After this interview, would you like other studio for Super?

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Post by Soppa Saia People » Wed Mar 16, 2016 7:14 pm

soppa saia people wrote: It's a story primarily written for children
This doesn't negate anything I've stated.
That wasn't my point. My point is that looking to far into it for a children's story.
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Post by Cursemark505 » Thu Mar 17, 2016 9:57 pm

soppa saia people wrote:
soppa saia people wrote: It's a story primarily written for children
This doesn't negate anything I've stated.
That wasn't my point. My point is that looking to far into it for a children's story.
That's a weak argument as to why it can't be criticised. Dragon ball was not even written for small children like you're implying.

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Fri Mar 18, 2016 12:57 am

Toriyama mention that he wrote the manga with younger children in mind.
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Post by Soppa Saia People » Fri Mar 18, 2016 1:16 am

Cursemark505 wrote:
soppa saia people wrote:
soppa saia people wrote: It's a story primarily written for children
This doesn't negate anything I've stated.
That wasn't my point. My point is that looking to far into it for a children's story.
That's a weak argument as to why it can't be criticised. Dragon ball was not even written for small children like you're implying.
There's a different between criticism (ie Gaffer's DB dissection) and looking to far into something. Do you really kids care about retcons ?
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Post by Kuririn Fan » Fri Mar 18, 2016 1:17 am

commenting on Dragon Ball's global success, Toriyama admitted, "Frankly, I don't quite understand why it happened. While the manga was being serialized, the only thing I wanted as I kept drawing was to make Japanese boys happy."Speaking of his manga in general, he said, "The role of my manga is to be a work of entertainment through and through. I dare say I don't care even if [my works] have left nothing behind, as long as they have entertained their readers."

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Post by Cursemark505 » Fri Mar 18, 2016 1:45 am

soppa saia people wrote: There's a different between criticism (ie Gaffer's DB dissection) and looking to far into something. Do you really kids care about retcons ?
I'm not looking to far into anything. Someone made the claim that Dragon ball was well written when I said that it never had the greatest story. I merely corrected them on that.

There's a difference between criticism & looking too far into something? What you're saying makes no sense.

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Re: After this interview, would you like other studio for Su

Post by Kakarotto92 » Fri Mar 18, 2016 8:05 am

Cursemark505 wrote: Dragon ball has always had a poorly written story.
Just because it has a simple and straightforward plot, doesn't mean it's poorly written.

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Fri Mar 18, 2016 2:33 pm

Dragon Ball has more to it than just fighting. I still think having amazing fight scenes with a bad story won't be enough since GT and most of the older DBZ films had decent animation but with good fights. Not to mention having a simple plot is not a bad thing. I mean Die Hard is a simple action movie and people call it a masterpiece. It just about a cop tries to save his wife and several others that were taken hostage by German terrorist on Christmas day and that's it. Same with Fury Road which has a simple and straightforward plot, but everyone loves it.
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Re: After this interview, would you like other studio for Su

Post by Kuririn Fan » Fri Mar 18, 2016 2:52 pm

GT had good fights?

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Post by Ajay » Fri Mar 18, 2016 2:57 pm

Kuririn Fan wrote:GT had good fights?
Yes. Quite a few, actually. Back in the good ol' days when Shimanuki produced excellent work.

Most of the arcs had many decent action moments.
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Post by Kuririn Fan » Fri Mar 18, 2016 3:04 pm

Ajay wrote:
Kuririn Fan wrote:GT had good fights?
Yes. Quite a few, actually. Back in the good ol' days when Shimanuki produced excellent work.

Most of the arcs had many decent action moments.
Compared to Super garbage definitely, but overall nah. They were missing that Toriyama manga guidance.

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Post by dbzfan7 » Fri Mar 18, 2016 3:09 pm

Ajay wrote:
Kuririn Fan wrote:GT had good fights?
Yes. Quite a few, actually. Back in the good ol' days when Shimanuki produced excellent work.

Most of the arcs had many decent action moments.
Sometimes I forget just how decent to good GT can get from fights, and the occasional bad here and there. Those were sweet. If only Super could have more of that, and less of being shit.
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Post by ekrolo2 » Fri Mar 18, 2016 3:12 pm

I'd cite Goku vs Nuova & Eise as another good GT fight. While the actual choreography might not be great, in a fairly short amount of time it gets you really invested in both Shadow Dragons with Nuova a more honorable guy you want to see stick around and Eise a great scumbag you want to see die in spectacular fashion (which he does). I certainly gave more of a fuck about that fight than anything from Super or hell, most of the post Namek fights in Z.
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Post by sintzu » Fri Mar 18, 2016 3:37 pm

Kuririn Fan wrote:GT had good fights?
GT's production as a whole is pretty good.
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Re: After this interview, would you like other studio for Su

Post by Blade » Fri Mar 18, 2016 3:44 pm

Ajay wrote:
Kuririn Fan wrote:GT had good fights?
Yes. Quite a few, actually. Back in the good ol' days when Shimanuki produced excellent work.

