"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Sodhi » Sat Mar 12, 2016 4:17 pm

Chuquita wrote:I'm partly hoping the manga does jump ahead because I want to see what comes after the tournament.
I have a feeling that all what manga would be able to accomplish is to catch up to the anime. The chapter will probably end where the end of #34 left us. Then again, he can just quickly skim through the fights or skip them entirely(I doubt it but its not out of the question).

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by ZombieVito » Sat Mar 12, 2016 4:18 pm

They probably won't but I really hope they explain more what the hell is going on with the Super Saiyan form.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by sintzu » Sat Mar 12, 2016 4:30 pm

Zombie wrote:They probably won't but I really hope they explain more what the hell is going on with the Super Saiyan form.
Could it be a typing mistake ? I read somewhere here that it happened before in that magazine.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by omaro34 » Sat Mar 12, 2016 7:07 pm

Zombie wrote:They probably won't but I really hope they explain more what the hell is going on with the Super Saiyan form.
The only explanation I can think of is that they want to sell merchandise for the old school, golden haired Super Saiyan. Since people are more familiar with the golden form than the blue haired SSJ God, they want to jump on the chance to make dough. Can't blame them there, and they do it by giving Goku an excuse not to use the Blue form saying that he felt he didn't need to go all out.

The more they sell, the bigger budget they will have to produce more quality work.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by ZombieVito » Sat Mar 12, 2016 7:12 pm

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Zombie wrote:They probably won't but I really hope they explain more what the hell is going on with the Super Saiyan form.
The only explanation I can think of is that they want to sell merchandise for the old school, golden haired Super Saiyan. Since people are more familiar with the golden form than the blue haired SSJ God, they want to jump on the chance to make dough. Can't blame them there, and they do it by giving Goku an excuse not to use the Blue form saying that he felt he didn't need to go all out.

The more they sell, the bigger budget they will have to produce more quality work.
Yeah that's most likely the out of universe explanation.

They just need to give an in universe one.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by omaro34 » Sat Mar 12, 2016 7:27 pm

Zombie wrote:
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Zombie wrote:They probably won't but I really hope they explain more what the hell is going on with the Super Saiyan form.
The only explanation I can think of is that they want to sell merchandise for the old school, golden haired Super Saiyan. Since people are more familiar with the golden form than the blue haired SSJ God, they want to jump on the chance to make dough. Can't blame them there, and they do it by giving Goku an excuse not to use the Blue form saying that he felt he didn't need to go all out.

The more they sell, the bigger budget they will have to produce more quality work.
Yeah that's most likely the out of universe explanation.

They just need to give an in universe one.
Saiyans thirst for battle, and like to drag things out by not going all out from the start. This isn't something new in this series. Example you may ask? Freeza.

That guy could have wiped out the Z fighters on Namek in an instant had he gone to his Final Form the moment he laid eyes on them. Hell, when Goku showed up and he was in his Final Form he didn't go to 100% until it was too late.

This isn't much different. Goku doesn't want to go to his blue form right away, and likes to drag things out and is saving his full power for the later opponents in the tournament. He just didn't expect to get knocked out of the ring like he did.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Khin » Sat Mar 12, 2016 8:42 pm

I kinda wish they had the manga colored.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by LightBing » Sat Mar 12, 2016 9:01 pm

I hope they don't jump ahead. I adore Dragon Ball in manga format. The little differences and flavor Toyotaro gives, makes the it enough to be it's on thing. Curious how Piccolo's fight and forfeit will be handled.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Khin » Sat Mar 12, 2016 9:10 pm

LightBing wrote:I hope they don't jump ahead. I adore Dragon Ball in manga format. The little differences and flavor Toyotaro gives, makes the it enough to be it's on thing. Curious how Piccolo's fight and forfeit will be handled.
But the point of the manga is that it was supposed to hype fans so they will look out for the anime version.It's a promotional manga.Now that the anime has surpassed it,i doubt people,especially kids or casual fans will look out for it the same as before.So i think they'd jump straight to Frost vs.Vegeta.Toyotaro will probably just do a recap for Goku vs. Frost,Piccolo vs. Frost etc.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by LightBing » Sat Mar 12, 2016 9:28 pm

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LightBing wrote:I hope they don't jump ahead. I adore Dragon Ball in manga format. The little differences and flavor Toyotaro gives, makes the it enough to be it's on thing. Curious how Piccolo's fight and forfeit will be handled.
But the point of the manga is that it was supposed to hype fans so they will look out for the anime version.It's a promotional manga.Now that the anime has surpassed it,i doubt people,especially kids or casual fans will look out for it the same as before.So i think they'd jump straight to Frost vs.Vegeta.Toyotaro will probably just do a recap for Goku vs. Frost,Piccolo vs. Frost etc.
They're packing the manga in a volume. That's a strong indication the product has changed from being promotion only to hype the upcoming story, to support material that runs on the side of the show.
If one's already watching the anime, the previews serve as hype tool.

