"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Retan]

Episode #48? Huh what, did I miss something?

[TheDevilsCorpse]

He's probably just assuming the series is going to end after the upcoming cour.

Though, I'm not at all convinced that Toei, as bad as Super's quality may be at times, is willing to relinquish the upward financial spiral they've started.

[JulieYBM]

He's probably just assuming the series is going to end after the upcoming cour.

Though, I'm not at all convinced that Toei, as bad as Super's quality may be at times, is willing to relinquish the upward financial spiral they've started.

I did outright say I was simply making an assumption. Even then, #48 doesn't have to be the final episode to be an important episode. It'd probably be a big climax for the series at the very least.

[TekTheNinja]

You know what I've noticed? Nobody complains when things go "according to plan." Even if the plan is horrifying! If, tomorrow, I tell the community that, like, Vegeta gets one shotted by Frost, or Goku loses to Hit, nobody panics, because it's all "part of the plan". But when I say that one little weak Namakian will forfeit his match, well then everyone loses their minds!

Because Goku and Vegeta have gotten plenty of time to shine and will definitely get plenty more times to shine in the episodes to come. You can't say the same about Piccolo. For all we know this could be the last time he's even remotely relevant in the series. They should have made his moment badass. Not humiliating.

It's been the Goku and Vegeta show for years.

When was the last time Piccolo beat anybody? Was it Android 20? The battle with Frost has been Piccolo's biggest fight since he fought Android 17.

Besides Gohan when he beat Cell it's always really been either Goku or Vegeta getting the worthwhile wins.

Resurrection F was at least good for giving people like Piccolo, Tien, Krillin and Roshi there first notable action scene in a long time.

Past mistakes do not make up for current ones. That should be OBVIOUS, dude.

[Chuquita]

With how fast Super's plot's been moving I wouldn't be surprised if it's only 48 episodes.

If it dragged its feet like Z and One Piece, I'd be more likely to think they were planning to continue unto perpetuity, but instead it's so fast. They barely touched on the training for the tournament and blew through three battles over two episodes.

I think they'll end it around the time a third movie is announced.

[Araki]

If it dragged its feet like Z and One Piece, I'd be more likely to think they were planning to continue unto perpetuity, but instead it's so fast. They barely touched on the training for the tournament and blew through three battles over two episodes.

That's not a good comparison to make any assumption. Z and One Piece have slow pace because the anime was/is always catching up to the manga, so they have to drag it out.

The only fight that maybe could've have used more time was Goku vs Frost. vs Botamo and Piccolo vs Frost really shouldn't last longer IMO.

[sangofe]

Why would super end with 48 episodes?! because of the production situation, or did toriyama lose motivation?

[Sodhi]

Why would super end with 48 episodes?! because of the production situation, or did toriyama lose motivation?

Just a prediction, nothing about that if official.

[sangofe]

Why would super end with 48 episodes?! because of the production situation, or did toriyama lose motivation?

Just a prediction, nothing about that if official.

What is it based on?

[Sodhi]

What is it based on?

Probably the pacing.

[Chuquita]

If it dragged its feet like Z and One Piece, I'd be more likely to think they were planning to continue unto perpetuity, but instead it's so fast. They barely touched on the training for the tournament and blew through three battles over two episodes.

That's not a good comparison to make any assumption. Z and One Piece have slow pace because the anime was/is always catching up to the manga, so they have to drag it out.

The only fight that maybe could've have used more time was Goku vs Frost. vs Botamo and Piccolo vs Frost really shouldn't last longer IMO.

If you don't want to compare to them, then compared to Toei's yearly Precure series, Super is moving at a pace similar to that. Usually by the 30's Precure's gone through two arcs with at least one major sub-boss battle.

[sangofe]

What is it based on?

Probably the pacing.

But does anyone know about how much story toriyama has planned? I would be terribly sad if it ends so soon, unless it leads way for a new, more planned series...