Most of the arcs had many decent action moments.
Man, it still frustrates me how much Toei jacked up the ending of that Gohan/Goten vs Vegeta fight. The whole possessed brotherly-red-and-blue-double-team-titty-twister was such a corny conclusion. It sort of epitomises GT for me - all of the great moments are always rounded out to really underwhelming conclusions.
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Re: After this interview, would you like other studio for Su

Post by TheShadowEmperor8055 » Tue Mar 22, 2016 8:34 pm

coola wrote:After i've read this interview, I'm honestly mortified with how bad Toei treat DB series, they produce way too many series, soon we will have Sailor Moon Crystal Season 3 as well, and their director even have nerve to tell people, that we dare to complain, at this point, i really would prefer some other studio to pick up Super, like Madhouse http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/feature ... all/.99269
Madhouse would be nice. What they've done with One Punch Man is really amazing and memorable. What Toei has done with Dragon Ball so far is really ugh. But to be practical, nothing will really change, unfortunately... :/

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Re: After this interview, would you like other studio for Su

Post by Hellspawn28 » Wed Mar 23, 2016 7:57 pm

I would take Tatsunoko for Dragon Ball if Toei did lose the rights for Dragon Ball. Mad House is great, but I'm not sure if they can capture the feel of Dragon Ball. Dragon Ball should have a colorful feel to it and still feel like a show for kids. Toei makes colorful looking shows which is why they are pick for Dragon Ball. They rarely make anime for adults expect for 3x3 Eyes, Psychic Wars and Crying Freeman and while MadHouse does shows for teens & adults expect for Stitch. Tatsunoko to me could pull off the feel of Dragon Ball. I still want Dragon Ball to feel and look like Dragon Ball.
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Re: After this interview, would you like other studio for Su

Post by Soppa Saia People » Wed Mar 23, 2016 8:47 pm

Cursemark505 wrote:
soppa saia people wrote: There's a different between criticism (ie Gaffer's DB dissection) and looking to far into something. Do you really kids care about retcons ?
I'm not looking to far into anything. Someone made the claim that Dragon ball was well written when I said that it never had the greatest story. I merely corrected them on that.

There's a difference between criticism & looking too far into something? What you're saying makes no sense.
(Damn late response on my part). I see your point, but I respectful disagree. You can criticize something and at the same time not looking to far into it. (Especially for a stupid kids show. BTW I most likely won't response as I don't really care.)
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Re: After this interview, would you like other studio for Su

Post by TheShadowEmperor8055 » Wed Mar 23, 2016 10:29 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:I would take Tatsunoko for Dragon Ball if Toei did lose the rights for Dragon Ball. Mad House is great, but I'm not sure if they can capture the feel of Dragon Ball. Dragon Ball should have a colorful feel to it and still feel like a show for kids. Toei makes colorful looking shows which is why they are pick for Dragon Ball. They rarely make anime for adults expect for 3x3 Eyes, Psychic Wars and Crying Freeman and while MadHouse does shows for teens & adults expect for Stitch. Tatsunoko to me could pull off the feel of Dragon Ball. I still want Dragon Ball to feel and look like Dragon Ball.
Tatsunoko, huh? Hmm.... that's not my strong suit at all, lol. What anime do they produce?

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TheShadowEmperor8055 wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote:I would take Tatsunoko for Dragon Ball if Toei did lose the rights for Dragon Ball. Mad House is great, but I'm not sure if they can capture the feel of Dragon Ball. Dragon Ball should have a colorful feel to it and still feel like a show for kids. Toei makes colorful looking shows which is why they are pick for Dragon Ball. They rarely make anime for adults expect for 3x3 Eyes, Psychic Wars and Crying Freeman and while MadHouse does shows for teens & adults expect for Stitch. Tatsunoko to me could pull off the feel of Dragon Ball. I still want Dragon Ball to feel and look like Dragon Ball.
Tatsunoko, huh? Hmm.... that's not my strong suit at all, lol. What anime do they produce?
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