The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[ekrolo2]

What if the order was rearranged:

21st Tenkaichi Budokai

Goku vs. Bacterian

Nam vs. Jackie Chun

Krillin vs. Ranfan

Yamcha vs. Giran

Does Goku have a more sensitive nose than humans? Because if he does, I can see that giving him some trouble but ultimately he'd win.

Jackie Chun stomps.

This could go either way. I remember Krillin being, at the very least, somewhat of a pervert like Roshi so if Ranfan's antics get to him, I could see him losing this one.

Yamcha's screwed.

22nd Tenkaichi Budokai

Yamcha vs. Chiaotzu

Krillin vs. Tien

Goku vs. Jackie Chun

Manwolf vs. Pamput

The Yamcha luck should have him lose by default but I'm gonna throw him a bone and say he'd beat Chiaotzu.

Tien wins with some difficulty.

Goku owns Jackie.

Manwolf.

23rd Tenkaichi Budokai

Krillin vs. Piccolo

Tien vs. Shen

Goku vs. Yamcha

Cyborg Tao vs. Tokumei Kibou

Didn't these two fight in the series and Krillin lost?

Tough to say but I think Shen would still win but with a good deal of effort needed on his part.

Goku wins, obviously.

Cyborg Tao with some difficulty. Chi-Chi's no push over but I don't see her beating Tao.

[DanielSSJ]

21st Tenkaichi Budokai

Goku vs. Bacterian

Nam vs. Jackie Chun

Krillin vs. Ranfan

Yamcha vs. Giran

Quarter Finals:
- Goku's nose is nearly as sensitive as a dog's, so he struggles a lot more than Kuririn does. Even so, I can't see Goku losing this one.
- Namu puts up an impressive display but ultimately loses to Jackie Chun.
- Kuririn's a perv, so I could see him losing to Lanfan. On the other hand, I don't like seeing gimmick fighters win. Eh coin flip says Kuririn wins.
- Yamcha surpasses Giran in outright ability but succumbs to his Guru Guru Gum.

Semi Finals:
- Goku and Jackie give us the match of the day, but because it happens earlier in the day, there's no moon out for Goku to transform with and he succumbs to the Bankoku Bikkuri Sho.
- Kuririn, having seen Giran's Guru Guru Gum in action, knows to avoid it and takes out the wannabe Kaiju easily.

Finals:
- Jackie is too tired to Kamehameha his way back into the ring after falling for Kuririn's panty ploy. Kuririn wins the tournament.

22nd Tenkaichi Budokai

Yamcha vs. Chiaotzu

Krillin vs. Tien

Goku vs. Jackie Chun

Manwolf vs. Pamput

Quarter Finals:
- Both Yamcha and Chaozu suck, but Yamcha sucks less. He wins
- Kuririn gets beaten up just as badly as Yamcha. Goku is even angrier.
- Goku and Jackie have a good match before Jackie forfiets, knowing that the next generation isn't gonna get complacent. Goku is dissappointed that they didn't get to finish.
- Panputto looked a bit more impressive, so he wins. Manwolf attacks Jackie anyways. Since Kuririn is in the hospital, Jackie just knocks him out.

Semi Finals
- Same as the manga's version of the fight.
- Goku takes out Panputto just like in the manga.

Finals:
- Goku vs Tenshinhan goes mostly the same, but with Goku even angrier over botj Kuririn's and Yamcha's defeat and Ten not having same doubts he did in the actual match, since he never fought Jackie. `Nother coin flip. Goku wins.

23rd Tenkaichi Budokai

Krillin vs. Piccolo

Tien vs. Shen

Goku vs. Yamcha

Cyborg Tao vs. Tokumei Kibou

Quarter Finals:
- Kuririn vs Piccolo goes exactly the same as in the series.
- Tenshinhan puts up a respectble fight against God-in-disguise but loses all the same.
- Goku doesn't even need to remove his weights for this.
- Taopaipai beats who I can only assume is Chichi in a brutal fashion.

