Imagine a season-based Dragon Ball anime production

[Captain Strawberry]

25 episodes of high quality

In fact. Toei should reanimate the whole tournament arc once it's over in super high quality.

[sintzu]

25 episodes of high quality

In fact. Toei should reanimate the whole tournament arc once it's over in super high quality.

The closest thing we'll get to a high quality tournament is a movie adaption.

In terms of a seasonal format, I don't think it's necessary cause DB & Z were weekly anime and both had great production quality but if we did get a seasonal format then it would probably look like Attack On Titan.

[Kamiccolo9]

25 episodes of high quality

In fact. Toei should reanimate the whole tournament arc once it's over in super high quality.

The closest thing we'll get to a high quality tournament is a movie adaption.

In terms of a seasonal format, I don't think it's necessary cause DB & Z were weekly anime and both had great production quality but if we did get a seasonal format then it would probably look like Attack On Titan.

Dragon Ball, at its best, wishes that it could look half as good as AoT, at its worst. Let's not get ahead of ourselves.

[Captain Strawberry]

25 episodes of high quality

In fact. Toei should reanimate the whole tournament arc once it's over in super high quality.

The closest thing we'll get to a high quality tournament is a movie adaption.

In terms of a seasonal format, I don't think it's necessary cause DB & Z were weekly anime and both had great production quality but if we did get a seasonal format then it would probably look like Attack On Titan.

Dragon Ball, at its best, wishes that it could look half as good as AoT, at its worst. Let's not get ahead of ourselves.

If they put the budget in :d

[Onibaku]

The waits between seasons would be unbearable though

[rereboy]

25 episodes of high quality

In fact. Toei should reanimate the whole tournament arc once it's over in super high quality.

The closest thing we'll get to a high quality tournament is a movie adaption.

In terms of a seasonal format, I don't think it's necessary cause DB & Z were weekly anime and both had great production quality but if we did get a seasonal format then it would probably look like Attack On Titan.

Dragon Ball, at its best, wishes that it could look half as good as AoT, at its worst. Let's not get ahead of ourselves.

Only because Toei doesn't want to.

Before they had animes, attack on titan, one-punch man and others were nowhere as big as Dragon Ball and their companies still invested enough money and talent to create an awesome anime for them.

Meanwhile, Toei doesn't even come close to trying to make an anime like that, despite Dragon Ball being a much bigger franchise.

Why? Because they don't want to. They are convinced that it's going to make money even with low investiment so they don't care.

That's what Toei consistently does despite having some of the biggest franchises out there. They are just greedy.

If they actually cared about their product, they would make sure that it looked at least better than average in all aspects since they are sure to make money out of it.

[sintzu]

Dragon Ball, at its best, wishes that it could look half as good as AoT, at its worst.

DB at it's best was produced 20+ years ago so of course it doesn't look as good as something produced 3 years ago.

But if Super had the time, budget & qualified animators then it would look just as good as any modern anime.

Only because Toei doesn't want to.

Before they had animes, attack on titan, one-punch man and others were nowhere as big as Dragon Ball and their companies still invested enough money and talent to create an awesome anime for them.

Meanwhile, Toei doesn't even come close to trying to make an anime like that, despite Dragon Ball being a much bigger franchise.

Why? Because they don't want to. They are convinced that it's going to make money even with low investiment so they don't care.

That's what Toei consistently does despite having some of the biggest franchises out there. They are just greedy.

If they actually cared about their product, they would make sure that it looked at least better than average in all aspects since they are sure to make money out of it.

What makes Super's production worse is that Toie thinks they're doing a good job with it.

[rereboy]

What makes Super's production worse is that Toie thinks they're doing a good job with it.

Nah, they just don't care. All they care is a safe way to maximize profit, and since Dragon Ball will always attract money, they just spend the minimum without risking more than that.

[DevoSlice88]

What makes Super's production worse is that Toie thinks they're doing a good job with it.

Nah, they just don't care. All they care is a safe way to maximize profit, and since Dragon Ball will always attract money, they just spend the minimum without risking more than that.

Yeah but it just pisses me off how pathetic and just greedy that is. Like if they put more money into it and made it look as good as modern animes like Attack on Titan then then their money would come back to them tenfold because more people would praise it and enjoy it and pay more and demand more releases because of the vastly improved animation quality. Greedy bastards is right man, they give no shits about the product because they know it will sell anyway. I just wish they would've heard about how it takes money to make money.

[JulieYBM]

If they put the budget in :d

Budget means nothing when you don't have time, which is what Super is desperately lacking.

What makes Super's production worse is that Toie thinks they're doing a good job with it.

Hardly. There's no way the staff actually working on the series think they're putting out good work.

[Lord Beerus]

What makes Super's production worse is that Toie thinks they're doing a good job with it.

Nah, they just don't care. All they care is a safe way to maximize profit, and since Dragon Ball will always attract money, they just spend the minimum without risking more than that.

