"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Araki » Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:19 am

Xeztin wrote:In the version I read, Toriyama wanted Toyotaro to have his own input on the story.
He has been doing that already, Toyotaro says he's allowed to expand the plot and do his own thing (which ruins those claims that the manga was more faithful to Toriyama's story, everything happening there were his ideas, yada yada).
Although i doubt we'd ever see a Toyotaro character making any major appearance like that. The interviewer (and Toriyama) most likely were just being polite to him.

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:44 am

Didn't the Dragon Ball Super: Start Guide hint that villains other than Freeza may return, using Ginyu & Cell as examples? Eventually, Ginyu really did return in Super.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by shinmaru » Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:03 am

I'm very happy with this new info. I always wanted a white Super Saiyan that resembles this a little
much better than blue.
And I always had a feeling that Toyotaro will slowly get more involved with the story. Anyways, I think Trunks will come back as a time patroler and the new white haired enemy is maybe Mira, but I hope it isn't

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by emi_b7 » Tue Apr 05, 2016 4:02 am

Damn, now everybody is claiming we will have a white haired transformation soon when that's not what Toriyama said, I hate when things like that happen. White hair does look good though.
I'm not happy with a Cell or Trunks return, those are good characters but I can't think of a way to make one of them come back that wouldn't look forced or unnecessary.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by sintzu » Tue Apr 05, 2016 4:29 am

emi_b7 wrote:Damn, now everybody is claiming we will have a white haired transformation soon when that's not what Toriyama said, I hate when things like that happen.
"First I was going to have it be white, but that would clash with the 'next enemy', so I saved it for later."

"I saved it for later" means he has plans to introduce it later down the line.
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Tue Apr 05, 2016 5:07 am

Just because you save something for later, it doesn't guarantee that you'll get back around to using it.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by namekiansaiyan » Tue Apr 05, 2016 5:51 am

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:Just because you save something for later, it doesn't guarantee that you'll get back around to using it.
To stop this confusion Toriyama should not have said that he is saving it for later.

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Post by MozillaVulpix » Tue Apr 05, 2016 5:59 am

I think when Toriyama says "later", he more means "maybe 3 or 4 years from now." Anyway, isn't the whole point that he doesn't like doing what everyone expects? The new Super Saiyan form being a new recolour IS what we'd expect after SSG and SSGSS.

Basically, I'd expect new forms (if there will be more) to be variations on SSGSS somehow, most likely keeping the blue hair or at least the blue aura. We'd only get a new recolour once that started getting old.
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Post by HeroR » Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:28 am

Araki wrote:
Xeztin wrote:In the version I read, Toriyama wanted Toyotaro to have his own input on the story.
He has been doing that already, Toyotaro says he's allowed to expand the plot and do his own thing (which ruins those claims that the manga was more faithful to Toriyama's story, everything happening there were his ideas, yada yada).
Although i doubt we'd ever see a Toyotaro character making any major appearance like that. The interviewer (and Toriyama) most likely were just being polite to him.
Toyotaro has been putting his own spin on things before Super. If you look at the promotional mange for Resurrection 'F' it has more than few differences between it and the movie. Although, most of the changes were to save time and keep the plot moving.

I am not completely sure Toriyama is going to be making new Super Saiyan forms, at least not in the way we're thinking. He seems steadfast when he said that Goku only needs his base and Super Saiyan forms to becoming stronger, not ascending to Super Saiyan 8 or several upgraded versions of Super Saiyan God. I give Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan a pass since it is just Super Saiyan merged with god energy. When he says he's saving white Super Saiyan for later, it could easily mean another character, an idea for a transformation for someone else, or he may never use it. I am personally a fan of Goku and Vegeta just making their base stronger along with using the mutated version of Super Saiyan God instead of going the Super Saiyan numbers route again.

