something wrong.

I myself criticized the video titles with affirmative statements, like the "God of Destruction Wainu" or whatever I remembered from a while ago. Those are very misleading and stupid. I'm just saying that something like "U6 Frost Theory" is an alright title for a speculation/theory video since well, that's what it is. I agree with your post, and that's confusing since you seem to be echoing my own thoughts on the matter.

I guess in my original post I didn't quite hammer home the point to the extent that you did about misinformation and whatnot. My thoughts about thumbnails might have changed a bit though, because I can see how they would be harmful as well with a bit more thought.
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