The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta » Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:21 am

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LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:Everyone Vs Piccolo right after he cheap shotted Goku during the countdown. It kills Goku, they're all that's left.
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Judging from Piccolo's confidence when it looked like Goku qctually did die, I'd say he would still win. It wouldn't be that easy, especially with God there, but I think Piccolo would eventually come out on top in the end.
But he DID have that same confidence when Goku was beating him up too. Kind of like Buuhan Vs Vegito, I think it was Bravo. He'd put up a good fight, but their power + their skill and teamwork would secure a tough win for em.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by apex_pretador » Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:25 am

LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:
TBH, it also has power level fest, although it did focus on technique too. All main focus was becoming stronger - Roshi training, karin training , god water, Tien's training etc. However, somethings like Mafuba, flying etc are beyond power levels.


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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta » Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:33 am

Broly

Broly

Cell

Cell (Bojack Green was stil lfended off by ssj1 gohan even with the help of his hench men, only won by being cheap as heck.)

Bojack

Bojack

Cell Jrs. Without teaming up and ganging on people they're nothing.

Broly and Bojack win with ease.

Good list.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by In Brightest Day » Wed Apr 06, 2016 4:18 am

A couple of random fights:

- LSSJ Broli (Second Coming) vs. Mr. Boo.
- LSSJ Broli (Second Coming) vs. Kibitoshin.
- Dabra vs. Piccolo (ROF).
- Ginyu Force vs. Krillin and Tenshinhan (both Android arc, no Ki-Ko-Ho).
- Mercenary Tao vs. Son Goku (pre- Karin training), Jackie Chun, Nam, Krillin, Yamcha (all RRA arc).
- Shisami (RoF) vs. SSJ Vegeta (Cell Games).

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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In Brightest Day wrote:A couple of random fights:

- LSSJ Broli (Second Coming) vs. Mr. Boo.
- LSSJ Broli (Second Coming) vs. Kibitoshin.
- Dabra vs. Piccolo (ROF).
- Ginyu Force vs. Krillin and Tenshinhan (both Android arc, no Ki-Ko-Ho).
- Mercenary Tao vs. Son Goku (pre- Karin training), Jackie Chun, Nam, Krillin, Yamcha (all RRA arc).
- Shisami (RoF) vs. SSJ Vegeta (Cell Games).
Broly should take it with some trouble-
Broly stomps.
Hmmm....Dabura probably.
I'm gonna say either of the humans can solo, I don't know why everyone thinks they're so weak.
Dunno much about dragon ball strength wise so....pass?
Shisami was fighting pretty evenly with Piccolo so unless the namekian has gotten drastically weaker Shisami should have a pretty good chance, although vegeta is a lot more skill imo, Hmmm....60/40 in Vegeta's favor.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Khin » Wed Apr 06, 2016 7:54 am

In Brightest Day wrote:A couple of random fights:

- LSSJ Broli (Second Coming) vs. Mr. Boo.
- LSSJ Broli (Second Coming) vs. Kibitoshin.
- Dabra vs. Piccolo (ROF).
- Ginyu Force vs. Krillin and Tenshinhan (both Android arc, no Ki-Ko-Ho).
- Mercenary Tao vs. Son Goku (pre- Karin training), Jackie Chun, Nam, Krillin, Yamcha (all RRA arc).
- Shisami (RoF) vs. SSJ Vegeta (Cell Games).
  • Broli dies a horrible death.
  • Kibitoshin wins after a hard battle.
  • If Gohan was really a Super Saiyan against Dabra.Piccolo one shots.
  • Kuririn solos.
  • Tao stomps everyone in his path.
  • If this is movie Shisami,he wrecks Vegeta.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta » Wed Apr 06, 2016 9:20 am

In Brightest Day wrote:A couple of random fights:

- LSSJ Broli (Second Coming) vs. Mr. Boo.
- LSSJ Broli (Second Coming) vs. Kibitoshin.
- Dabra vs. Piccolo (ROF).
- Ginyu Force vs. Krillin and Tenshinhan (both Android arc, no Ki-Ko-Ho).
- Mercenary Tao vs. Son Goku (pre- Karin training), Jackie Chun, Nam, Krillin, Yamcha (all RRA arc).
- Shisami (RoF) vs. SSJ Vegeta (Cell Games).
Broly wins. MR. Buu is les then half of normal fat buu, who was twice the power of ssj2 tournament saga gohan.....and that gohan didn't make broly even FLINCH. Broly can 1 shot this.

Broly wins easier then he did in movie 8's first round.

Hard to tell because he seams really nerfed in the movie. It's hard to tell if he's gotten stronger and that's just a strong guy, or he's gotten weaker. If he never stopped training he'd win easily by Z logic, can't really use the movie. It makes him look like he's nappa level ...or lower -_-

Tien and Krillin slaughter

mercenary Tao wins.