Semi Finals:
- Piccolo vs Shen plays out just like last time.
- Goku slaps Tao around like nothing.

Finals:
- Goku wins.

[apex_pretador]

GT Piccolo and Frieza - gauntlet (both are from the Super 17 arc)

Round 1 - individually / Round 2 - working together

Majin Vegeta
Mr. Buu
Grey Buu
Majin Buu (against Majin Vegeta)
SSJ3 Goku
Kid Buu
SSJ3 Gotenks
Janemba (Final Form)
Super Buu
Buutenks
Buuhan
SSJ Vegetto
.

Piccolo stops at SS3 goku , freeza stops at fat buu (pre-split)

Together, they have a shot at SS3 goku, but will ultimately lose.

[apex_pretador]

What if the order was rearranged:

21st Tenkaichi Budokai

Goku vs. Bacterian

Nam vs. Jackie Chun

Krillin vs. Ranfan

Yamcha vs. Giran



22nd Tenkaichi Budokai

Yamcha vs. Chiaotzu

Krillin vs. Tien

Goku vs. Jackie Chun

Manwolf vs. Pamput



23rd Tenkaichi Budokai

Krillin vs. Piccolo

Tien vs. Shen

Goku vs. Yamcha

Cyborg Tao vs. Tokumei Kibou

goku gets furious at the smell, and one-shots bacterian out of the island

Jacky chun easily

Krillin, although it'll be a fun match

Yamcha is stronger, but falls to giru gum

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Goku vs jacky-chun goes the same, with the tail growing back in the middle of the fight, and moon blowing up ends the fight.
Jacky-chun wins

Krillin will realize to not risk and instantly unloads on giran , to win.
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Jacky-chun is too drained & can't win. KRILLIN IS THE CHAMPION

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Chiqtzu
Tien
Goku
Man wolf

Tien
Goku

Goku

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Piccolo
Too close in power, but skill goes to god.
Goku lolstomps
Cybrog tao (assuming you mean chichi)

Piccolo eats god again
Goku lolstomps & wins by ring-out

Epic final again, goes probably the same

[apex_pretador]

New battles:

1. LSS M10 broly vs SS2 goku (CG) and SPC

2. Bojack , dabura (no spit) , LSS broly (M8) , Hatchiyak , Kid SS gohan , Buu arc SS goku , Perfect cell , Android 16 , Buu arc piccolo VS Majin SS2 vegeta

3. Kami vs Popo , Daimao , kid goku (god water) , 23rd TB Tien (No kikoho)

4. Buuhan vs Super buu [SS3 goku , Majin vegeta , Piccolo , SS2 kid gohan , Kibitoshin , M10 LSS broly , SPC] ABSORBED

5. BUU (Gohan , gotenks , Janemba , Hirdugarn) Absorbed VS SS vegetto

6. Buu arc kids run the gauntlet

Scenario 1 : POST ROSAT TRUNKS
Scenario 2 : PRE ROSAT GOTEN & TRUNKS
Scenario 3 : BASE GOTENKS (PRE)

The gauntlet:

- Android 16 and super 13
- Ascended trunks (grade 2)
- Cell games Piccolo
- Cell jr
- Saiyaman arc SS gohan
- Cell games Goku
- Buu arc SS goku
- Full powered perfect cell
- SS2 kid gohan

[Hellspawn28]

Frost in his Final Form vs. (In no real order):

Metal Coola (Post repairs)
Dabra
LSSj Movie 10 Broli
Super Perfect Cell
Fat Buu
SSj3 Gotenks
Kid Buu
Janemba
Buuhan
SSj Vegito
ROF Final Form Freeza
Golden Freeza
Whis

Who does he beat and who beats him?

