"Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by Lord Beerus » Wed Mar 09, 2016 5:10 pm

Wezenheim wrote:
SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:Naoki Tate on Monaka vs. Hit ? This is going to kick ass. :crazy: :crazy:
Tate is the exact person I wanted for that fight. I think watching Monaka fight would be really fun with him at the helm. Much hype (if that really is the fight that is going to happen in that episode).
Lets hope that Tate's cut for that episode is more than 30 seconds.

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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by JulieYBM » Wed Mar 09, 2016 5:33 pm

I doubt it will be. Super is not going to get any better. Staff will continue to have no time to work on making good fights.
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by Araki » Wed Mar 09, 2016 6:09 pm

The Doc wrote:I like the animation in Episode 31 a lot, but considering Karasawa didn't work on that alone, I'm worried it may have looked good due to the support. So I'm optimistic, but semi-worried. Hope he can pull another one out of the bag.
He's likely getting the same help, assuming that is a team. Those listings always give only one animation supervisor in advance.

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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by Wezenheim » Wed Mar 09, 2016 7:20 pm

JulieYBM wrote:I doubt it will be. Super is not going to get any better. Staff will continue to have no time to work on making good fights.
Sad but true. I'm glad the staff for these next few episodes got a pretty good 6-7 week break at least. Probably won't help much, but it's something I suppose.

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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by Hit!! » Wed Mar 09, 2016 8:18 pm

SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:Naoki Tate on Monaka vs. Hit ? This is going to kick ass. :crazy: :crazy:
Those limbs are going to be flying around all over the day :lol:

But seriously, I'm excited for this fight!!

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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by The Doc » Wed Mar 09, 2016 9:48 pm

Araki wrote:
The Doc wrote:I like the animation in Episode 31 a lot, but considering Karasawa didn't work on that alone, I'm worried it may have looked good due to the support. So I'm optimistic, but semi-worried. Hope he can pull another one out of the bag.
He's likely getting the same help, assuming that is a team. Those listings always give only one animation supervisor in advance.
Yeah, if it's literally the same team, then I'm 100% for them being regulars. That Jaco episode really didn't look too shabby at all.

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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by JulieYBM » Wed Mar 09, 2016 10:59 pm

I don't know if Caneda will be sticking around, although if anyone is going to be involved with TAP I'd hope it's one of their best like Caneda. My real concern here is that Tate has to help out the others instead of focusing entirely on his episodes.
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by Sodhi » Thu Mar 10, 2016 1:52 am

Psykomatik wrote:Episode 35:
Scenario: King Ryū
Director: Takeshita Ryuchi
Storyboard: Yukio Kaizawa
Animation Supervisor: Osamu Ishikawa

Episode 36:
Scenario: Makoto Koyama
Director: Karasawa Kazuya
Storyboard: Hiroyuki Kakudo
Animation Supervisor: Masahiro Shimanuki

Episode 37:
Scenario: Yoshitaka Toshio
Director: Hideki Hiroshima
Storyboard: Yukio Kaizawa
Animation Supervisor: Yuichi Karasawa

Episode 38:
Scenario: Yoshitaka Toshio
Director / Storyboard : Kōhei Hatano
Animation Supervisor : Naoki Tate
I just realized Animation Supervisors are going in order of episodes #29-32.

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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by ArchedThunder » Thu Mar 10, 2016 10:47 am

Psykomatik wrote:Episode 35:
Scenario: King Ryū
Director: Takeshita Ryuchi
Storyboard: Yukio Kaizawa
Animation Supervisor: Osamu Ishikawa

Episode 36:
Scenario: Makoto Koyama
Director: Karasawa Kazuya
Storyboard: Hiroyuki Kakudo
Animation Supervisor: Masahiro Shimanuki

Episode 37:
Scenario: Yoshitaka Toshio
Director: Hideki Hiroshima
Storyboard: Yukio Kaizawa
Animation Supervisor: Yuichi Karasawa

Episode 38:
Scenario: Yoshitaka Toshio
Director / Storyboard : Kōhei Hatano
Animation Supervisor : Naoki Tate
Ishikawa can do some good work, the NEP looks pretty good, hopefully they use the week off to actually work on Super. I'm a little worried about Shimanuki, his earlier work in the series was fine but his last two episodes weren't very good looking, if we're lucky he was working on this episode along side his last one, that would also explain why that episode looked so weird despite being a recap episode. I'm ecstatic to see Karasawa come back, I really hope he becomes a regular. As for Tate
JulieYBM wrote: It's also interesting to see that Tate Naoki's next episode is seven weeks after his last. I hope that means he can turn in a good episode, especially if he is assigned good animators.
Hopefully they use the week off to continue to work on the series to help with the schedule, I was hoping for somewhere in between 8-10 weeks for the next Tate episode, but 7 is good. Tate also only did some of episode 32, right? If we're really lucky maybe he was working on 38 at around the same time and that's why he only did a bit on 32, I have no idea how likely that is though, but if that is the case we could see some really nice stuff.