Again herd to say because the bad writing, but if piccolo never got weaker then .....yeah Vegeta loses hard.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DanielSSJ » Wed Apr 06, 2016 9:57 am

In Brightest Day wrote:A couple of random fights:

- LSSJ Broli (Second Coming) vs. Mr. Boo.
- LSSJ Broli (Second Coming) vs. Kibitoshin.
- Dabra vs. Piccolo (ROF).
- Ginyu Force vs. Krillin and Tenshinhan (both Android arc, no Ki-Ko-Ho).
- Mercenary Tao vs. Son Goku (pre- Karin training), Jackie Chun, Nam, Krillin, Yamcha (all RRA arc).
- Shisami (RoF) vs. SSJ Vegeta (Cell Games).
- Boo wins. I actually don't think Boo lost any of his regular power during the split. It was his dormant anger-fueled power that got removed, in my opinion. Even if he did get weaker, his regeneration and infinite stamina more than makeup whatever power advantage Broly might have.
- Broly wins. Kibitoshin is, at best, on the high end of the Super Saiyan 2 tier in my mind, and his lack of skill and general incompetence makes him less effective. Broly crushes him.
- Dabra is a smidge stronger than regular Perfect Cell, whereas Piccolo isn't even as strong as CG Goku. Unless if Piccolo can land a Makankosappo, Dabra wins easily.
- I personally think that both Kuririn and Tenshinhan are both above Ginyu at this point. They sweep through the team.
- The only ones who can do anything against Tao Pai Pai at this point are Roshi and Goku. They have a small chance, if Roshi takes the lead in terms of strategizing, but their odds aren't looking good.
- I still think that Shisami only did as well as he did against Piccolo because Piccolo was worn out from fighting all of the fodder, and still could've won if Gohan hadn't interfered. Vegeta wrecks him.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by apex_pretador » Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:11 pm

LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:
Good list.
Thanks. Only one reply however so far :| :|
In Brightest Day wrote:A couple of random fights:

- LSSJ Broli (Second Coming) vs. Mr. Boo.
- LSSJ Broli (Second Coming) vs. Kibitoshin.
- Dabra vs. Piccolo (ROF).
- Ginyu Force vs. Krillin and Tenshinhan (both Android arc, no Ki-Ko-Ho).
- Mercenary Tao vs. Son Goku (pre- Karin training), Jackie Chun, Nam, Krillin, Yamcha (all RRA arc).
- Shisami (RoF) vs. SSJ Vegeta (Cell Games).
- Buu stomps
- Kibitoshin wins but with difficulty
- Dabra turns him to stone, then piccolo rips his arm , losing energy. Anyways, he can take piccolo without spit too IMO.
- Humans take this.
- All they need is a buff KHH and tao is done for, but can they? Yamcha , Nam & Krillin are fodder. Tao wins the majority I believe.
- RoF shisame couldn't be one-shot by piccolo who should be >= buu arc piccolo, who can 1-shot CG vegetrunks at the same time IMO.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by iop890 » Wed Apr 06, 2016 1:35 pm

South Kaioshin vs...

Semi-Perfect Cell
Perfect Cell
Super Perfect Cell
Dabura

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Post by Khin » Wed Apr 06, 2016 1:37 pm

iop890 wrote:South Kaioshin vs...

Semi-Perfect Cell
Perfect Cell
Super Perfect Cell
Dabura
South Kaioshin clears with ease.Pure Boo actually felt the need to absorb him which makes me think he was as strong as how he was portrayed in the anime filler.

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Post by ZombieVito » Wed Apr 06, 2016 6:57 pm

SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:
iop890 wrote:South Kaioshin vs...

Semi-Perfect Cell
Perfect Cell
Super Perfect Cell
Dabura
South Kaioshin clears with ease.Pure Boo actually felt the need to absorb him which makes me think he was as strong as how he was portrayed in the anime filler.
In the anime filler Boo toyed and one shotted him.

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Post by Khin » Wed Apr 06, 2016 6:59 pm

Zombie wrote:In the anime filler Boo toyed and one shotted him.
In the anime South Kaioshin was fighting evenly with Boo [Even ripped his arm].I doubt Boo would absorb someone for no reason whatsoever.

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Post by pacz360 » Wed Apr 06, 2016 8:08 pm

SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:
Zombie wrote:In the anime filler Boo toyed and one shotted him.
In the anime South Kaioshin was fighting evenly with Boo [Even ripped his arm].I doubt Boo would absorb someone for no reason whatsoever.
I agree while kid buu was superior to him however as you said he felt the need to absorb him unlike the first two he killed.