Yeah but it just pisses me off how pathetic and just greedy that is. Like if they put more money into it and made it look as good as modern animes like Attack on Titan then then their money would come back to them tenfold because more people would praise it and enjoy it and pay more and demand more releases because of the vastly improved animation quality. Greedy bastards is right man, they give no shits about the product because they know it will sell anyway. I just wish they would've heard about how it takes money to make money.

Comparing Attack on Titan and Dragon Ball in any sense is not the best comparison. Attack on Titan is a short, late night anime series, and most short, late night anime series can afford to have better animation, because, well, they're short. The schedule would allow for better animation in comparison to long running series which pretty much has to meet a demand every week for God knows how many years. Short, late night anime series don't have to stretch their budget per episode like a 100+ long running anime would have to.

Attack On Titan, in all fairness, while popular, is nowhere near the global sensation like Dragon Ball is. The animation in Super can remain average because Toei know that market will still be there for the franchise because Dragon Ball is that big of name, and it will sell well regardless. Attack On Titan doesn't have that luxury because it's a late night anime, so it doesn't have the same amount of mass audience exposure that Dragon Ball Super has. So that anime having great animation is one of, if not, the main selling point, as BD collectors in Japan will more than likely buy a show if the animation is stunning, and if the show as a whole interests them. Great/Good animation = Good/Great BD sales = $$$.

[Hellspawn28]

Not to mention Attack on Titan has a different age market than Dragon Ball. Attack on Titan is way more dark and violent compare to DB. I don't see us getting seasons of Dragon Ball similar to newer anime. I think another decade from now, they could remake Saiyan - Buu saga into movies. Imagine the Saiyan saga redone with animation on the same level as BOG and ROF?

[Captain Strawberry]

Not to mention Attack on Titan has a different age market than Dragon Ball. Attack on Titan is way more dark and violent compare to DB. I don't see us getting seasons of Dragon Ball similar to newer anime. I think another decade from now, they could remake Saiyan - Buu saga into movies. Imagine the Saiyan saga redone with animation on the same level as BOG and ROF?

If they did it seasonal, they could do the pacing justice and spend a lot of time on the fight scenes and make them 10x better than the movies or super manga.

[Iberian_Saiyan]

So a short series? They should let Madhouse take care of it. It would look amazing.

[Captain Strawberry]

So a short series? They should let Madhouse take care of it. It would look amazing.

well you can put a lot of content in 25 episodes so like it can be the equivalent of of maybe 70 episodes with better pacing.

[Hellspawn28]

The manga is 42 volumes long. You would need a lot of seasons to adapt them all. Even Kai without the filler in DBZ is still over 100 episodes long.

[Captain Strawberry]

The manga is 42 volumes long. You would need a lot of seasons to adapt them all. Even Kai without the filler in DBZ is still over 100 episodes long.

But if we are talking about the second half than I bet you could do it in 4 or even 3 seasons for the Saiyajin, Frieza etc for 25 episodes each.

But I'm really referring to the super. Would you guys mind seeing Super's ROF be remade as a seasonal production?

[sintzu]

Would you guys mind seeing Super's ROF be remade as a seasonal production?

We already have it in Super and as a movie so having a 3rd version would be overkill.

[rereboy]

Comparing Attack on Titan and Dragon Ball in any sense is not the best comparison. Attack on Titan is a short, late night anime series, and most short, late night anime series can afford to have better animation, because, well, they're short. The schedule would allow for better animation in comparison to long running series which pretty much has to meet a demand every week for God knows how many years. Short, late night anime series don't have to stretch their budget per episode like a 100+ long running anime would have to.

Fullmetal alchemist is a 27 volume manga. Not much shorter than Dragon Ball.

It had one anime and then, just 5 years later, a remake, adapting the story. Both with great quality. Combined, both anime had more than 100 episodes.

Toei just doesn't want to do the same. They are so cheap that they do stuff like Kai instead of an actual remake and make Super with low quality.

Attack On Titan, in all fairness, while popular, is nowhere near the global sensation like Dragon Ball is. The animation in Super can remain average because Toei know that market will still be there for the franchise because Dragon Ball is that big of name, and it will sell well regardless. Attack On Titan doesn't have that luxury because it's a late night anime, so it doesn't have the same amount of mass audience exposure that Dragon Ball Super has. So that anime having great animation is one of, if not, the main selling point, as BD collectors in Japan will more than likely buy a show if the animation is stunning, and if the show as a whole interests them. Great/Good animation = Good/Great BD sales = $$$.

In other words, they don't care about the quality of their product, just profit margins.

[Iberian_Saiyan]

well you can put a lot of content in 25 episodes so like it can be the equivalent of of maybe 70 episodes with better pacing.

That's true, yeah.

The waits between seasons would be unbearable though

I was a bit disappointed to realise that Season 2 of One Punch Man will only return sometime later this year but it's worth the wait and patience tends to be rewarded. Certainly wouldn't mind if Toei gave Dragon Ball Super seasonal breaks than to rush into a new arc.