I'm really curious to see if Yamamuro will be doing an episode this arc, if he is I bet it's one of the final two episodes of the tournament.

I wonder if Kitano or Iseki will ever return. Kitano's episodes weren't half bad until 24 and I'd love to see another Iseki episode.

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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by JulieYBM » Thu Mar 10, 2016 12:18 pm

Yamamuro will probably, unfortunately, be in charge of the final episode of the fourth cour.

I wish Ootsuka Ken would stick around and work with Tate regularly. That way there would be a second good action animator working on his episodes and he wouldn't have to worry about correcting as many cuts.
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by The Doc » Thu Mar 10, 2016 12:34 pm

ArchedThunder wrote:I'm a little worried about Shimanuki, his earlier work in the series was fine but his last two episodes weren't very good looking, if we're lucky he was working on this episode along side his last one, that would also explain why that episode looked so weird despite being a recap episode.
Yeah, that's to take into account, as well as the fact that it's understandable to consider a recap episode not being a super important one to care for from the production side. I think that one can easily be dismissed, the short Gohan and Piccolo training scene looked great, and that kept me confident that Shimanuki can still animate action when the occasion calls for it.

Episode 25, however, was a weird one. If I'm not mistaken, I believe he worked on that one with two other animators whom he normally doesn't work with. I have to say, the first half of 25 looked pretty awesome, and it looked straight up like Shimanuki's style to me. The latter half of that episode looked really poor, but also barely any of the second half looked like Shimanuki's style to me. So I chalk up all the bad bits of that episode to the other two guys he was working with. So as long as Shimanuki is left to his own devices for 36, or at least can avoid working with the same team, I have confidence that 36 will turn out good.
ArchedThunder wrote:I'm really curious to see if Yamamuro will be doing an episode this arc, if he is I bet it's one of the final two episodes of the tournament.

I wonder if Kitano or Iseki will ever return. Kitano's episodes weren't half bad until 24 and I'd love to see another Iseki episode.
Yeah, I would a-d-o-r-e Yamamuro coming back for an episode this arc. I'm still a huge fan of what we got in the thirteenth episode. I think he deserves to come back to knock out a good tournament fight, and I don't know why he wouldn't, unless those movie rumors turn out to be true.

Kitano worked with Toma on episode 33, so technically he has worked on one since 24. I, too, was fine with, and even liked Kitano until 24, and unfortunately all of the bad bits of 33 looked so much like some of the crap we got with episode 24. Episode 33 was proof enough that he's still going through a slump, so I'd rather another extended break from Kitano.

Iseki should definitely come back for another episode soon.

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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by DragonBalllKaiHD » Thu Mar 10, 2016 1:34 pm

JulieYBM wrote:Yamamuro will probably, unfortunately, be in charge of the final episode of the fourth cour.

I wish Ootsuka Ken would stick around and work with Tate regularly. That way there would be a second good action animator working on his episodes and he wouldn't have to worry about correcting as many cuts.
He will probably ask him to help him for that episode. It's going to be Monaka versus Hit, strongest versus strongest, after all.
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by FortuneSSJ » Thu Mar 10, 2016 4:30 pm

Welp! My hope for some Shida awesomeness in this tournament is slowy fading away. :(
Hope Yamamuro does something.
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Post by Sodhi » Thu Mar 10, 2016 6:07 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote:Welp! My hope for some Shida awesomeness in this tournament is slowly fading away. :(
Hope Yamamuro does something.
Shida has been inactive recently after doing some key animation for one piece Episode #726 which aired on 17th January. He should be working on something, I hope its Super, but I have a feeling it's not.Yamamuro is probably working on the new ending as he usually solos them.

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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by Chuquita » Thu Mar 10, 2016 6:17 pm

My gut feeling is Shida's probably working on Film Gold.
He hasn't even been around on Precure lately, that's another reason I think he's on the One Piece film now.
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by Sodhi » Thu Mar 10, 2016 6:58 pm

Well at least according to otsuka's Ken's twitter we know that he is working on a episode as an animator.

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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by Doctor. » Thu Mar 10, 2016 7:18 pm

How about we get Onishi to do some more cuts for Super? What's the last thing he did?

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Post by ekrolo2 » Thu Mar 10, 2016 7:21 pm

Doctor. wrote:How about we get Onishi to do some more cuts for Super? What's the last thing he did?
I don't know if it was the last thing but I 99% sure he was involved with Golden Freeza's transformation in the opening at least.
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Post by FortuneSSJ » Thu Mar 10, 2016 7:24 pm

Chuquita wrote:My gut feeling is Shida's probably working on Film Gold.
He hasn't even been around on Precure lately, that's another reason I think he's on the One Piece film now.
I have this feeling too. Either Film Gold or the new Opening. Maybe both, which is sad.
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Post by Lord Beerus » Thu Mar 10, 2016 7:25 pm

Doctor. wrote:How about we get Onishi to do some more cuts for Super? What's the last thing he did?
He was responsible for one of, if not arguably the best, cut of the show in Episode 14. After that, his last major contribution was for the altered OP for the Resurrection F arc.

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