"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[ChronoTwigger]

That part where he forced someone stronger than him to resort to cheating in order to win, which everyone enjoys ignoring so they can piss and moan. This is like Gohan all over again. Unless he's farting someone else out of existence, then his treatment is absolutely unacceptable.

No, this isn't like Gohan at all. Gohan got Cell and he got Mystic and he was still considered the best of the old cast aside from Goku and Vegeta.

What has Piccolo ever gotten besides Raditz and being a glorified babysitter?

Piccolo is A SIDE CHARACTER. He was beaten by kid Goku with no special powers at all. Face the truth. Accept to be in the Yamcha squad. Gohan was the main character for half DBZ.

[namekiansaiyan]

That part where he forced someone stronger than him to resort to cheating in order to win, which everyone enjoys ignoring so they can piss and moan. This is like Gohan all over again. Unless he's farting someone else out of existence, then his treatment is absolutely unacceptable.

No, this isn't like Gohan at all. Gohan got Cell and he got Mystic and he was still considered the best of the old cast aside from Goku and Vegeta.

What has Piccolo ever gotten besides Raditz and being a glorified babysitter?

Piccolo is A SIDE CHARACTER. He was beaten by kid Goku with no special powers at all. Face the truth. Accept to be in the Yamcha squad. Gohan was the main character for half DBZ.

If you think Piccolo is a side character then you have not watched or read dragonball.

[Duo]

If you think Piccolo is a side character then you have not watched or read dragonball.

There is no need to be rude. So don't be.

Piccolo spent time as a central player, but to say he isn't a side character would not be accurate to the Buu arc and the other more recent materials. Beyond that, he didn't make it to the end of the Saiyan arc alive, sat out for most of Namek with just one major moment, and ended up totally sidelined by the Cell game.

Being a side character is not an insult.

[omaro34]

If you think Piccolo is a side character then you have not watched or read dragonball.

There is no need to be rude. So don't be.

Piccolo spent time as a central player, but to say he isn't a side character would not be accurate to the Buu arc and the other more recent materials. Beyond that, he didn't make it to the end of the Saiyan arc alive, sat out for most of Namek with just one major moment, and ended up totally sidelined by the Cell game.

Being a side character is not an insult.

Absolutely its not an insult. Not to mention he was the main antagonist in Dragonball, and his fight with Goku is arguably one of the best fights in the entire series.

I thought I was a big Piccolo fan, but this brother takes the cake.

[ZombieVito]

Calling Piccolo a side character in the Boo arc is laughable.

He was important in the latter parts of the arc.

[pacz360]

Lol at piccolo getting respect he was treated like shit from his companions .

[eledoremassis02]

It's a promotion for the anime, it has nothing to do with the original manga.

Yes and no. I'd argue it's a squeal to the manga while promoting the squeal to the anime. I mean, Gregory has yet to show up (when he was established in Super). Once he shows up I think it's safe to say then it's 100% anime promo with no relation to the manga.

[Kuririn Fan]

It's a promotion for the anime, it has nothing to do with the original manga.

Yes and no. I'd argue it's a squeal to the manga while promoting the squeal to the anime. I mean, Gregory has yet to show up (when he was established in Super). Once he shows up I think it's safe to say then it's 100% anime promo with no relation to the manga.

It's not a sequel. It's a promotion - nothing more, nothing less.

[Miracles]

That part where he forced someone stronger than him to resort to cheating in order to win, which everyone enjoys ignoring so they can piss and moan. This is like Gohan all over again. Unless he's farting someone else out of existence, then his treatment is absolutely unacceptable.

No, this isn't like Gohan at all. Gohan got Cell and he got Mystic and he was still considered the best of the old cast aside from Goku and Vegeta.

What has Piccolo ever gotten besides Raditz and being a glorified babysitter?

Piccolo is A SIDE CHARACTER......

A main villain in Dragonball, rival to Goku, tag team against Radditz, fought second and third-form Freeza as the strongest among the main cast in Namek, fought imperfect Cell, fought android 17. I don't want to mention how many times Goku and Gohan would have died without this main caster.

[MajinMan]

The way I define the term "side character" is that a side character is a character that's important to the story, but isn't the overall focus. The only true main character in my eyes is Son Goku. Note that side characters aren't "minor characters," which are characters that play minimal roles. And yes, I do think Vegeta is a side character in DBS just like Piccolo is, but at the same time I'm taking the entire Dragon Ball story into consideration, not just individual arcs/anime.

[generalred3]

[quote="Zephyr"
Piccolo is A SIDE CHARACTER......

A main villain in Dragonball, rival to Goku, tag team against Radditz, fought second and third-form Freeza as the strongest among the main cast in Namek, fought imperfect Cell, fought android 17. I don't want to mention how many times Goku and Gohan would have died without this main caster.

Agreed. He was definitely a major player in those sagas. However once he was turned into stone in the Majin Buu saga he was definitely demoted to a side character. That doesn't mean he is a side character forever. Realistically, everyone turns into a side character at some point in the show. But they get brought right back into the spot light and become major characters again. After Dabura was killed Piccolo became more of a major character again by helping to train Goten and Trunks. But at this point in the series, if you aren't a saiyan then you are pretty much a secondary character. BOGs saga he seemed to be a secondary character considering he just stood there like everyone else while Goku fought. In RoF he had a much bigger role coming back into the lime light participating in the fight and dying. Now in the Tournament arc I would definitely consider him a main character with Goku and Vegeta. Sure he isn't getting much screen time or a victory but he is still right next to the 2 main characters and his presence is just as important. Just my 2 cents anyway.

