The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

[Eternal Super Saiyan]

Not sure if this has been asked yet but oh well.
How would the rest of the saiyan saga play out if Chiaotzu had killed Nappa when he used self-destruct?

Vegeta kills Tenshinhan first. Piccolo and Krillin would die next. Gohan would get a anger boost, but it won't be enough to save Vegeta. Goku would be in rage to see that everyone is dead. Goku would kill Vegeta without mercy and Goku would live on Earth until he dies from the heart virus.

On the upside, many villains will end up weaker. Goku doesn't learn about the Namekians; he never uses Dr. Brief's spaceship for training. Goku relies on Kaioken almost the rest of his life. It could take a while longer for him to meet up with Frieza... etc. But this would be a bad story compared to what they really did.

[Hellspawn28]

Freeza would go to Namek on his own and end up destroying it knowing that he can't get his wish. I doubt he would go to Earth and the Earth would be living peacefully until #17 and #18 arrives. Goku would be dead from the virus before he can do anything. Cell would still be made, but he would have no cells of Freeza and King Cold. I do think Beerus would have keep on destroying planets while Babidi is trying to find ways to awaken Buu and Freeza keeps on ruling the galaxy.

[SaiyajinGokuWarrior]

What-If Goku (Assuming Post FnF and End of Z) was sent back in time to Age 732 along with Chi Chi, Goten, Gohan, and the rest of the Z Fighters? (Assuming the present year was Age 784, then it includes Uub.)

I can't imagine Goku changing the Saiyan's ways, how it will end up for the timeline, the outcome of anything etc etc.

[FoolsGil]

What-If Goku (Assuming Post FnF and End of Z) was sent back in time to Age 732 along with Chi Chi, Goten, Gohan, and the rest of the Z Fighters? (Assuming the present year was Age 784, then it includes Uub.)

I can't imagine Goku changing the Saiyan's ways, how it will end up for the timeline, the outcome of anything etc etc.

I wouldn't expect Goku to lift a finger. Vegeta on the other hand will kill Freeza but do nothing else. I doubt they would live on Earth, as plenty of them have doubles, but would get into contact with Kami and Guru on Namek, with instruction that if there's problems, to contact them. I'd assume they went to live on a different planet, all the Z Fighters would move on in their lives. I would say that if no one does nothing, King Kold would lead the PTO in Freeza's place. With the Saiyans alive, evil, and with plenty of space faring tech, they would be another splinter group that would make the rest of the universe miserable. Pretty much as long as Earth, Planet Vegeta, and Namek is never attacked, no one is going to interfere, unless Uub and Pan turn out to be far more heroic than everyone else, and decide with their powers and training, they should be out protecting something and settle for the Universe, Wandering over Yandering.

Beers wakes up in 779. Goku and Vegeta would have been dead awhile. Chances are Beers would blow up Planet Vegeta, find and kill Kold, and go back to sleep.

[Hellspawn28]

What if Champa and Vados show up at Bluma's party instead of Beerus and Whis?

[DBS916]

What if Champa show up at Bluma's party instead of Beerus?

Vados would have needed a forklift in order to move Champa after he finished eating all the world's food!

[apex_pretador]

What if Yamcha was able to survive the saibaman self destruct , barely?

[Dorexx]

What if Yamcha was able to survive the saibaman self destruct , barely?

Vegeta would coup de grace him.

What if Bardock's ki blast that he fired at Freeza detonated Freeza's blast killing everything in sight including Freeza?

[Desassina]

What if Bardock's ki blast that he fired at Freeza detonated Freeza's blast killing everything in sight including Freeza?

Gohan, Krillin and Bulma would only have Vegeta to worry about in Namek.

What if DB Super events were undone by time travel and never repeated? How would they prevent RoF?

[apex_pretador]

What if, just like bardock movie, freeza killing krillin sends him back in time, to where saiyans arrive to earth?
How will the story be affected? Will he take care of nappa & vegeta, or won't? Will he kill them or let them go? Will he and others go to Namek to try to prevent freeza from getting immortal?

[Hellspawn28]

If Bardock did kill Freeza, the Earth would be wipe out quicker. The Saiyans would arrive looking for Goku and no one would be strong enough to kill them.

[omaro34]

If Vegeta's story ended when he was brutally murdered by Freeza, it would be a drastically different series.

[Hellspawn28]

Planet Vegeta would have people looking after Goku. A group of Saiyans will show up and Grandpa Gohan will probably refuse to give Goku back to them. So they end up killing everyone on Earth. Without Freeza around, the universe would still have the saiyans going around killing people. Babidi and Dabra would go to another planet to find ways to bring back Buu. Beerus and Whis would go to Planet Vegeta looking for the Super saiyan God and find nothing. Beerus gets angry at the saiyans and blows up Planet Vegeta. Champa and Vados would show up and probably won't have a tournament since the Earth is long gone in Universe 7.

[Berserker1921]

What if vegeta and Goku could access ssj blue from the saiyan saga. How much stronger would they become? Or would they be as strong as they are now currently.l?

What if fat buu actually absorbed golden frieza? Would he stay a hero or become a villain? And would he be strong enough to defeat hit?

