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I just have been thinking through some hypothetical scenarios and was wondering who you all think would win in a fight SSGod Goku or SS3 Vegetto?
The SSGod limit does not expire, but the energy-draining of the SS3 form apply!
Well.....going by my scale SSJ3 Vegito stomps as I have him even above Beerus but below Whis by a good margin. SSJG Goku is still quite a bit above SSJ and SSJ2 Vegito though.
Interesting, Pocket-God. What about the quote Goku says after Beerus defeats him on Kaio's planet? He mentioned that he thought fusion wouldn't even defeat Beerus. I always interpretted that as to mean Vegetto SS3 because Goku had been part of Vegetto SS, and he's a great fighter and ki sensor. I feel like he would estimate the strength of SS3 Vegetto well.
I just have been thinking through some hypothetical scenarios and was wondering who you all think would win in a fight SSGod Goku or SS3 Vegetto?
The SSGod limit does not expire, but the energy-draining of the SS3 form apply!
SSG goku one-shots
Vegetto (BoG) was said to be "May not work" against heavily suppressed beerus (much less than 10%)
Goku called SSG " a realm of power which I didn't know that could ever exist."
As far as I'm concerned Goku was referring to Super Vegito and that's it. You can say what you want but it's highly unlikely that I'd change my opinion.
Zombie wrote:
Ultimate Gohan vs Final Form Freeza.
Piccolo [RoF arc] vs East Kaioshin.
Sorbet [No ring] vs Gine.
Freeza stomps.
The difference in the forms of freeza was large enough to one-shot, and there is no way in hell that 1st form freeza is weaker than fat buu. Even by minimalistic route, freeza fires a death beam & blows the planet up.
I doubt RoF piccolo is much higher than buu arc piccolo. The problem is kaioshin's placement though.
If we go by Shin ~ Babidi with magic << SS gohan ~ Piccolo , then it is obvious
If we go by Babidi (w magic) << SS gohan ~ Piccolo << Shin <<< SS2 gohan , then shin stomps
I just wanted to hear your thoughts if I mentioned more detail. Haha, I'm not here to try and change people's opinions. One of the most incredible things about Dragon Ball is that it allows us to continue the discussion of characters for many years after their initial debut because of the way the story was written. It is truly a great way to interpret the art.
@Zombie
I would say Final Form Frieza [RoF Saga]. SS Gohan got taken out with one punch; even if he tapped into Ultimate, his lack of training would be his downfall.
I'd say East Kaioshin wins this one. Like apex_pretador said, Piccolo probably hasn't gained that much in a few years since the Buu Saga. I wonder how much stronger Piccolo is by the Champa Saga? He kept up well with Frost - Final Form.
I have no way of telling Gine's strength, but I'd still say her based on her warrior-race saiyan heritage. Sorbet seemed like a tactician and brainiac.
Random Versus here, but I'd like to hear thoughts: SSGSS Gohan vs. Golden Frieza?
I just have been thinking through some hypothetical scenarios and was wondering who you all think would win in a fight SSGod Goku or SS3 Vegetto?
The SSGod limit does not expire, but the energy-draining of the SS3 form apply!
Goku beats him in a few punches.
Ultimate Gohan vs Final Form Freeza.
Piccolo [RoF arc] vs East Kaioshin.
Sorbet [No ring] vs Gine.
- My revised Super Power Scale pegs base Goku and True Form Freeza as being about twice as strong as SS3 Goku from the Boo Arc. So Ultimate Gohan takes it with ease.
- Even if you lowball Piccolo, he's almost undoubtedly stronger than Kaioshin now.
- Sorbet's power level is only about 100-200 in my eyes, whereas Gine is at least on par with pre-Raditz Goku, and that is a severe lowball.
Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
Spoiler:
Nickolaidas wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
Spoiler:
Nickolaidas wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
But wasn't Sorbet on pair with SSJ Beat in that Heroes comercial?
Heroes isn't the most reliable source when it comes to powerscaling.They also showed 1st Form Frost fighting on par with SSj Blue Goku in one of their trailers.
Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
Spoiler:
Nickolaidas wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
- SSJ Goku (Boo Arc) x Full Power Bojack
- Supressed SSJ Gohan (Boo Arc) x Coola Armored Squad & Final Form Coola
- Base Vegeta (Android Arc) x Giant Slug
- Base Mirai Trunks (Android Arc) x Tullece (after have eaten 10 fruits of the Tree Of Might)
- Super Android 13 x Bujin and Zangya
Goku wins with medium difficulty.Bojack was more or less on par wth Perfect Cell.
Gohan waves his hand and Coola and his squad gets obliterated.
Slug was implied to be stronger than Freeza.He stomps Vegeta,literally.