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Post by ZombieVito » Wed Apr 06, 2016 11:28 pm

SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:
Zombie wrote:In the anime filler Boo toyed and one shotted him.
In the anime South Kaioshin was fighting evenly with Boo [Even ripped his arm].I doubt Boo would absorb someone for no reason whatsoever.
Doesn't change the fact that he one shotted him though.

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Zombie wrote:
SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:
Zombie wrote:In the anime filler Boo toyed and one shotted him.
In the anime South Kaioshin was fighting evenly with Boo [Even ripped his arm].I doubt Boo would absorb someone for no reason whatsoever.
Doesn't change the fact that he one shotted him though.
An off guard kick to the back of the neck would mess you up even if you were close in strength to your opponent. Also, SK was still up and ready despite the devastating hit, and had already taken 2-3 other blows prior without injury. By definition, Buu couldn't have "one-shotted" him.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
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In Brightest Day wrote:A couple of random fights:

- LSSJ Broli (Second Coming) vs. Mr. Boo.
- LSSJ Broli (Second Coming) vs. Kibitoshin.
- Dabra vs. Piccolo (ROF).
- Ginyu Force vs. Krillin and Tenshinhan (both Android arc, no Ki-Ko-Ho).
- Mercenary Tao vs. Son Goku (pre- Karin training), Jackie Chun, Nam, Krillin, Yamcha (all RRA arc).
- Shisami (RoF) vs. SSJ Vegeta (Cell Games).
Buu stomps.
Kibitoshin wins after a tough battle.
Piccolo should be near SSJ2 level by Rof. He can't one shot Dabura but he beats him.
Kuririn and Tenshinhan, easily.
Jackie Chun tells the kids to stay back and he beats Tao after an epic martial arts bout.
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Post by Roronoa-pt » Thu Apr 07, 2016 5:21 am

New battles:

Gotenks ( base ) vs Cabba
Gohan ( after Piccolo's training, before U6 tournament ) vs SSJ Cabba
Frost ( 1st form ) vs SSJ Goten & SSJ Trunks

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Roronoa-pt wrote:New battles:

Gotenks ( base ) vs Cabba
Gohan ( after Piccolo's training, before U6 tournament ) vs SSJ Cabba
Frost ( 1st form ) vs SSJ Goten & SSJ Trunks
  • Cabba stomps horribly.SSj3 Gotenks ~ 1st form Freeza ~ Final Form Freeza ~ Base Vegeta [Champa Arc] ~ Base Cabba.
  • No way to tell.
  • Frost finger flicks the kids.
RandomGuy96 wrote:An off guard kick to the back of the neck would mess you up even if you were close in strength to your opponent. Also, SK was still up and ready despite the devastating hit, and had already taken 2-3 other blows prior without injury. By definition, Buu couldn't have "one-shotted" him.
Basically this.I'd say the gap between South Kaiosihn and Kid Buu was about the same as the gap between Good Buu and Kid Buu.

New Matches
- Grey Buu vs. Kid Buu
- Base Gotenks [Pre RoSaT] vs. Piccolo [Buu Arc]
- Base Gotenks [Pre RoSaT] vs. SSj Gotenks [Pre RoSaT]
- SSj3 Gotenks vs. Ultimate Gohan [Yes,Gotenks is weaker,but will the Kamikazee ghost work on Gohan ?]
- SSj2 Majin Vegeta [No Ki blasts] vs. Super Perfect Cell

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by apex_pretador » Thu Apr 07, 2016 8:58 am

iop890 wrote:South Kaioshin vs...

Semi-Perfect Cell
Perfect Cell
Super Perfect Cell
Dabura
One shots all.
Roronoa-pt wrote:New battles:

Gotenks ( base ) vs Cabba
Gohan ( after Piccolo's training, before U6 tournament ) vs SSJ Cabba
Frost ( 1st form ) vs SSJ Goten & SSJ Trunks
cabba one shots

Cabba one-shots

Frost needs a better challenge. He allows the kids to fuse and still one-shots SS gotenks.
SSJ3 Vegeta wrote: New Matches
- Grey Buu vs. Kid Buu
- Base Gotenks [Pre RoSaT] vs. Piccolo [Buu Arc]
- Base Gotenks [Pre RoSaT] vs. SSj Gotenks [Pre RoSaT]
- SSj3 Gotenks vs. Ultimate Gohan [Yes,Gotenks is weaker,but will the Kamikazee ghost work on Gohan ?]
- SSj2 Majin Vegeta [No Ki blasts] vs. Super Perfect Cell
- Replace skinny buu with fat buu in the battle and see the same result happen. Add goku and vegeta and still kid buu wins.
- Piccolo can survive him for 30 minutes IMO so that he can one-shot the kids after that.
- Base gotenks has POWER, SKILL, STAMINA advantage, so it is clear IMO.
- Gohan wins due to better stamina and SGK is overrated as hell.
- Majin vegeta beats him to death, literally.

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