Why would they skip parts of the story to give spoilers? Losing in the process those who would buy the magazine and the volumes. Because if they cut parts, I will not buy the volume like I'm planning and many people would likely follow suit.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Kuririn Fan » Sat Mar 12, 2016 11:24 pm

It hasn't changed, it's still a promo. It has a volume, because why not, money is money, and even things like SD have volumes.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Neon Z » Sun Mar 13, 2016 6:32 am

Zombie wrote:
omaro34 wrote:
Zombie wrote:They probably won't but I really hope they explain more what the hell is going on with the Super Saiyan form.
The only explanation I can think of is that they want to sell merchandise for the old school, golden haired Super Saiyan. Since people are more familiar with the golden form than the blue haired SSJ God, they want to jump on the chance to make dough. Can't blame them there, and they do it by giving Goku an excuse not to use the Blue form saying that he felt he didn't need to go all out.

The more they sell, the bigger budget they will have to produce more quality work.
Yeah that's most likely the out of universe explanation.

They just need to give an in universe one.
In the manga there were Goku's content comments about being worried about wasting too much energy in the early battles and not saving enough for later. It's better than the anime's "he learned nothing from the last arc".

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Draconic » Sun Mar 13, 2016 6:42 am

The manga should continue even if it falls behind as I feel it is much closer to Toriyama's outline, rather than the anime, which surley has some mingling done by Toei. Sure, Toyotaro probably adds stuff too, like Super Saiyan Blue, but that's adding lines due to lack of a script, but the events themselves play out closer to Toriyama's vision.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by SansrivaaL » Sun Mar 13, 2016 11:25 am

Agree'd, I see the manga closer to what Akira Toriyama's main story is compared to the anime, plus the manga's 100x better than the anime.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Noah » Sun Mar 13, 2016 11:36 am

SansrivaaL wrote:Agree'd, I see the manga closer to what Akira Toriyama's main story is compared to the anime, plus the manga's 100x better than the anime.
You just said the obvious.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by kinisking » Sun Mar 13, 2016 2:33 pm

There is no evidence of toei messing with the anime any more than the manga. Actually, with all the similarities (like piccolo making the exact same face as in the manga after the female saiyan joke, universe destroying) it's more likely that toei has heavy control of both.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Grimlock » Sun Mar 13, 2016 5:07 pm

Well, Gregory already appeared in this new saga that was supposed to be canon. I remember seeing Vegeta with bangs in the manga as well.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Araki » Sun Mar 13, 2016 5:31 pm

Draconic wrote:The manga should continue even if it falls behind as I feel it is much closer to Toriyama's outline, rather than the anime, which surley has some mingling done by Toei. Sure, Toyotaro probably adds stuff too, like Super Saiyan Blue, but that's adding lines due to lack of a script, but the events themselves play out closer to Toriyama's vision.
I'm perplexed by how people keep making false claims like that with a straight face with no evidence whatsoever, just based on personal taste. Wow.
LightBing wrote:They're packing the manga in a volume. That's a strong indication the product has changed from being promotion only to hype the upcoming story, to support material that runs on the side of the show.
If one's already watching the anime, the previews serve as hype tool.
It's not, because promotional manga get volume releases, too. They obviously wouldn't miss the chance of earn a few extra and easy bucks.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by namekiansaiyan » Sun Mar 13, 2016 5:40 pm

Araki wrote:
I'm perplexed by how people keep making false claims like that with a straight face with no evidence whatsoever, just based on personal taste. Wow.
This is just the same with people saying that Goku has 2 base forms it is just stuff made up with no evidence.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Xeztin » Sun Mar 13, 2016 5:53 pm

namekiansaiyan wrote:
Araki wrote:
I'm perplexed by how people keep making false claims like that with a straight face with no evidence whatsoever, just based on personal taste. Wow.
This is just the same with people saying that Goku has 2 base forms it is just stuff made up with no evidence.
How can you have 2 base forms? Base is Base right? I'm guessing your referring to the "Saiyan Beyond God" thing. Only way I could see that working is if he can turn God Ki on and off... Which could also explain Goku's ability to still go SSJ gold I suppose. :eh:

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