[LowRyder2005]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supporting_character

[ParkerAL]

You know, I don't think I've ever heard of a manga that has to worry about an anime passing it. I wonder how Toyotaro will bridge the gap with the next chapter?

I could see Vegeta vs Frost taking up only three pages in the manga. Toyotaro could also abridge the Magetta fight like he did with the Frost vs Piccolo one. But that still wouldn't give him many pages to work with for adapting Vegeta's fight with Cabba. And then I'm worried he'll have to leave out neat plot details like Beerus keeping a secret about Monoka and Hit confronting Frost.

It seems no matter what version of Super you prefer, it's bound to be a frustrating experience...

[alakazam^]

You know, I don't think I've ever heard of a manga that has to worry about an anime passing it. I wonder how Toyotaro will bridge the gap with the next chapter?

I could see Vegeta vs Frost taking up only three pages in the manga. Toyotaro could also abridge the Magetta fight like he did with the Frost vs Piccolo one. But that still wouldn't give him many pages to work with for adapting Vegeta's fight with Cabba. And then I'm worried he'll have to leave out neat plot details like Beerus keeping a secret about Monoka and Hit confronting Frost.

It seems no matter what version of Super you prefer, it's bound to be a frustrating experience...

Hit will already be fighting by the time the next chapter comes out.

[Swifticuffs]

Aren't you guys tired about arguing over the "Goku and Vegeta Show"? Or whether or not Piccolo is a side character? We have tons of new characters, some strong and some not, with unique abilities, a new story unfolding, and different adaptations through manga and anime. Just enjoy. I enjoy every week. There are things I don't agree with, but whining over them really won't change anything. The creators are going to do what they think is best for making money, is all.

That said, Piccolo is a great character, always has been... he may have been reduced to a side roll now, however you define side roll, but he's still cool as hell. I feel we'll be seeing a bunch of him as the series carries on.

Remember we all love Dragonball; that should be enough reason not to argue, right?

[namekiansaiyan]

Aren't you guys tired about arguing over the "Goku and Vegeta Show"? Or whether or not Piccolo is a side character or not? We have tons of new characters, some strong and some not, with unique abilities, a new story unfolding, and different adaptations through manga and anime. Just enjoy. I enjoy every week. There are things I don't agree with, but whining over them really won't change anything. The creators are going to do what they think is best for making money, is all.

That said, Piccolo is a great character, always has been... he may have been reduced to a side roll now, however you define side roll, but he's still cool as hell. I feel we'll be seeing a bunch of him as the series carries on.

Remember we all love Dragonball; that should be enough reason not to argue, right?

Well arguing is a form of discussion.

[Swifticuffs]

Aren't you guys tired about arguing over the "Goku and Vegeta Show"? Or whether or not Piccolo is a side character or not? We have tons of new characters, some strong and some not, with unique abilities, a new story unfolding, and different adaptations through manga and anime. Just enjoy. I enjoy every week. There are things I don't agree with, but whining over them really won't change anything. The creators are going to do what they think is best for making money, is all.

That said, Piccolo is a great character, always has been... he may have been reduced to a side roll now, however you define side roll, but he's still cool as hell. I feel we'll be seeing a bunch of him as the series carries on.

Remember we all love Dragonball; that should be enough reason not to argue, right?

Well arguing is a form of discussion.

Believe me, I'm far from wanting to not spark discussion. So maybe you're right. But I see many posts in every episode thread or here constantly by 3-5 users about "Goku and Vegeta Show" or just trolling each other over stance on Piccolo / Gohan. Just sees like a big time eater to me.

That said, I read an "unofficial" translation of chapter 10... Herms is normally the most reliable; phenomenal translating, at that. Anyone have any info on a reliable translation or notes? If I overlooked it, I apologize.

[namekiansaiyan]

Aren't you guys tired about arguing over the "Goku and Vegeta Show"? Or whether or not Piccolo is a side character or not? We have tons of new characters, some strong and some not, with unique abilities, a new story unfolding, and different adaptations through manga and anime. Just enjoy. I enjoy every week. There are things I don't agree with, but whining over them really won't change anything. The creators are going to do what they think is best for making money, is all.

That said, Piccolo is a great character, always has been... he may have been reduced to a side roll now, however you define side roll, but he's still cool as hell. I feel we'll be seeing a bunch of him as the series carries on.

Remember we all love Dragonball; that should be enough reason not to argue, right?

Well arguing is a form of discussion.

Believe me, I'm far from wanting to not spark discussion. So maybe you're right. But I see many posts in every episode thread or here constantly by 3-5 users about "Goku and Vegeta Show" or just trolling each other over stance on Piccolo / Gohan. Just sees like a big time eater to me.

That said, I read an "unofficial" translation of chapter 10... Herms is normally the most reliable; phenomenal translating, at that. Anyone have any info on a reliable translation or notes? If I overlooked it, I apologize.

I have not seen a full translation yet and I am surprised there is not one yet as it has been a week.

[Ajay]

I don't think anyone on 2ch bothered to post the full text since it's all content we've seen already. Herms or Alakazam tend to just go through those line by line and translate them. The Japanese raws haven't even gone up in the usual places either, so there's nowhere for anyone to look unless you have the magazine to hand.

[alakazam^]

One user posted the text but the majority of it is pretty much the same as the anime episode.