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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Esfír Dedragón » Sun Mar 13, 2016 1:50 pm

Here's a few more that I thought of:

I never liked the idea of time-travel in Dragon Ball.

Regardless of the new story details that we got from Battle of Gods and Resurrection F, I think it may have been a better opportunity for either Toei or Toriyama to explore the other alternate timelines. In my eyes, alternate timeline=alternate universe. I'm still curious about what eventually happened in the Unseen Timeline and the HOT timeline.

I would have preferred having Yamcha, Chiaotzu, Tien Shinhan, and maybe Yajirobe being permanently killed off during the Saiyan Saga.

Mr. Satan should not have showed up in the Dragon Ball universe. Or, he should have been written differently.

Super Saiyan 3 should have looked more "primal", such as having fangs/sharp teeth, a gorilla-like face, etc.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Black_Liger » Mon Mar 14, 2016 4:29 am

Kuririn Fan wrote:
Black_Liger wrote:If the animation was a little better, and blood, DB super would be better than DBZ could ever hope to be.
What the fuck? No, no and no. Explain, please.

Whoops, forgot to mention, DBZ FROM CELL SAGA TO BUU SAGA. Maybe it's because I'm a nut for classic db, and the champa arc is pretty much DB with DBZ characters until now, and it's freaking great. Won't defend or attack the retelling arcs though, althought I'd say battle of gods is better than Cell and Buu sagas combined too. RoF!Movie is not bad in my sight, but it was deliberatly left unexplained in many aspects just to expand it on Super, (where it wasn't even expanded). Still, Rof!Super started well, went downhill when Goku fought freeza and ended up in a high note thanks to the last episode.

So in my view

Db to DBZ!Freeza arc > DB Super > Cell saga and Buu saga.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Kuririn Fan » Mon Mar 14, 2016 9:09 am

That makes sense now, but still, Cell and Boo are way better. Dragon Ball should have ended in 1995.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Desassina » Mon Mar 14, 2016 9:32 am

I always group things according to my enjoyment, and it's funny, because:

1. Pilaf -> Red Ribbon Army - are one package for me.
2. Tenshinhan Tournament -> Piccolo Daimao - are another.
3. Piccolo Tournament -> Saiyans' arrival - end certain things.
4. Namek and Freeza -> Cell absorptions - realize a few others.
5. Cell Games -> Great Saiyaman and Babidi - Gohan's rise and fall.
6. Buu and Fusions -> Kid Buu and Uub - a failed passing of the torch.

And my picks are, from best to worst:
3 > 2 > 5 > 6 > 1 > 4

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Hellspawn28 » Mon Mar 14, 2016 9:43 am

I don't really care for blood in the series. I mean the series had some bloody moments, but it was nothing too graphic. Dragon Ball series seem to be tame down a bit since GT. GT only had one scene of blood while DBZ had more than one. So I gotten used to DB being water down a bit.
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Post by Soppa Saia People » Mon Mar 14, 2016 4:05 pm

I only want blood for A drama (IE a brutal fight and both fighters are bleeding) and B if it makes sense (IE if a a drill beam goes though a stomach, there shouldn't be a black hole with no blood). Some people I've talk to sounds like they want Mortal Kombat amounts of blood. :think:
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ABED » Mon Mar 14, 2016 4:07 pm

soppa saia people wrote:I only want blood for A drama (IE a brutal fight and both fighters are bleeding) and B if it makes sense (IE if a a drill beam goes though a stomach, there shouldn't be a black hole with no blood). Some people I've talk to sounds like they want Mortal Kombat amounts of blood. :think:
Well, the beam could cauterize the wound.
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Post by Soppa Saia People » Mon Mar 14, 2016 4:14 pm

ABED wrote:
soppa saia people wrote:I only want blood for A drama (IE a brutal fight and both fighters are bleeding) and B if it makes sense (IE if a a drill beam goes though a stomach, there shouldn't be a black hole with no blood). Some people I've talk to sounds like they want Mortal Kombat amounts of blood. :think:
Well, the beam could cauterize the wound.
Fair point. BTW it was more in reference to the Kai Makankosappo scene.
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Post by ABED » Mon Mar 14, 2016 4:18 pm

soppa saia people wrote:
ABED wrote:
soppa saia people wrote:I only want blood for A drama (IE a brutal fight and both fighters are bleeding) and B if it makes sense (IE if a a drill beam goes though a stomach, there shouldn't be a black hole with no blood). Some people I've talk to sounds like they want Mortal Kombat amounts of blood. :think:
Well, the beam could cauterize the wound.
Fair point. BTW it was more in reference to the Kai Makankosappo scene.
I figured it was either that the Ocean dub version.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by sintzu » Mon Mar 14, 2016 4:30 pm

Kuririn Fan wrote:Dragon Ball should have ended in 1995.
It did. GT, Super and whatever else they'll release after are their own thing that have no effect on the original.

