When did the Z fighters learn to fly?

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When did the Z fighters learn to fly?

Post by DevoSlice88 » Sun Mar 20, 2016 12:03 am

I recently finished a DB rewatch and I couldn't seem to remember the part when Goku and everyone else learned to fly. Was it when Goku was training at Kami's place after he killed King Piccolo? Or was it some other time and I just can't remember it? Or was it just never really explained and we just accept that somewhere along the line, everyone learned how to fly?

If this really is mentioned somewhere and I just can't remember it then I'm gonna feel really dumb haha. Somebody please help me out here, it's really bugging the hell outta me. :evil:

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Re: When did the Z fighters learn to fly?

Post by Danfun64 » Sun Mar 20, 2016 1:06 am

Tien Shinhan and Chaozu knew how to fly at least sometime before the 22th Tenkaichi Tournament. King Piccolo/Kami/the Nameless Namekian learned how to fly centures before Goku met Bulma, and Piccolo (Jr) knew pretty much all the techniques his father knew. Goku learned how to fly sometime during his training with Kami and Popo. Krillin learned to fly at least sometime before the 23rd Tenkaichi Tournament. I'm not really sure when Yamcha learned to fly. Vegeta probably learned flight in his youth, sometime after the destruction of his home planet.
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Re: When did the Z fighters learn to fly?

Post by LordCrumb » Sun Mar 20, 2016 1:36 am

Goten and Videl are the only ones we actually get to see how they learn to fly, which happened during the Great Saiyaman episodes.

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Re: When did the Z fighters learn to fly?

Post by apex_pretador » Sun Mar 20, 2016 5:02 am

Tenshinhan and chiatzu: Learnt to fly / float in air with use of ki before their firt appearance.

Goku: Learnt to fly either in kami training or sometime between daimao's murder and 23rd TB.

Yamcha: Kami training while preparing for saiyans

Krillin: Before 23rd TB, after his revival.

Piccolo: Training for 23rd TB

Gohan: Piccolo training

Yajirobe & Roshi: Never bothered
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Re: When did the Z fighters learn to fly?

Post by Vijay » Sun Mar 20, 2016 5:43 am

Tien & Chiaotzu are ONLY characters shown display flying (thx to Tsuru Sennin's School)

Rest all learnt somewhere 23rd Tenkaichi Budoukai ~ BoZ

Though there are some valuable filler episodes (by FAR most golden filler segments of DragonBall series) where Tien, Chiotzu, Yamucha & Krillin embark on mission to climb Karin Tower (pre-23rd TB) . Sometime during their journey (DB ep 130-133) they settle in a village where violent volcanic eruption occurs & it was upon our 4 Horsemen to save the mura (village).

At that time, Krillin & Yamcha lost their footing (with the former nearly his life) due to the violent ewryhquake. Tien suggested both of them to learn bukujutsu.

I guess its at this point both of them decided to learn flying. I know its filler. But as you look back, some of these events/moments tend to feel special. Nothing like some good slice-of-life episodes

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Re: When did the Z fighters learn to fly?

Post by Gaffer Tape » Sun Mar 20, 2016 9:21 am

Since we don't see exactly WHEN characters learn to fly (except Goten and Videl), and we can only give educated guesses, here is when we first SEE characters fly:

Tenshinhan and Chaozu: Goku and Kuririn notice them levitating above the wall to watch the Jackie Chun versus Man Wolf fight and comment on how this means out of bounds losses will be a bit harder to come by.

Piccolo: Daimao flies down from his ship to confront Goku. The second Piccolo spends much of his time watching the tournament from the roof and then levitates down for his match with Kuririn.

Kuririn: During his fight with Ma Junior, Kuririn gets knocked out of bounds but stops himself by levitating. So it's presumed he learned it at some point in the prior three years.

Goku: Same with Kuririn. He surprises everyone with Bukujutsu in his fight with Ma Junior to knock him out of bounds, so it's presumed he learned it during the past three years.

Yamucha: We first see Yamucha fly when he arrives to fight the Saiyans. So it's anyone's guess when he learned it. Did he and Kuririn learn it at the same time, and he never got a chance to show it off? Did he learn it during the five year gap before Raditz? Or did he learn it in the year training for the Saiyans?

Gohan: Gohan first flies after Goku saves him and Kuririn from Vegeta killing Nappa. Goku just lets go of his son and assumes he can fly. Apparently he's right. Gohan must have learned this while training with Piccolo.
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Re: When did the Z fighters learn to fly?

Post by DemonRin » Sun Mar 20, 2016 12:33 pm

It was always interesting to me how when Tenshinhan and Chaozu show up and start flying, it's treated like a big(ish) deal and even has a technique name and everything ("Bukujutsu") but then, after the 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai, it stops being an impressive thing and it just becomes assumed that everyone has the potential to do it and everyone but a few characters just learn it off screen at some point. I know the basics of it came back when Gohan was teaching Videl, but it's funny that we have that huge stretch after the 22nd Budokai up to the 25th Budokai where Bukujutsu is just treated as this normal mundane thing lol.

Also, as stated above by most, we only get explicit mentions of Tenshinhan and Choazu having learned it sometime prior to the 22nd Budokai, we know most/all of the rest of the cast couldn't do it at this point since, again, they made a deal out of it then, and with the exception of Goten and Videl MUCH later, we can surmise based on the first time everyone else used it approximately when they might have learned it off screen, but I think it's just assumed they practiced and figured it out on their own or sought out someone to teach them how. I mean, remember how Goku learning the Kamehameha was played for laughs because it was hyped up as this hard thing to do that took Kamesen'in decades to master, and then he literally just saw it performed once and somehow picked it up immediately?

I somehow assume Goku just saw Ten do it, and as soon as he had a moment to practice after the tournament, just practiced and got it down over the course of an afternoon sometime lol.
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Re: When did the Z fighters learn to fly?

Post by apex_pretador » Sun Mar 20, 2016 2:35 pm

DemonRin wrote:It was always interesting to me how when Tenshinhan and Chaozu show up and start flying, it's treated like a big(ish) deal and even has a technique name and everything ("Bukujutsu") but then, after the 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai, it stops being an impressive thing and it just becomes assumed that everyone has the potential to do it and everyone but a few characters just learn it off screen at some point. I know the basics of it came back when Gohan was teaching Videl, but it's funny that we have that huge stretch after the 22nd Budokai up to the 25th Budokai where Bukujutsu is just treated as this normal mundane thing lol.


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I think the technique gohan taught was much superior to the flight technique tien & chautzu introduced in 22nd TB.
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Re: When did the Z fighters learn to fly?

Post by Kuririn Fan » Sun Mar 20, 2016 5:34 pm

It's the same thing - Bukujutsu. Even though Piccolo says to Goku my flying is better than yours, but whatever.

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Re: When did the Z fighters learn to fly?

Post by SSJSonGokuu » Sun Mar 20, 2016 8:17 pm

apex_pretador wrote:Tenshinhan and chiatzu: Learnt to fly / float in air with use of ki before their firt appearance.

Goku: Learnt to fly either in kami training or sometime between daimao's murder and 23rd TB.

Yamcha: Kami training while preparing for saiyans

Krillin: Before 23rd TB, after his revival.

Piccolo: Training for 23rd TB

Gohan: Piccolo training

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Gohan: Piccolo chucks him as a infant at a rocky mountain.
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