"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by alakazam^ » Wed Apr 06, 2016 11:36 am

KidGoku>3 wrote:I actually meant Towa and Mira. They were one of the boss villains in Xenoverse weren't they ? Been a while since I played it but they had a good dynamic. Kind of like Beerus-Whis, Champa-Vados. Well I say this because after the latest interview with ''someone from the future (Trunks) and white hair (Mira, Towa) and the whole universe stuff it makes so much sense now looking back at Xenoverse.
The interview didn't talk about an enemy with white hair.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by sintzu » Wed Apr 06, 2016 11:44 am

alakazam^ wrote:The interview didn't talk about an enemy with white hair.
Someone popular on Youtube probably said it did so now everyone's talking about it.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta » Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:07 pm

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KidGoku>3 wrote:I actually meant Towa and Mira. They were one of the boss villains in Xenoverse weren't they ? Been a while since I played it but they had a good dynamic. Kind of like Beerus-Whis, Champa-Vados. Well I say this because after the latest interview with ''someone from the future (Trunks) and white hair (Mira, Towa) and the whole universe stuff it makes so much sense now looking back at Xenoverse.
The interview didn't talk about an enemy with white hair.

It said them having white hair in the new ssjgod form would clash with the new enemy, meaning either they have white hair as well or would be very white.....meaning Frieza? Nope. I hoping we get some new villain personally and new form.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by UpFromTheSkies » Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:10 pm

I wouldn't mind if future Trunks returns, I just hope it has nothing at all to do with Xenoverse.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Khin » Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:12 pm

UpFromTheSkies wrote:I wouldn't mind if future Trunks returns, I just hope it has nothing at all to do with Xenoverse.
Why ? I really like the idea of Time Patrol,Time Kaioshin etc.It would be nice if they make it "canon".
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by UpFromTheSkies » Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:12 pm

LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:
alakazam^ wrote:
KidGoku>3 wrote:I actually meant Towa and Mira. They were one of the boss villains in Xenoverse weren't they ? Been a while since I played it but they had a good dynamic. Kind of like Beerus-Whis, Champa-Vados. Well I say this because after the latest interview with ''someone from the future (Trunks) and white hair (Mira, Towa) and the whole universe stuff it makes so much sense now looking back at Xenoverse.
The interview didn't talk about an enemy with white hair.

It said them having white hair in the new ssjgod form would clash with the new enemy, meaning either they have white hair as well or would be very white.....meaning Frieza? Nope. I hoping we get some new villain personally and new form.
I didn't see anything in the interview about white hair or a new enemy. What interview did you read?

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by UpFromTheSkies » Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:14 pm

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UpFromTheSkies wrote:I wouldn't mind if future Trunks returns, I just hope it has nothing at all to do with Xenoverse.
Why ? I really like the idea of Time Patrol,Time Kaioshin etc.It would be nice if they make it "canon".
Because I want something new from Toriyama, not a rehash of mediocre material produced for a video game.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by VegettoEX » Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:20 pm

UpFromTheSkies wrote:I didn't see anything in the interview about white hair or a new enemy. What interview did you read?
There are two interviews: the one in the book, and an extra one on the V-Jump website. We have translated both. The white/enemy quote comes from the website version:
Web Interview wrote:In Battle of Gods it was red, so I figured for Revival of “F” I should go with blue. That’s all (laughs). Well, actually I was thinking about having it be white, but then it would color-clash with the “next enemy”… so I figured I should save it for another occasion (laughs).
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by alakazam^ » Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:22 pm

LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:It said them having white hair in the new ssjgod form would clash with the new enemy, meaning either they have white hair as well or would be very white.....meaning Frieza? Nope. I hoping we get some new villain personally and new form.
There was only one enemy in Fukkatsu no F that was mostly white which would clash with the new transformation debuting in it that was supposed to be white but ended up blue due to the fact.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by saunasolmu » Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:24 pm

Yeah, I assume he's talking about Freeza.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by sangofe » Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:29 pm

I'm confused. Is the interview linked on the main page the full interview, manga and internet?

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:32 pm

It's entirely possible he's talking about Freeza. That feels like a safer line of thought than a random enemy tanget at this point. Though Toriyama didn't just draw the characters for Resurrection "F", he wrote the actual script, too. He knew that there wouldn't really be any clash, because both fighters transform back to back. If Freeza was indeed who he is talking about, he worded it odd (and Toyotaro reacted odd, too).