[Onibaku]

Frost in his Final Form vs. (In no real order):

Metal Coola (Post repairs)
Dabra
LSSj Movie 10 Broli
Super Perfect Cell
Fat Buu
SSj3 Gotenks
Kid Buu
Janemba
Buuhan
SSj Vegito
ROF Final Form Freeza
Golden Freeza
Whis

he may or may not beat Cooler but that's all. he gets beaten by all others

edit: He may also have some chances against Dabura

[DanielSSJ]

New battles:

1. LSS broly vs SS2 goku (CG) and SPC

2. Bojack , dabura (no spit) , LSS broly (M8) , Hatchiyak , Kid SS gohan , Buu arc SS goku , Perfect cell , Android 16 , Buu arc piccolo VS Majin SS2 vegeta

3. Kami vs Popo , Daimao , kid goku (god water) , 23rd TB Tien (No kikoho)

4. Buuhan vs Super buu [SS3 goku , Majin vegeta , Piccolo , SS2 kid gohan , Kibitoshin , M10 LSS broly , SPC] ABSORBED

5. BUU (Gohan , gotenks , Janemba , Hirdugarn) Absorbed VS SS vegetto

6. Buu arc kids run the gauntlet

Scenario 1 : POST ROSAT TRUNKS
Scenario 2 : PRE ROSAT GOTEN & TRUNKS
Scenario 3 : BASE GOTENKS (PRE)

The gauntlet:

- Android 16 and super 13
- Ascended trunks (grade 2)
- Cell games Piccolo
- Cell jr
- Saiyaman arc SS gohan
- Cell games Goku
- Buu arc SS goku
- Full powered perfect cell
- SS2 kid gohan

- Broly's more-or-less on par with Regular Perfect Cell. Both SS2 Goku and Super Cell could handle him on his own.
- Too many guys for Vegeta to handle at once in hand-to-hand. Vegeta may be able to take them all out with long range Ki blasts, but it ain't gonna be easy.
- Even God would succumb to that many fighters of that strength. Popo does the bulk of the work, though.
- Kaioshin-on-Boo absorbtion is screwy, and Boo #2 loses half of his power thanks to Kibitoshin's ineptitude. Gohan Boo wins.
- Nope. Vegetto is still too stong and skilled for Boo to overcome.
- Post ROSAT Trunks and pre ROSAT Goten and Trunks only manage to get up to CG Piccolo. Base Gotenks doesn't even clear the first set.

[DanielSSJ]

Frost in his Final Form vs. (In no real order):

Metal Coola (Post repairs)
Dabra
LSSj Movie 10 Broli
Super Perfect Cell
Fat Buu
SSj3 Gotenks
Kid Buu
Janemba
Buuhan
SSj Vegito
ROF Final Form Freeza
Golden Freeza
Whis

Pure Boo and SS3 Gotenks should be switched. Frost clears up to Fat Boo and maybe Pure Boo but falls to everyone else.

[apex_pretador]

Spoiler:

New battles:

1. LSS broly vs SS2 goku (CG) and SPC

2. Bojack , dabura (no spit) , LSS broly (M8) , Hatchiyak , Kid SS gohan , Buu arc SS goku , Perfect cell , Android 16 , Buu arc piccolo VS Majin SS2 vegeta

3. Kami vs Popo , Daimao , kid goku (god water) , 23rd TB Tien (No kikoho)

4. Buuhan vs Super buu [SS3 goku , Majin vegeta , Piccolo , SS2 kid gohan , Kibitoshin , M10 LSS broly , SPC] ABSORBED

5. BUU (Gohan , gotenks , Janemba , Hirdugarn) Absorbed VS SS vegetto

6. Buu arc kids run the gauntlet

Scenario 1 : POST ROSAT TRUNKS
Scenario 2 : PRE ROSAT GOTEN & TRUNKS
Scenario 3 : BASE GOTENKS (PRE)

The gauntlet:

- Android 16 and super 13
- Ascended trunks (grade 2)
- Cell games Piccolo
- Cell jr
- Saiyaman arc SS gohan
- Cell games Goku
- Buu arc SS goku
- Full powered perfect cell
- SS2 kid gohan

- Broly's more-or-less on par with Regular Perfect Cell. Both SS2 Goku and Super Cell could handle him on his own.