[miguelnuva1]

Planet Vegeta would have people looking after Goku. A group of Saiyans will show up and Grandpa Gohan will probably refuse to give Goku back to them. So they end up killing everyone on Earth. Without Freeza around, the universe would still have the saiyans going around killing people. Babidi and Dabra would go to another planet to find ways to bring back Buu. Beerus and Whis would go to Planet Vegeta looking for the Super saiyan God and find nothing. Beerus gets angry at the saiyans and blows up Planet Vegeta. Champa and Vados would show up and probably won't have a tournament since the Earth is long gone in Universe 7.

I disagree. The saiyans showed up on Earth looking for Goku due in part to lack of saiyans. If Bardock or Gine come looking for Goku they wouldn't kill him. Androids likely kill everyone.

[Cipher]

What if fat buu actually absorbed golden frieza? Would he stay a hero or become a villain? And would he be strong enough to defeat hit?

Absorption doesn't seem to fundamentally alter Boo's basic personality except in special cases like the Grand Kaioshin. When Boo absorbs people like Gohan, etc., hes still pure evil. Since Mr. Boo is basically good to start, I find it unlikely that absorbing Freeza would change that. He gains their strength, abilities and knowledge, but that seems to be it.

He'd, uh, be pretty strong, though, from what we know about his absorption. Stronger than Hit? Not really sure that would matter, based on how Hit operates, though I'm not sure Hit could kill him.

That's assuming Mr. Boo can still absorb people at all.

What if vegeta and Goku could access ssj blue from the saiyan saga. How much stronger would they become? Or would they be as strong as they are now currently.l?

I doubt they'd get much stronger at all, considering they'd be able to absolutely steamroll every opponent. If they both had access to it in the Saiyan arc, though, I'm not sure the Earth would survive their initial confrontation.

[Hellspawn28]

I disagree. The saiyans showed up on Earth looking for Goku due in part to lack of saiyans. If Bardock or Gine come looking for Goku they wouldn't kill him. Androids likely kill everyone.

They would go to Earth to check up on him to see if he is doing his job or not. Bardock and Gine would try to stop them, but Vegeta's forces would be much stronger than them.

[jplaya2023]

What if vegeta and gohan trained throughout the 7 year gap from cell to the buu saga. They also trained goten and trunks as well with piccolo training as well

[apex_pretador]

What if vegeta and gohan trained throughout the 7 year gap from cell to the buu saga. They also trained goten and trunks as well with piccolo training as well

At budokai, piccolo doesnt surrender to kaioshin, and wipes his ass.

Gohan murders Spopovich and Yamu, because either kaioshin is unconscious, or he can't hold such power.

Babidi comes in and dabra attacks everyone, stoning shin and krillin while killing kibito. Piccolo, gohan, goku & vegeta fight on ship.

Vegeta murders pui-pui

Goku goes SS2 to kill Yakon, while vegeta gets shocked.

Dabura goes all out from the start against piccolo, who is barely able to fight back. In a close battle, vegeta seems losing patience, and dabra notices, tells babidi.

M vegeta = Goku, they fight somewhere else.
Piccolo and gohan see buu awaken, while dabra gets turned to cookie and eaten. Piccolo gives his famous shock expression.

Shin gets awakened, and scared to see buu.
Gohan goes SS2 and he makes quick work of buu, especially with piccolo's help, but buu isn't damaged at all !!! Buu destroys them, until vegeta arrives to save them. Vegeta self-destructs, and pic-gohan run away.

Goku goes with kaioshin to his planet and train with Z-sword, meanwhile buu becomes satan's friend.
Buu becomes super buu, seeing this, goku wants to go to earth, but isn't allowed to, so he trains harder and by chance, breaks the Z sword.
Old shin tells him about his ability, but goku lol's at that. He powers up to a SS3, shocking everyone including super buu at earth.

Super buu attacks the lookout and the videl situation happens except that piccolo wants gohan to train in the time chamber with him. However, same situation happens when buu gets mad.
They go in the chamber, as piccolo guides krillin to do it telepathically.

Then we see SS2 gohan and piccolo vs super buu. They prove outmatched, and piccolo destroys the door. Super buu then screams his way out.

Then, gohan & piccolo train some more and gohan seems to achieve SS3. They scream out of the ROSAT and dominate buu till gohan tires out.

Oh wait, goku arrives, wow.
SS3 goku proves to be more than a match for buu, and unlike gohan, he's fully mastered SS3. Goku , given life by old kaioshin, is doing great against buu, till buu explodes himself and absorbs piccolo and SS2 gohan (he dropped out of SS3)
Buuhan beats goku with little trouble. He's about to destroy the earth but vegeta arrives with a pass to earth.

Vegeta and goku team up to dominate him. He absorbs them, then they take out of his body everyone, including fat buu.

Kid buu turns out to be more dangerous than expected. Then goku vs kid buu happens at shin planet when kidbuu destroys earth.



No fusion, no potara

[jplaya2023]

what if only piccolo dies against the saiyans and the entire z team travels to namek on dr briefs ship he built for goku and they're all training in 100g gravity every day.

briefs expands the ship to 4 levels with 4 different gravity chambers that each can go up to 100G. This trip takes 28 days as they want to train as much as possible. Also goku shows everyone kaoken and the spirit bomb.

How would this affect the story