I dunno. It doesn't really matter to me either way. We're getting whatever we're getting with Super, regardless of this interview and the interpretation.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by VegettoEX » Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:34 pm

sangofe wrote:I'm confused. Is the interview linked on the main page the full interview, manga and internet?
Yes, we posted full translations of both the web version and the full version. Every time I post an interview, someone invariably says "I can't find the interview." This time around, I even added "READ THE FULL INTERVIEW" buttons in the update. Genuine question: what else can I do to make it more clear that there are new interviews, we translated them, and they're linked right there for viewing? We're clearly failing, and I can't figure out what the disconnect is.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by sangofe » Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:44 pm

VegettoEX wrote:
sangofe wrote:I'm confused. Is the interview linked on the main page the full interview, manga and internet?
Yes, we posted full translations of both the web version and the full version. Every time I post an interview, someone invariably says "I can't find the interview." This time around, I even added "READ THE FULL INTERVIEW" buttons in the update. Genuine question: what else can I do to make it more clear that there are new interviews, we translated them, and they're linked right there for viewing? We're clearly failing, and I can't figure out what the disconnect is.
I was confused due to it not really being longer than what i already read. The full interview could also have meant the full interview from the manga, online... But thanks for clearing that up. Maybe you could have written " read the full manga and online combined interview "?
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Ajay » Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:59 pm

I feel like Kanzenshuu suffers from having so much content, and so much different content, that it's all spaced out over so many different parts of the website. Unless it's clear as day on the main page, it's a bit of a treasure hunt to find a lot of stuff. For example, the Kanji Symbol Guide is in the Tidbits section. The Person Pronouns Mini-Guide is there, too. I get that they're not really fleshed out like the rest of your guides, but it's one of those weird things that makes finding stuff hard. There's quite a lot of examples like that, and it kinda drives me a little crazy sometimes!

While the filters at the top and side of the page are nice, it's another example of everything being thrown into tabs. It's neater, but it's less obvious to some people, I imagine. There's a lot of space on that right hand side, so spreading it out probably isn't a bad idea. You used to do it back in 2012, and I think it looked really nice. It's a such an easy way for people to see new content, since it's also backed up by a convenient image, too. Readers are lazy, but if they see a recognisable cover or person, they'll jump straight to it.

The translation archive itself is very overwhelming. It's literally a giant block of text for pages and pages. I feel like grouping interviews together better, alongside using the images from the actual interviews as thumbnails, would really help neaten things up for the same reason as above.

On a similar note, I really dislike the main's new design from a readability perspective. Having the body text bolded by default is really unpleasant to look at, and I feel that the large gap between each article doesn't really do a good enough job of breaking things up. It's another case of everything feeling way too overwhelming. The old layout did a great job of breaking up each bit of content. I'd love for something like that to return in this new format.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by VegettoEX » Wed Apr 06, 2016 1:29 pm

Ajay wrote:I feel like Kanzenshuu suffers from having so much content
Tell me about it.
Ajay wrote:Having the body text bolded by default is really unpleasant to look at
Huh. That... shouldn't be the case. I know a guy that can look into that.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Tyro » Wed Apr 06, 2016 1:35 pm

VegettoEX wrote:
Ajay wrote:Having the body text bolded by default is really unpleasant to look at
Huh. That... shouldn't be the case. I know a guy that can look into that.
It's not bolded for me either.

I think Kanzenshuu does a good job of letting people know about news and content updates, but I regularly check the front page and read all the updates. So... I dunno. I will say that I miss the old old design quite a bit. It's nice seeing your guys' images next to the content you post, giving it a more personal touch (this info came from Mike, this info came from Heath, etc), but I'd trade it to have the colored circles back.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Ajay » Wed Apr 06, 2016 1:37 pm

VegettoEX wrote:
Ajay wrote:Having the body text bolded by default is really unpleasant to look at
Huh. That... shouldn't be the case. I know a guy that can look into that.
Oh, right. That's peculiar.

For troubleshooting purposes, I'm running Google Chrome Version 50.0.2661.57 beta-m (64-bit). I'm also on Windows 10.

Displays as intended in the latest version of Internet Explorer and Firefox. I guess it's a Chrome thing, then.
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Wed Apr 06, 2016 1:56 pm

Ajay wrote:Oh, right. That's peculiar.

For troubleshooting purposes, I'm running Google Chrome Version 50.0.2661.57 beta-m (64-bit). I'm also on Windows 10.

Displays as intended in the latest version of Internet Explorer and Firefox. I guess it's a Chrome thing, then.
Seems like an Ajay thing. I'm running Chrome as well, and it's not bolding the text for me. I'm not on Windows 10 though because my computer doesn't meet the specs, so maybe that's the difference. I dunno.
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Post by Ajay » Wed Apr 06, 2016 2:00 pm

What version are you running, though? Could be a beta issue.
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