It's like Yu-Gi-Oh, it's still going on with show after show but it has a main manga story that began in 1996 and ended in 2004 just like DB.

DB and other huge franchises don't end so all we can do as fans is hope that the new products are good.

At least Toriyama didn't make Shueisha pull all copies of the DB manga and anime and change them up like what George Locus did with Star Wars.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Kuririn Fan » Mon Mar 14, 2016 4:32 pm

sintzu wrote:
Kuririn Fan wrote:Dragon Ball should have ended in 1995.
It did. GT, Super and whatever else they'll release after are their own thing that have no effect on the original.

It's like Yu-Gi-Oh, it's still going on with show after show but it has a main manga story that began in 1996 and ended in 2004 just like DB.

DB and other huge franchises don't end so all we can do as fans is hope that the new products are good.

At least Toriyama didn't make Shueisha pull all copies of the DB manga and anime and change them up like what George Locus did with Star Wars.
Well, i guess you're right...

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Post by dbzfan7 » Mon Mar 14, 2016 5:11 pm

Kuririn Fan wrote:
sintzu wrote:
Kuririn Fan wrote:Dragon Ball should have ended in 1995.
It did. GT, Super and whatever else they'll release after are their own thing that have no effect on the original.

It's like Yu-Gi-Oh, it's still going on with show after show but it has a main manga story that began in 1996 and ended in 2004 just like DB.

DB and other huge franchises don't end so all we can do as fans is hope that the new products are good.

At least Toriyama didn't make Shueisha pull all copies of the DB manga and anime and change them up like what George Locus did with Star Wars.
Well, i guess you're right...
I'm gonna disagree. Yugioh before the movie, ended. It's story was over for the longest time and we had new characters take over. The Dragon Ball story ended in a sense, but the original story has not ended. It's still going on. Yugioh's original tale with Yugi ended, and they picked up a new storyline. It wasn't until BBT and the new movie that Yugi came back.
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Post by LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta » Mon Mar 14, 2016 5:17 pm

sintzu wrote:
Kuririn Fan wrote:Dragon Ball should have ended in 1995.
It did. GT, Super and whatever else they'll release after are their own thing that have no effect on the original.

It's like Yu-Gi-Oh, it's still going on with show after show but it has a main manga story that began in 1996 and ended in 2004 just like DB.

DB and other huge franchises don't end so all we can do as fans is hope that the new products are good.

At least Toriyama didn't make Shueisha pull all copies of the DB manga and anime and change them up like what George Locus did with Star Wars.

George pulled nothing and the changes made it better.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Kuririn Fan » Mon Mar 14, 2016 5:27 pm

The thing is - they're not going past the ending (as of now). GT did it, but it's not canon, so story really DID end in '95.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Mar 14, 2016 5:41 pm

Kuririn Fan wrote:The thing is - they're not going past the ending (as of now). GT did it, but it's not canon, so story really DID end in '95.
Who's to say Super won't go past EOZ like GT did?

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Post by Kuririn Fan » Mon Mar 14, 2016 5:45 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:
Kuririn Fan wrote:The thing is - they're not going past the ending (as of now). GT did it, but it's not canon, so story really DID end in '95.
Who's to say Super won't go past EOZ like GT did?
I said AS OF NOW. But, i don't think they will. That would take some cojones.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Dragon Ball Ireland » Mon Mar 14, 2016 5:45 pm

LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:
sintzu wrote:
Kuririn Fan wrote:Dragon Ball should have ended in 1995.
It did. GT, Super and whatever else they'll release after are their own thing that have no effect on the original.

It's like Yu-Gi-Oh, it's still going on with show after show but it has a main manga story that began in 1996 and ended in 2004 just like DB.

DB and other huge franchises don't end so all we can do as fans is hope that the new products are good.

At least Toriyama didn't make Shueisha pull all copies of the DB manga and anime and change them up like what George Locus did with Star Wars.

George pulled nothing and the changes made it better.
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Post by ABED » Mon Mar 14, 2016 6:07 pm

George pulled nothing and the changes made it better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79oXaClf-uc My reaction at 0:14

When Luke fell down the shaft in Bespin, one of the releases had him screaming. Not only that, the scream was literally the Emperors scream when Vader threw him down the shaft in the Death Star.

There are occasional changes which I don't mind such as the extra footage of the wampa eating and Ian McDiarmid as the Emperor.

And yes, Lucas did pull things. You can't find the original trilogy untouched. Unfortunately, DBZ's treatment has been way worse.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by sintzu » Mon Mar 14, 2016 6:50 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:Who's to say Super won't go past EOZ like GT did?
It can go wherever it wants but that won't change the fact that the original DB ended in 1995.
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Post by Gaffer Tape » Mon Mar 14, 2016 7:50 pm

ABED wrote:I figured it was either that the Ocean dub version.
Well, it didn't even go through them in the original dub, let alone leave a hole, be it cauterized, black, bloody, or otherwise.
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