Spoiler:

- Too many guys for Vegeta to handle at once in hand-to-hand. Vegeta may be able to take them all out with long range Ki blasts, but it ain't gonna be easy.
- Even God would succumb to that many fighters of that strength. Popo does the bulk of the work, though.
- Kaioshin-on-Boo absorbtion is screwy, and Boo #2 loses half of his power thanks to Kibitoshin's ineptitude. Gohan Boo wins.
- Nope. Vegetto is still too stong and skilled for Boo to overcome.
- Post ROSAT Trunks and pre ROSAT Goten and Trunks only manage to get up to CG Piccolo. Base Gotenks doesn't even clear the first set

.

Movie 10 broly. I thought it will be obvious, anyways.

[Lord Beerus]

Frost in his Final Form vs. (In no real order):

Metal Coola (Post repairs)
Dabra
LSSj Movie 10 Broli
Super Perfect Cell
Fat Buu
SSj3 Gotenks
Kid Buu
Janemba
Buuhan
SSj Vegito
ROF Final Form Freeza
Golden Freeza
Whis

Who does he beat and who beats him?

Doesn't make it past SSJ3 Gotenks. Everybody else prior to him, he beats comfortably.

[supercat]

Frost in his Final Form vs. (In no real order):

Metal Coola (Post repairs)
Dabra
LSSj Movie 10 Broli
Super Perfect Cell
Fat Buu
SSj3 Gotenks
Kid Buu
Janemba
Buuhan
SSj Vegito
ROF Final Form Freeza
Golden Freeza
Whis

Who does he beat and who beats him?

Frost nonchalantly one-shots his way through the gauntlet before taking a massive beating from Frieza.

[supercat]

GT Piccolo and Frieza - gauntlet (both are from the Super 17 arc)

Round 1 - individually / Round 2 - working together

Majin Vegeta
Mr. Buu
Grey Buu
Majin Buu (against Majin Vegeta)
SSJ3 Goku
Kid Buu
SSJ3 Gotenks
Janemba (Final Form)
Super Buu
Buutenks
Buuhan
SSJ Vegetto
.

Piccolo stops at SS3 goku , freeza stops at fat buu (pre-split)

Together, they have a shot at SS3 goku, but will ultimately lose.

Interesting speculation.

I was always under the impression that GT Frieza was at least a few notches above Rild, who was stated to be stronger than some unspecified form of Buu (likely Kid Buu). If Base Rild was in fact above Kid Buu, Final Form Rild could very well be inching towards Buuhan or at the very least Buutenks in my opinion. I guess the incarnation of Buu Rild was compared to is a major variable here.

As for Piccolo, it's pretty clear that he was at least several tiers above the strongest contenders of hell, as he expressed no concern whatsoever about guarding the place.

Contrary to what many fans may think, I'm inclined to believe that Frieza stood a few tiers higher than Cell, as the latter resorted to cheap tactics like the Solar Flare and absorption while the former actually rushed in and gave their opposition some degree of trouble (once with an array of ki blasts and the second time during hand to hand combat).

I'm really interested in what you have to say, but I typically adhere to the following:

Piccolo > Frieza > Cell > Buuhan > Final Form Rild > Super Buu = Second Form Rild > Base Rild > Kid Buu > SSJ3 Goku (Buu arc)

[Analytic]

GT Piccolo and Frieza - gauntlet (both are from the Super 17 arc)

Round 1 - individually / Round 2 - working together

Majin Vegeta
Mr. Buu
Grey Buu
Majin Buu (against Majin Vegeta)
SSJ3 Goku
Kid Buu
SSJ3 Gotenks
Janemba (Final Form)
Super Buu
Buutenks
Buuhan
SSJ Vegetto

Either one of them could easily defeat Gohan-Boo individually, while I think SS Vegetto could defeat the both of them even teamed up. I agree with Piccolo > Freeza > Rild, though I have Rild even stronger than Ultimate Gohan at the very least as he beat GT Base Gohan with moderate ease.