I am mixed about Future Trunks returning, if that is who Toyotaro's was hinting at. His story is done and I can't think of any reason why he would return to the main timeline, especially since he is the sole defender of his own world. If he does returns, it better be for a good reason, otherwise he is just glorified fan service.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Dragon Ball Ireland » Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:38 am

MozillaVulpix wrote:Basically, I'd expect new forms (if there will be more) to be variations on SSGSS somehow, most likely keeping the blue hair or at least the blue aura. We'd only get a new recolour once that started getting old.
Hopefully not, we don't need any new SS/SSG transformations. What Super needs moving forward is more strategic fighting.

I don't mind Trunks or Cell coming back as long as there's a justifiable reason for it.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by dodonpa » Tue Apr 05, 2016 8:54 am

Back when BoG came out, Toriyama said that he chose red for SSG because it has a stronger vibe than blue. We know what happened years later... Althought this doesn't mean the same will happen again.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Hellspawn28 » Tue Apr 05, 2016 9:08 am

SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:Isn't Xicor one those guys from Toyotao's AF ? He's pretty popular in the internet especially before BOG becomes a thing,but i doubt many japanese kids know him.The guy that fits very well with "character from the future" hint is Future Trunks.He's been in Xenoverse,Heroes,Kai etc lately,so he's probably popular to the kids.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Lum-Chan~ » Tue Apr 05, 2016 10:05 am

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Just like Dragon Ball since Chapter #4.
Toriyama was a much more talented writer than these people will ever hope to be however and he had years of experience writing Dr Slump as he went along to aid him as well.

Not the same thing at all.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by emi_b7 » Tue Apr 05, 2016 5:38 pm

sintzu wrote:
emi_b7 wrote:Damn, now everybody is claiming we will have a white haired transformation soon when that's not what Toriyama said, I hate when things like that happen.
"First I was going to have it be white, but that would clash with the 'next enemy', so I saved it for later."

"I saved it for later" means he has plans to introduce it later down the line.
No, he was basicly saying "I planned on using white, but but it would clash with the next enemy, so maybe another time". He isn't "planning" to introduce it anytime soon. It may happen at some point, but he was totally not saying it was about to happen now.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Overlord78 » Tue Apr 05, 2016 5:42 pm

Well hopefully when/ if they introduce a new transformation it looks different and original. I don't want it to be just another colour swap or maybe I'm just asking for too much here.

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Post by kinisking » Tue Apr 05, 2016 5:48 pm

Lol do people think color swaps are any more unoriginal than just increasing hair length? People still can't tell the difference between ssj1 and ssj2 sometimes.
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Post by SansrivaaL » Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:46 am

I dont mind a recolor as long as the aura is different again, SSJG and SSJB had a somewhat different aura with Blue having some white sparks going on in it. I hope white comes out despite it only being a what if for him, white is so much better than blue.

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Post by Chuquita » Wed Apr 06, 2016 2:00 am

New episode title/summaries should be appearing any day now via NewType! I'm so excited. ( * _ * ) I hope King Ryû shows up for some more episode scripts. I miss Fukushima too, but at least I can guess when he'll reappear based on him usually doing the transitional episodes; I have no way to guess with King Ryû.
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Post by Retan » Wed Apr 06, 2016 2:12 am

yeah I'm excited about King Ryu returning soon too chuquita. Not that they really needed him for the tournament, as that's more on who wins and how, then story, could be wrong though. Also excited about seeing the future episode titles. :D Especially wanna know what happens to Vegeta, is he just defeated, or something worse :o . :lol:

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Black_Liger » Wed Apr 06, 2016 2:14 am

Sandubadear wrote:
Black_Liger wrote:I was thinking.... Doesn't Hit look JUST like Fu (Towa and Miira's son)? Just put in ear pads which could be artificial and BAM... that would tie Miira and Towa into the story and Hit is a major on Uni 6 just as fu is supposed to be a big influence when he grows up. The fact that he can go toe to toe with a super saiyan blood could be from a demon blood lineage with his parents.


Just a wild theory... and this would also mean we have a baby pic of Hit xD
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