[Xeztin]

I think its the opposite, I think they are moving the show fast because there is no catching up or filler and also because they have tons of arcs planned. The whole point of slow pacing a show is to stay behind the manga and drag it out to make more money. They don't have that here, there is no filler or manga to stay behind so they aren't holding it back. If they have plenty of arcs planned, it makes even more sense to me to rush through it since there are plenty ahead. I don't think they'd resurrect the franchise after 18 years on its 30th anniversary, with two retelling arcs and ending it there. They'd be leaving gold behind but I could be completely wrong. Though, the shows for toy sales and the more they rush it the faster they can sell new toys of new characters from every new arc.

What is it based on?

Probably the pacing.

But does anyone know about how much story toriyama has planned? I would be terribly sad if it ends so soon, unless it leads way for a new, more planned series...

Only what we've seen so far till the end of the Champa arc was announced to be done by Toriyama. I think after that he is going to hand it over to Toei because of the rumor of him saying he gave Toei 10 years worth of material. If it was true he probably was talking about the 12 universes and that Toei can do anything in them.

[Chuquita]

I hope you're right. I want it to be true that we actually are getting a ton of arcs, I just don't have as much faith in Shueisha after how rushed production on Super is, and how they still haven't worked out any international streaming or license sales overseas.

[SansrivaaL]

I just hope this ends as soon as possible, I'm good with just the movies because the animation would be 200x better.

[sintzu]

I think after that he is going to hand it over to Toei because of the rumor of him saying he gave Toei 10 years worth of material.

That's not a rumor, it's a misunderstood quote from Geekdom101 or someone else on Youtube.

What he or whoever said was that THEY THINK the current plot points have opened the door for 10+ years worth of stories.

As of now this is the only thing Toriyama has said about Super :

Spoiler:

“Dragon Ball Super” is a complete continuation of the Majin Boo story arc. It’s got a bit of post-battle aftermath, continues with the “Battle of Gods” arc where the God of Destruction Beerus appears and the “Revival of ‘F'” arc where Freeza comes back to life, and then, I’ve written a strange new story where they finally depart from this universe. They’re fighting against their neighbors, Universe 6! They’ll yell at me if I give away too many spoilers, so I’ll keep the rest a secret, but they’re chasing after giant Super Dragon Balls; I think things will unfold in a bright and simple way, that will be really fun and exciting!

Since it’s another universe, loads of new characters will turn up. I’ll do my best to draw the tons of character designs necessary, so I’m looking forward to this too.

You know, it suddenly occurs to me that somewhere along the line the Dragon Ball anime has become quite a huge story. Since I’m the guy who drew the thing, it’s a bit weird for me to say this, but when I first started out I never dreamed it would have a universe as a setting (laughs). Don’t worry though, it’s still going to be the same sort of easy-to-understand content as always. Please be sure to watch Dragon Ball Super on TV!

We'll probably get an update when it reaches the mid 40s.

[sangofe]

I just hope this ends as soon as possible, I'm good with just the movies because the animation would be 200x better.

Honestly, if the show's fun and I enjoy watching it, I don't mind if the animation's not top notch (I have found most episodes to be enjoyable, and not seeing the show for 3-4 weeks in a row really, really keeps me on the edge of my seat). Frankly, I don't. I do like characters to look like themselves, though.

And as I wrote before, it wouldn't be bad if it ended for some time to make room for a TV series that'd be properly planned with staff etc to get better animation. Because planning seems to be the problem with Super.

[LightBing]

Fourteen episodes to finish the tournament and go to Universe 6, very unlikely. The current pace is manga pace. Those who read the manga(original manga) know what I'm talking about. It indicates that what we're currently seeing is very close to Mr.Toriyama draft, with few interference's.

[Chuquita]

NewType is out. Episode titles are probably a matter of days (or hours).

[namekiansaiyan]

NewType is out. Episode titles are probably a matter of days (or hours).

The one thing I do not want them to reveal is 3 fights for Vegeta as that is too much.