[supercat]

GT Piccolo and Frieza - gauntlet (both are from the Super 17 arc)

Round 1 - individually / Round 2 - working together

Majin Vegeta
Mr. Buu
Grey Buu
Majin Buu (against Majin Vegeta)
SSJ3 Goku
Kid Buu
SSJ3 Gotenks
Janemba (Final Form)
Super Buu
Buutenks
Buuhan
SSJ Vegetto

Either one of them could easily defeat Gohan-Boo individually, while I think SS Vegetto could defeat the both of them even teamed up. I agree with Piccolo > Freeza > Rild, though I have Rild even stronger than Ultimate Gohan at the very least as he beat GT Base Gohan with moderate ease.

Even if Vegetto held a slight advantage in strength, the duo's collaboration and unique arsenal of skills would prove to be quite daunting in my opinion; Piccolo's tactical prowess in conjunction with Frieza's ability to execute an array of acrobatically-superior movements would definitely pack a punch to say the least. But yeah, I agree, either Piccolo or Frieza individually would roast anyone under SSJ Vegetto without batting an eye.

How would you compare Cell and Frieza? Does my theory on Frieza > Cell hold any validity in your opinion?

[Lord Beerus]

Tagoma (Post training in ROF arc) runs a gauntlet. How far does he go before he hits a brick wall:

Fat Boo (Pre-split)
Kid Boo
SSJ3 Goku
SSJ Gotenks (Post ROSAT)
Super Boo
SSJ3 Gotenks
Super Boo (w/Piccolo, Goten and Trunks)
Ultimate Gohan
Bootenks
Base Vegetto
Boohan
SSJ Vegetto

[Analytic]

Even if Vegetto held a slight advantage in strength, the duo's collaboration and unique arsenal of skills would prove to be quite daunting in my opinion; Piccolo's tactical prowess in conjunction with Frieza's ability to execute an array of acrobatically-superior movements would definitely pack a punch to say the least. But yeah, I agree, either Piccolo or Frieza individually would roast anyone under SSJ Vegetto without batting an eye.

That is a fair opinion, though I have quite a gap between Freeza and Vegetto; enough for the latter to defeat the former with a single blow. So even if Piccolo alone was closing in on Vegetto, I don't think Freeza would be strong enough to offer enough support to tip the tide in Green Man's favor.

How would you compare Cell and Frieza? Does my theory on Frieza > Cell hold any validity in your opinion?

It does, though I don't agree with it. I'd be willing to place them as equals at most, though I prefer to think Cell still holds the edge due to status quo.

[ToxicFlame707]

Which of these powerful purple cats wins the yarn?

[DanielSSJ]

Tagoma (Post training in ROF arc) runs a gauntlet. How far does he go before he hits a brick wall:

Fat Boo (Pre-split)
Kid Boo
SSJ3 Goku
SSJ Gotenks (Post ROSAT)
Super Boo
SSJ3 Gotenks
Super Boo (w/Piccolo, Goten and Trunks)
Ultimate Gohan
Bootenks
Base Vegetto
Boohan
SSJ Vegetto

The best Tagoma can hope to do is beat Fat Boo, and even that's iffy.

[RandomGuy96]

Tagoma (Post training in ROF arc) runs a gauntlet. How far does he go before he hits a brick wall:

Fat Boo (Pre-split)
Kid Boo
SSJ3 Goku
SSJ Gotenks (Post ROSAT)
Super Boo
SSJ3 Gotenks
Super Boo (w/Piccolo, Goten and Trunks)
Ultimate Gohan
Bootenks
Base Vegetto
Boohan
SSJ Vegetto

This is getting pretty silly. Tagoma, after powering up, got his ass kicked by an SS Gohan who was by all implications weaker than the one from the beginning of the Buu arc. He gets wiped out immediately by the very first opponent he faces.